100 Games Komodo Dragon set 2850 Vs Pharaon ended 49 to 51

[Chessqueen]

Ths is what Mr. Kaufman wrote in a previous post. " I ran a test match (one thread, Rapid 15' + 10") of Dragon 3 with elo set to 2850 vs. Pharaon 3.5.1 (which is 2613 CCRL Rapid on one thread). After 400 games, Pharaon leads by 39 elo, which suggests that Dragon 3 elo 2850 is about 2574 CCRL Rapid. But although I think the elo ratings for Dragon 3 (above 2000 at least) are reasonably accurate for Rapid by FIDE scale, there is a lot of evidence that they are tougher for humans to play against than normal (non-NNUE) engines that score 50% against them. So this test doesn't mean that a 2574 CCRL Rapid engine would be even with Nakamura, although it probably does mean that my 2700 estimate was too high, maybe 2650 CCRL would be about right for an even match with Nakamura. So at these super-GM levels a rough guide for Rapid is that CCRL = FIDE - 200. However at lower levels the gap grows, maybe 2000 CCRL is like FIDE 2300 for example. At really low levels it shrinks again, maybe 1000 CCRL is no better than 1000 FIDE, not much data on this though"

I just finished testing Komodo Dragon set to Elo 2850 Vs Pharaon 3.5.1 both using i thread or 1 core, and it ended 51 to 49 in favor of Pharaon, I did NOT tested them for 500 games since Mr. Kaufman already tested them for another 400 games. It seems clear to me that CRRL rated engines at 15/10 if you add 240 Elo it would give you the estimated FIDE rating. Therefore, If you want to get any idea of any CCRL engines playing close to T/C 15/10 what their estimated FIDE rating is simply add 240 Elo. Here is the last game game 100 between these two close gladiators.

[pgn][Event "Testing.-2858"]
[Site "DESKTOP-OFQ3C0P"]
[Date "2022.05.27"]
[Round "100"]
[White "Pharaon 3.5.1"]
[Black "Dragon-2.6.1-64bit-avx2"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[BlackElo "2850"]
[ECO "D26"]
[Opening "QGA"]
[Time "05:37:26"]
[Variation "Classical, Furman, 6...a6"]
[WhiteElo "2850"]
[TimeControl "900+10"]
[Termination "adjudication"]
[PlyCount "138"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]

1. d4 d5 {(d7-d5 c2-c4 e7-e6 Ng1-f3 Ng8-f6 g2-g3 a7-a5 Bf1-g2 Bf8-b4+
Nb1-c3 d5xc4 O-O Nb8-d7 Nf3-d2 Nd7-b6) -0.26/13} 2. Nf3 Nf6 {(Ng8-f6 c2-c4
e7-e6) -0.31/11} 3. c4 dxc4 {(d5xc4 g2-g3 c7-c5 Bf1-g2 e7-e6 O-O Nb8-c6
d4xc5 Qd8xd1) -0.18/10} 4. e3 c5 {(c7-c5 Bf1xc4 e7-e6 O-O a7-a6 d4xc5
Qd8xd1 Rf1xd1 Bf8xc5 b2-b3 O-O Bc1-b2 b7-b5) -0.43/11} 5. Bxc4 e6 {(e7-e6
O-O Nb8-c6 d4xc5 Qd8xd1 Rf1xd1 Bf8xc5 Bc1-d2 a7-a6 h2-h3 Bc5-e7 Bc4-f1 O-O)
-0.36/12} 6. Qe2 a6 {(a7-a6 O-O b7-b5 Bc4-b3 Bc8-b7 a2-a4 Nb8-d7 a4xb5
a6xb5 Ra1xa8) -0.19/9} 7. dxc5 Bxc5 {(Bf8xc5 Bc4-d3) +0.10/11} 8. e4 Nc6
{(Nb8-c6 O-O b7-b5 Bc4-d3 Nc6-b4 Rf1-d1 Nb4xd3 Rd1xd3 Qd8-b6 Bc1-e3)
+0.37/11} 9. O-O b5 {(b7-b5 e4-e5 Nf6-d7 Bc4-d3 Bc8-b7 Nb1-c3 Nc6-d4 Nf3xd4
Bc5xd4 Bc1-f4 Qd8-h4 Bd3-e4 Qh4xf4 Be4xb7) +0.35/11} 10. Bb3 Nd4 {(Nc6-d4
Nf3xd4 Qd8xd4) +0.12/11} 11. Nxd4 Qxd4 {(Qd8xd4 Bc1-e3 Qd4xe4 Nb1-c3 Qe4-c6
Be3xc5 Qc6xc5 Rf1-c1 O-O Qe2-f3 Ra8-b8 Nc3-e4) +0.32/11} 12. Nc3 {(Nb1-c3
Qd4-e5 Bc1-e3 Bc5xe3 Qe2xe3 O-O Ra1-c1 Bc8-b7 f2-f4 Qe5-h5 Bb3-d1 Qh5-h4
Bd1-f3 Ra8-d8 Rf1-d1) +0.19/14 77} Qe5 {(Qd4-e5 Bc1-e3 Bc5xe3 Qe2xe3 Nf6-g4
Qe3-g3 Qe5xg3 h2xg3 Bc8-b7 Rf1-c1 Ng4-e5 f2-f3 Ra8-c8) +0.30/12} 13. Be3
{(Bc1-e3 Bc5xe3 Qe2xe3 Nf6-g4 Qe3-g3 Qe5xg3 h2xg3 Bc8-b7 Ra1-d1 O-O Bb3-c2
Ra8-c8 Rd1-d7 Bb7-c6 Rd7-a7) +0.13/13 57} Bxe3 {(Bc5xe3 Qe2xe3 Nf6-g4
Qe3-g3 Qe5xg3 h2xg3 Ke8-e7 Nc3-d1 Ng4-e5 f2-f4 Ne5-d3 Nd1-f2 Nd3xb2 Ra1-b1)
+0.57/13} 14. Qxe3 {(Qe2xe3 Nf6-g4 Qe3-g3 Qe5xg3 h2xg3 Bc8-b7 f2-f3 Ng4-e5
Ra1-d1 Ra8-d8 Rd1xd8+ Ke8xd8 Rf1-d1+ Kd8-c7 Kg1-f2 Rh8-c8 f3-f4 Ne5-g4+
Kf2-e2) +0.18/14 39} Ng4 {(Nf6-g4 Qe3-g3 Qe5xg3 h2xg3 Ke8-e7 Ra1-c1 Bc8-d7
f2-f3 Ng4-e5 Rf1-d1 Rh8-c8 f3-f4 Ne5-c4 Bb3xc4) +0.44/11} 15. Qh3 {(Qe3-h3
Ng4-f6 Rf1-e1 O-O Qh3-g3 Qe5xg3 h2xg3 Bc8-b7 e4-e5 Nf6-d5 Bb3xd5 e6xd5
Re1-d1 Ra8-d8 Ra1-c1) +0.18/13 40} h5 {(h7-h5 Rf1-d1 Bc8-b7) +0.47/12} 16.
Qg3 {(Qh3-g3 Qe5xg3 h2xg3 Bc8-b7 f2-f3 Ng4-e5 Ra1-d1 Ra8-d8 Rd1xd8+ Ke8xd8
Rf1-d1+ Kd8-c7 Kg1-f1 b5-b4 Nc3-e2 Rh8-d8 Rd1xd8 Kc7xd8) +0.12/12 35} Qxg3
{(Qe5xg3 h2xg3 Ke8-e7 Rf1-d1 g7-g5 Rd1-d2 h5-h4 g3xh4 Rh8xh4 f2-f3 Ng4-e5)
+0.57/11} 17. hxg3 {(h2xg3 Bc8-b7 f2-f3 Ng4-e5 Rf1-d1 Ra8-d8 Rd1xd8+ Ke8xd8
Ra1-d1+ Kd8-c7 Kg1-f2 h5-h4 a2-a3 h4xg3+ Kf2xg3 Rh8-d8 Rd1xd8 Kc7xd8 a3-a4
b5-b4) +0.04/15 37} Ke7 {(Ke8-e7 Rf1-d1 Bc8-d7) +0.55/12} 18. f3 {(f2-f3
Ng4-e5 a2-a4 b5-b4 Nc3-e2 Bc8-b7 Rf1-c1 Ra8-c8 Rc1xc8 Rh8xc8 Ra1-d1 g7-g5
Kg1-f2 Ne5-c4 Bb3xc4 Rc8xc4) +0.10/14 36} Ne5 {(Ng4-e5 Rf1-d1 Bc8-d7)
+0.62/13} 19. a4 {(a2-a4 b5-b4 Nc3-e2 Bc8-b7 Ra1-c1 Ra8-c8 Rf1-d1 Rh8-d8
Ne2-f4 g7-g6 Kg1-f1 a6-a5 Kf1-f2 Rc8xc1 Rd1xc1) +0.02/14 35} b4 {(b5-b4
Nc3-e2 Bc8-d7 Rf1-d1 Ra8-c8 Ne2-d4 a6-a5 Ra1-c1 Rc8xc1 Rd1xc1) +0.64/10}
20. Ne2 {(Nc3-e2 a6-a5 Rf1-c1 Bc8-a6 Ne2-f4 Ra8-c8 Rc1xc8 Rh8xc8 Nf4xh5
Rc8-h8 g3-g4 Ne5-d3 Ra1-b1 g7-g6 Nh5-g3 Ba6-b7) -0.08/15 28} a5 {(a6-a5
Ra1-c1 Bc8-a6 Rc1-c7+ Ke7-d6 Rc7-c2 Ra8-c8 Rc2xc8 Rh8xc8) +1.12/11} 21.
Rfc1 {(Rf1-c1 Bc8-a6 Ne2-f4 Ra8-c8 Rc1xc8 Rh8xc8 Nf4xh5 Rc8-c5 g3-g4 Ne5-d3
Ra1-b1 Nd3-c1 Bb3-d1 Ba6-d3 Rb1-a1 g7-g5) -0.09/15 33} Bd7 {(Bc8-d7 f3-f4
Ne5-d3) +0.88/10} 22. Rc2 {(Rc1-c2 Ra8-c8 Rc2-d2 h5-h4 g3xh4 Rh8xh4 Ne2-d4
Ne5-c4 Bb3xc4 Rc8xc4 Nd4-b3 Rh4-h5 g2-g4 Rh5-g5 Kg1-f2 Bd7-c6) +0.07/15 33}
Rhc8 {(Rh8-c8 Ne2-d4 Rc8xc2) +0.84/12} 23. Rd2 {(Rc2-d2 g7-g6 Kg1-f1 Rc8-c5
Ra1-d1 Bd7-c6 Ne2-d4 Ra8-c8 f3-f4 Ne5-g4 Nd4xc6+ Rc5xc6 Rd2-d7+ Ke7-e8
Rd1-d4 Rc6-c1+ Kf1-e2 Rc1-c7 Rd7xc7 Rc8xc7) +0.14/15 28} Nc4 {(Ne5-c4
Bb3xc4 Rc8xc4) +0.70/13} 24. Bxc4 {(Bb3xc4 Rc8xc4 b2-b3 Rc4-c7 Ne2-f4
Rc7-c5 Ra1-b1 Ra8-c8 Rb1-d1 Bd7-c6) +0.05/16 31} Rxc4 {(Rc8xc4 b2-b3
Rc4-c6) +0.83/12} 25. b3 {(b2-b3 Rc4-c5 Ra1-d1 Bd7-c6 Ne2-d4 Ra8-c8 Kg1-f2
Rc5-c3 Rd2-d3 Rc3xd3 Rd1xd3 Bc6-b7 Rd3-d2 Rc8-c3 Rd2-d1 g7-g5 e4-e5)
0.00/16 30} Rc6 {(Rc4-c6 Ra1-d1 Bd7-e8 Rd1-c1 Rc6xc1+ Ne2xc1 Ra8-c8 Nc1-e2
g7-g5 Kg1-f2 Be8-d7 Kf2-e3 e6-e5) +1.04/12} 26. Rad1 {(Ra1-d1 Ra8-a7 Ne2-f4
g7-g6 Nf4-d3 Rc6-c3 Nd3-e5 Bd7-e8 Rd2-d3 f7-f6 Ne5-c4 Rc3xc4 b3xc4 Be8xa4
Rd1-d2) +0.04/14 20} Be8 {(Bd7-e8 Kg1-f2 Ra8-c8) +1.26/13} 27. Kf2 {(Kg1-f2
Ra8-c8 Ne2-d4 Rc6-c3 Rd2-d3 g7-g6 Nd4-e2 Rc3xd3 Rd1xd3 Rc8-c2 Kf2-e3 Rc2-b2
f3-f4 Be8-c6 Ne2-d4 Bc6-b7) +0.02/15 24} Rac8 {(Ra8-c8 Kf2-e3 g7-g6 Ke3-f2
Rc6-c5 Kf2-e3 g6-g5 Ne2-d4 g5-g4 f3xg4 Rc5-c3+ Ke3-f4) +1.12/12} 28. Nd4
{(Ne2-d4 Rc6-c3 Rd2-d3 g7-g6 e4-e5 Be8-c6 Nd4xc6+ Rc8xc6 Kf2-e2 Rc3xd3
Rd1xd3 f7-f6 e5xf6+ Ke7xf6 Ke2-e3 Kf6-f5 Ke3-d2 e6-e5 Rd3-d5 Rc6-c3)
-0.02/15 29} Rc3 {(Rc6-c3 Rd2-d3 f7-f6) +1.29/11} 29. Rb1 {(Rd1-b1 Be8-c6
Nd4-e2 Rc3-c5 Rb1-d1 g7-g6 Ne2-f4 Rc5-c3 Rd2-b2 Ke7-f8 Nf4-e2 Rc3-c5 Rb2-d2
e6-e5) -0.05/14 57} f6 {(f7-f6 Nd4-e2 Rc3-c2 Kf2-e1 e6-e5 Ke1-d1 Rc2xd2+
Kd1xd2 Be8-f7 Rb1-c1 Rc8-d8+ Kd2-c2) +1.22/10} 30. Rdd1 {(Rd2-d1 g7-g6
Nd4-e2 Rc3-c2 Kf2-f1 e6-e5 Rd1-d5 Rc8-c5 Rd5-d3 Be8-f7 Rb1-d1 Bf7-e6 f3-f4
Ke7-f7) -0.32/14 20} g6 {(g7-g6 Nd4-e2 Rc3-c2 Rd1-c1 e6-e5 Rc1xc2 Rc8xc2
Rb1-c1 Rc2-b2 Rc1-c5 Be8-f7 Rc5xa5 Bf7xb3 Kf2-e3) +1.79/12} 31. Ne2
{(Nd4-e2 Rc3-c2 Kf2-e3 Be8-f7 Rd1-d2 Rc2xd2 Ke3xd2 e6-e5 f3-f4 Bf7-e6
Rb1-b2 Be6-g4 Kd2-e3 Bg4xe2 Ke3xe2 Rc8-c3 Ke2-f2) -0.40/15 21} Rc2 {(Rc3-c2
Kf2-e1 Be8-f7) +2.00/12} 32. Kf1 {(Kf2-f1 Rc8-c5 Ne2-f4 Rc2-a2 Rd1-c1
Rc5-c3 Nf4-e2 Rc3xc1+ Ne2xc1 Ra2-c2 Nc1-e2 e6-e5 Kf1-e1 Be8-f7 Ke1-d1
Rc2-a2 Kd1-e1) -0.47/16 26} g5 {(g6-g5 Ne2-d4 Rc2-a2) +1.78/12} 33. Rd3
{(Rd1-d3 Be8-f7 Ne2-d4 Rc2-a2 Rb1-d1 Ke7-f8 f3-f4 e6-e5 Nd4-f5 Bf7-e6 f4xg5
f6xg5 Rd3-f3 g5-g4 Rf3-d3 Rc8-c2 Rd3-d8+ Kf8-f7) -0.46/15 25} g4 {(g5-g4
Ne2-d4 Rc2-a2 Rb1-d1 Rc8-c3 Rd1-d2 Ra2-a1+ Kf1-f2 Ra1-h1) +1.58/9} 34. Nd4
{(Ne2-d4 Rc2-a2 Rb1-d1 Be8-g6 Nd4-b5 f6-f5 e4xf5 Bg6xf5 Rd3-d7+ Ke7-f6
Nb5-d4 g4xf3 g2xf3 Rc8-g8 Nd4xf5 Kf6xf5 Rd7-f7+ Kf5-e5 Rd1-e1+ Ke5-d4)
-0.26/14 17} Ra2 {(Rc2-a2 Rb1-d1 Rc8-c3 Rd3-d2 Ra2xd2 Rd1xd2 e6-e5 Nd4-f5+
Ke7-f7 Rd2-d5 Rc3xb3 Rd5xa5 Rb3-a3 Ra5-a7+ Kf7-f8) +1.56/11} 35. Rbd1
{(Rb1-d1 Be8-f7 f3-f4 Bf7-g6 f4-f5 Bg6-f7 f5xe6 Bf7xe6 Rd3-e3 Rc8-c5 Re3-e2
Ra2xe2 Kf1xe2 Rc5-c3 Nd4xe6 Ke7xe6 Rd1-d3) -0.32/14 18} Rc3 {(Rc8-c3 Rd3-d2
Ra2xd2 Rd1xd2 Be8-d7 Kf1-e2 g4xf3+ g2xf3) +2.05/11} 36. Rxc3 {(Rd3xc3 b4xc3
Rd1-c1 Ra2-d2 Nd4-e2 c3-c2 Kf1-f2 Rd2-d3 Rc1xc2 Rd3xb3 Rc2-c7+ Ke7-d6
Rc7-a7 Be8xa4 Ra7xa5 Ba4-b5 Ne2-f4 Rb3-b2+ Kf2-e3 Rb2-b3+ Ke3-d4) +0.23/16
24} bxc3 {(b4xc3 Rd1-c1 Ra2-d2 Nd4-c2 h5-h4 g3xh4 g4xf3 g2xf3 Be8-h5 Nc2-e3
Bh5xf3 Rc1xc3) +0.53/10} 37. Rc1 {(Rd1-c1 Ra2-d2 Nd4-e2 c3-c2 Kf1-f2 Rd2-d3
Rc1xc2 Rd3xb3 Rc2-c7+ Be8-d7 Rc7-a7 Rb3-a3 Ra7xa5 e6-e5 f3-f4 Ra3xa4 Ra5xa4
Bd7xa4 Kf2-e3 Ke7-e6) +0.19/17 24} Rd2 {(Ra2-d2 Nd4-c2 Ke7-d6) +0.33/9} 38.
Ne2 {(Nd4-e2 c3-c2 Kf1-f2 Rd2-d3 Rc1xc2 Rd3xb3 Rc2-c5 Be8xa4 Rc5xa5 Ba4-b5
Ne2-d4 Rb3-b2+ Kf2-g1 Bb5-e8 e4-e5 f6xe5 Ra5xe5 Be8-f7 f3-f4) +0.19/17 23}
c2 {(c3-c2 Kf1-e1 Rd2-d3 Rc1xc2 Rd3xb3 Rc2-c5 g4xf3 g2xf3 Rb3xf3 Rc5xa5
Rf3-e3 Ra5-a7+ Be8-d7 a4-a5 Re3xe4) +0.77/11} 39. Kf2 {(Kf1-f2 Rd2-d3
Rc1xc2 Rd3xb3 Rc2-c5 Be8xa4 Rc5xa5 Ba4-b5 Ne2-f4 Rb3-b2+ Kf2-e1 Bb5-e8
e4-e5 f6xe5 Ra5xe5 Be8-f7 Re5-e2 Rb2xe2+ Ke1xe2 e6-e5 Nf4-d3) +0.19/18 23}
Rd3 {(Rd2-d3 Rc1xc2 Rd3xb3 Rc2-c5 e6-e5 Rc5xa5 Rb3-a3 Ra5-a7+ Ke7-d6 Ra7-h7
g4xf3 g2xf3 Ra3xa4) +0.09/9} 40. Rxc2 {(Rc1xc2 Rd3xb3 Rc2-c5 Rb3-a3 Rc5xa5
Ra3xa4 Ra5xa4 Be8xa4 Ne2-f4 Ba4-e8 Kf2-e3 Ke7-d6 Nf4-d3 e6-e5 Nd3-f2 Be8-d7
f3-f4 Bd7-e6 Nf2-d3) +0.12/17 16} Rxb3 {(Rd3xb3 Rc2-c5 e6-e5 Rc5xa5 Rb3-a3
Ra5-a7+ Ke7-d6 Ra7-h7 Ra3-a2 Kf2-e3 Ra2xa4 Rh7-h8 Ra4-a3+ Ke3-f2) +0.08/12}
41. Rc5 {(Rc2-c5 Rb3-a3 Rc5xa5 Ra3xa4 Ra5-c5 Ra4-a2 e4-e5 f6xe5 Rc5xe5
Ke7-d6 f3-f4 Be8-g6 Kf2-e3 Ra2-a3+ Ke3-d2 Ra3-d3+ Kd2-e1 Rd3-d5 Re5xd5+
Kd6xd5 Ke1-d2) +0.08/16 22} e5 {(e6-e5 Rc5xa5 Rb3-a3 Ra5-a7+ Ke7-d6 Ra7-h7
Ra3-a2 Kf2-e3 Ra2xa4 Rh7-h6 Kd6-e6 f3-f4 Ra4-a3+ Ke3-f2) +0.09/12} 42. Rxa5
{(Rc5xa5 Rb3-b2 f3-f4 Ke7-d6 Ra5-d5+ Kd6-e6 f4-f5+ Ke6-e7 Rd5-a5 Rb2-a2
Ra5-a7+ Ke7-d6 Ra7-h7 Kd6-c5 Rh7-h6 Ra2xa4 Rh6xf6 Ra4xe4) +0.20/15 22} Ra3
{(Rb3-a3 Ra5-a7+ Ke7-d6 Ra7-a8 Be8xa4 Ra8-a6+ Kd6-e7 Ne2-c1 Ra3-a1 Nc1-d3
g4xf3 g2xf3) +0.07/12} 43. Ra7+ {(Ra5-a7+ Ke7-e6 a4-a5 Be8-b5 Ra7-b7 Bb5xe2
Kf2xe2 Ra3xa5 Rb7-b6+ Ke6-e7 Rb6-b2 Ra5-a3 Rb2-d2 Ke7-e6 Rd2-b2 Ke6-e7)
0.00/15 21} Kd6 {(Ke7-d6 Ra7-h7 Ra3-a2 Kf2-e3 Ra2xa4 Ne2-c3 Ra4-a3 Ke3-d2
g4xf3 g2xf3 Kd6-e6) +0.11/11} 44. Rh7 {(Ra7-h7 Kd6-e6 f3-f4 Ra3-a2 f4-f5+
Ke6-d6 Rh7-h6 Be8xa4 Rh6xf6+ Kd6-c5 Kf2-e1 Ra2-a1+ Ke1-d2 Ra1-a2+ Kd2-e1)
0.00/15 15} Ra2 {(Ra3-a2 Kf2-e3 Ra2xa4 Ne2-c3 Ra4-a3 Ke3-d2 g4xf3 g2xf3
Ra3-b3 Rh7-h8) +0.06/10} 45. Ke1 {(Kf2-e1 Ra2-a3 Rh7-h6 Kd6-e6 Rh6-h8
Be8xa4 Rh8-a8 Ra3-a1+ Ke1-f2 Ra1-a2 Ra8-a6+ Ke6-e7 Ra6-a7+ Ke7-d6 Kf2-e3
Ra2-a3+ Ke3-f2 Ra3-a2) 0.00/16 21} Kc5 {(Kd6-c5 f3xg4 h5xg4) +0.13/10} 46.
Rh8 {(Rh7-h8 Be8xa4 Ne2-c3 Ra2-a1+ Ke1-f2 Ba4-c6 Rh8-c8 Kc5-d6 Rc8-d8+
Kd6-c5 Rd8-c8) 0.00/15 20} Bxa4 {(Be8xa4 Ne2-c3 Ra2xg2 Nc3xa4+ Kc5-d4
Na4-b6 Rg2xg3 f3xg4 h5xg4 Ke1-f2 Rg3-f3+ Kf2-g2) +0.11/10} 47. Nc3 {(Ne2-c3
Ra2-a1+ Ke1-f2 Ba4-c6 Rh8-c8 Kc5-d6 Rc8-d8+ Kd6-e6 Rd8-d2 Ra1-a3 Nc3-d1
Ra3-b3 Rd2-c2 Bc6-a4 Nd1-c3 Ba4-c6 Nc3-d1) 0.00/16 18} Rxg2 {(Ra2xg2 f3xg4
Ba4-c6 g4xh5 Kc5-d4 Rh8-c8 Bc6xe4 Nc3xe4 Kd4xe4 h5-h6 Rg2-h2 Rc8-h8)
+0.17/11} 48. Nxa4+ {(Nc3xa4+ Kc5-d4 f3xg4 h5xg4 Rh8-b8 Rg2xg3 Rb8-b4+
Kd4-e3 Rb4-b3+ Ke3-f4 Rb3xg3 Kf4xg3 Ke1-f1 Kg3-f4 Na4-c5 Kf4-f3 Nc5-d7
Kf3xe4 Nd7xf6+ Ke4-f5 Nf6-d5) +0.12/14 6} Kd4 {(Kc5-d4 Rh8xh5 g4xf3 Na4-b6
Kd4xe4 Rh5-h4+ Ke4-f5 Nb6-c4 Kf5-e6 Nc4-b6 Rg2xg3 Ke1-f2) +0.14/11} 49.
fxg4 {(f3xg4 h5xg4 Rh8-f8 Rg2xg3 Rf8xf6 Rg3-a3 Rf6-a6 Ra3-h3 Ke1-f2 Kd4xe4
Na4-c5+ Ke4-f5 Ra6-b6 Rh3-a3 Rb6-b4 Ra3-c3 Nc5-e4) +0.09/16 20} hxg4
{(h5xg4 Rh8-d8+ Kd4-e3 Ke1-f1 Rg2xg3 Na4-c5 Ke3-f4 Rd8-f8 Rg3-c3 Nc5-d7
Rc3-f3+ Kf1-g2 Kf4xe4 Nd7xf6+ Ke4-f5) +0.06/11} 50. Rb8 {(Rh8-b8 Rg2xg3
Rb8-b4+ Kd4-e3 Rb4-b3+ Ke3-f4 Rb3xg3 Kf4xg3 Ke1-f1 Kg3-f3 Na4-c5 g4-g3
Kf1-g1 g3-g2 Nc5-d7 Kf3xe4 Kg1xg2 f6-f5 Nd7-f6+ Ke4-e3 Nf6-d5+ Ke3-d4
Nd5-f6) +0.04/16 20} Rxg3 {(Rg2xg3 Rb8-b4+ Kd4-e3 Ke1-f1 Ke3-f4 Rb4-b6
Rg3-f3+ Kf1-g2 Kf4xe4 Na4-c5+ Ke4-e3 Nc5-d7 Rf3-f4 Nd7xf6 Rf4-f5) +0.11/11}
51. Rb4+ {(Rb8-b4+ Kd4-e3 Rb4-b3+ Ke3-f4 Rb3xg3 Kf4xg3 Ke1-f1 Kg3-f3 Na4-c5
g4-g3 Kf1-g1 g3-g2 Nc5-b7 Kf3xe4 Kg1xg2 f6-f5 Nb7-d6+ Ke4-f4 Kg2-f1 e5-e4
Nd6-c4 e4-e3 Nc4-d6) +0.04/17 19} Ke3 {(Kd4-e3 Ke1-f1 Ke3-f4 Na4-b6 Rg3-d3
Kf1-e2 Rd3-e3+ Ke2-f1 Re3xe4 Nb6-d5+ Kf4-f5) +0.17/11} 52. Rb3+ {(Rb4-b3+
Ke3-f4) +0.04/18 19} Kf4 {(Ke3-f4 Rb3-b6 Kf4xe4 Rb6xf6 Rg3-f3 Na4-c5+
Ke4-d4 Rf6xf3 g4xf3 Nc5-d7 e5-e4 Ke1-f2 Kd4-c3) +0.14/10} 53. Rxg3 {(Rb3xg3
Kf4xg3 Ke1-f1 Kg3-h2 Na4-c3 g4-g3 Nc3-e2 g3-g2+ Kf1-f2 Kh2-h1 Ne2-g1 Kh1-h2
Ng1-f3+ Kh2-h1 Nf3-g1) 0.00/18 19} Kxg3 {(Kf4xg3 Na4-c3 Kg3-f3 Ke1-f1
Kf3-e3 Nc3-d5+ Ke3xe4 Nd5xf6+ Ke4-f5 Nf6xg4 Kf5xg4 Kf1-e2 e5-e4 Ke2-e3
Kg4-f5 Ke3-d2 Kf5-f6) +0.13/12} 54. Nc3 {(Na4-c3 Kg3-g2 Nc3-d5 g4-g3 Nd5xf6
Kg2-h1 Nf6-h5 g3-g2 Nh5-g3+ Kh1-h2 Ng3-e2 g2-g1Q+ Ne2xg1 Kh2xg1 Ke1-e2
Kg1-g2 Ke2-e3 Kg2-g3 Ke3-e2 Kg3-f4 Ke2-f2 Kf4-g5 Kf2-e3 Kg5-g4 Ke3-e2
Kg4-f4) 0.00/22 16} Kf3 {(Kg3-f3 Ke1-f1 Kf3-e3 Kf1-g2 Ke3-d3 Nc3-d5 Kd3xe4
Nd5xf6+ Ke4-f5 Nf6-d5 e5-e4 Kg2-f2 Kf5-e5 Nd5-c3 Ke5-d4) +0.10/12} 55. Kf1
{(Ke1-f1 Kf3-e3 Kf1-g2 Ke3-d4 Nc3-d5 f6-f5 Nd5-f6 f5-f4 Nf6xg4 Kd4xe4
Kg2-f2 Ke4-f5 Ng4-h6+ Kf5-g6 Nh6-g4 Kg6-f5) 0.00/22 18} g3 {(g4-g3 Kf1-g1
g3-g2 Nc3-d1 Kf3xe4 Kg1xg2 Ke4-f4 Nd1-b2 e5-e4 Kg2-f2 f6-f5 Nb2-c4)
+0.08/11} 56. Kg1 {(Kf1-g1 g3-g2 Nc3-b5 Kf3xe4 Kg1xg2 Ke4-e3 Nb5-d6 e5-e4
Nd6-f5+ Ke3-f4 Nf5-e7 f6-f5 Kg2-f2 e4-e3+ Kf2-e2 Kf4-e4 Ne7-g8 f5-f4
Ng8-f6+ Ke4-f5 Nf6-e8 Kf5-e4 Ne8-f6+) 0.00/21 12} g2 {(g3-g2 Nc3-d5 Kf3xe4
Nd5xf6+ Ke4-f3 Nf6-h7 Kf3-f4 Kg1xg2 e5-e4 Nh7-g5 Kf4xg5 Kg2-f2 Kg5-f4
Kf2-e2 Kf4-g4 Ke2-e3) +0.05/12} 57. Nb5 {(Nc3-b5 Kf3xe4 Kg1xg2 Ke4-e3
Nb5-d6 e5-e4 Nd6-f5+ Ke3-f4 Nf5-e7 f6-f5 Kg2-f2 Kf4-g5 Kf2-e2 f5-f4 Ne7-c6
Kg5-f6 Ke2-f2 Kf6-e6 Nc6-d4+ Ke6-d5 Nd4-e2 Kd5-e5 Ne2xf4 Ke5xf4 Kf2-e2
Kf4-g3 Ke2-e3) 0.00/23 18} Kxe4 {(Kf3xe4 Kg1xg2 f6-f5 Nb5-d6+ Ke4-d5 Nd6xf5
Kd5-e6 Nf5-e3 Ke6-e7 Ne3-d5+ Ke7-f7) +0.11/9} 58. Kxg2 {(Kg1xg2 Ke4-e3
Nb5-d6 e5-e4 Nd6-f5+ Ke3-f4 Nf5-e7 f6-f5 Kg2-f2 Kf4-g5 Kf2-e2 f5-f4 Ne7-c6
Kg5-f6 Ke2-f2 Kf6-e6 Nc6-d4+ Ke6-d5 Nd4-e2 Kd5-e5 Ne2xf4 Ke5xf4 Kf2-e2
Kf4-g3 Ke2-e3 Kg3-h2 Ke3xe4) 0.00/22 17} Kd3 {(Ke4-d3 Nb5-c7 e5-e4 Nc7-d5
f6-f5 Kg2-f2 e4-e3+ Nd5xe3 f5-f4 Ne3-g2 Kd3-e4) +0.10/11} 59. Nd6 {(Nb5-d6
Kd3-e3 Kg2-f1 Ke3-d3 Kf1-f2 e5-e4 Kf2-e1 Kd3-e3 Ke1-d1 Ke3-d4 Kd1-e2 Kd4-d5
Nd6-f5 Kd5-e5 Nf5-e7 f6-f5) +0.03/16 14} e4 {(e5-e4 Kg2-f2 Kd3-d4 Nd6-f5+
Kd4-d5 Nf5-e3+ Kd5-e5 Kf2-g3 f6-f5 Ne3-d1 f5-f4+ Kg3-g2) +0.06/9} 60. Kf2
{(Kg2-f2 Kd3-d4 Nd6-f5+ Kd4-e5 Nf5-h4 Ke5-f4 Nh4-g2+ Kf4-e5 Kf2-e3 f6-f5
Ng2-f4 Ke5-f6 Ke3-d4 Kf6-g5 Nf4-d5 Kg5-g4 Kd4-e3 Kg4-g5 Nd5-f4) +0.15/17
17} Kd4 {(Kd3-d4 Nd6-f5+ Kd4-e5 Nf5-e3 f6-f5 Ne3-d1 Ke5-d4 Kf2-g3 e4-e3
Kg3-f3 f5-f4 Nd1-b2 Kd4-d5 Kf3xf4) +0.08/12} 61. Nf5+ {(Nd6-f5+ Kd4-e5
Nf5-h4 f6-f5 Nh4-g6+ Ke5-f6 Ng6-f4 Kf6-g5 Kf2-e3 Kg5-h4) +0.05/17 17} Ke5
{(Kd4-e5 Nf5-e7 Ke5-e6 Ne7-g6 Ke6-f5 Ng6-e7+ Kf5-f4 Ne7-g6+ Kf4-g4 Ng6-e7
f6-f5 Kf2-e3 Kg4-g5 Ne7-d5) +0.03/12} 62. Nh4 {(Nf5-h4 f6-f5 Nh4-g6+ Ke5-f6
Ng6-f4 Kf6-g5 Kf2-e3 Kg5-h4 Nf4-e2 Kh4-g4 Ne2-d4 f5-f4+ Ke3xe4 f4-f3 Nd4-c2
f3-f2 Nc2-e3+ Kg4-g3 Ne3-f1+ Kg3-g2 Nf1-e3+ Kg2-g3) 0.00/22 16} Kf4
{(Ke5-f4 Nh4-g2+ Kf4-g5 Kf2-e3 Kg5-f5 Ng2-h4+ Kf5-e6 Ke3xe4 f6-f5+ Nh4xf5)
0.00/11} 63. Ng2+ {(Nh4-g2+ Kf4-g4 Kf2-e2 f6-f5 Ke2-e3 Kg4-g3 Ng2-f4 Kg3-h4
Nf4-e2 Kh4-g4 Ne2-d4 f5-f4+ Ke3xe4 f4-f3 Nd4-c2 f3-f2 Nc2-e3+ Kg4-g3
Ne3-f1+ Kg3-g2 Nf1-e3+ Kg2-g3) 0.00/23 16} Kg5 {(Kf4-g5 Kf2-e3 Kg5-f5
Ng2-h4+ Kf5-e6 Ke3xe4 f6-f5+ Nh4xf5) 0.00/16} 64. Ke3 {(Kf2-e3 f6-f5 Ng2-f4
Kg5-h4 Nf4-e2 Kh4-g4 Ne2-d4 f5-f4+ Ke3xe4 f4-f3 Nd4-c2 f3-f2 Nc2-e3+ Kg4-g3
Ne3-f1+ Kg3-g2 Nf1-e3+ Kg2-g3) 0.00/23 14} Kf5 {(Kg5-f5 Ng2-h4+ Kf5-e6
Ke3xe4 f6-f5+ Nh4xf5) 0.00/18} 65. Kd4 {(Ke3-d4 Kf5-g4 Kd4xe4 f6-f5+ Ke4-e3
f5-f4+ Ke3-f2 f4-f3 Ng2-e3+ Kg4-f4 Ne3-c2 Kf4-f5 Nc2-b4 Kf5-e4 Nb4-a6
Ke4-d5 Na6-c7+ Kd5-d6 Nc7-e8+ Kd6-e7 Ne8-g7 Ke7-f6) +0.34/17 12} e3 {(e4-e3
Kd4xe3 Kf5-e5 Ng2-e1 Ke5-f5 Ne1-g2) 0.00/14} 66. Kd3 {(Kd4-d3 e3-e2 Kd3xe2
Kf5-e4 Ng2-e3 f6-f5 Ne3-f1 Ke4-f4 Ke2-d3 Kf4-f3 Nf1-e3 f5-f4 Ne3-d5 Kf3-g4
Kd3-c4 f4-f3) +0.39/16 12} e2 {(e3-e2 Kd3-e3 e2-e1Q+ Ng2xe1 Kf5-g4 Ke3-e4
f6-f5+ Ke4-e5 Kg4-g5 Ne1-f3+ Kg5-g4 Nf3-e1) 0.00/12} 67. Kxe2 {(Kd3xe2
Kf5-e4 Ng2-h4 f6-f5 Nh4-f3 Ke4-f4 Ke2-f2 Kf4-g4 Nf3-e5+ Kg4-f4 Ne5-c4
Kf4-e4 Kf2-e2 Ke4-f4 Nc4-d2 Kf4-g4 Nd2-f3) +0.40/16 8} Ke4 {(Kf5-e4 Ng2-e3
f6-f5 Ne3xf5) 0.00/16} 68. Nh4 {(Ng2-h4 f6-f5 Nh4-f3 Ke4-f4 Ke2-f2 Kf4-g4
Nf3-e5+ Kg4-f4 Ne5-d3+ Kf4-e4 Kf2-e2 Ke4-d4 Nd3-f2 Kd4-d5 Ke2-f3 Kd5-e5
Nf2-d3+ Ke5-d4 Nd3-f4 Kd4-c4) +0.41/18 16} Kd4 {(Ke4-d4 Ke2-f3 f6-f5
Nh4xf5+) 0.00/17} 69. Kf3 {(Ke2-f3 f6-f5 Kf3-f4 Kd4-c4 Nh4-g2 Kc4-d5 Ng2-e1
Kd5-e6 Ne1-c2 Ke6-d5 Nc2-e3+ Kd5-d4 Ne3-f1 Kd4-c4 Nf1-d2+ Kc4-d4 Nd2-f3+
Kd4-c5 Nf3-e1 Kc5-c6 Ne1-f3) +0.47/18 13} f5 {(f6-f5 Nh4xf5+) 0.00/22 User
Adjudication} 1/2-1/2[/pgn]

[Chessqueen]

Uri can you make Movei 00.8.438 available again, I can NOT find the direct Link. I would like to test it against Komodo Dragon set Elo = 2860 at T/C15/10. I believe hat they would come out almost with even score. Uri if you test it for the first 300, games I will test it for the last 200 games, and post the rest here.

This is what Mr. Kaufman wrote in a previous post. " I ran a test match (one thread, Rapid 15' + 10") of Dragon 3 with elo set to 2850 vs. Pharaon 3.5.1 (which is 2613 CCRL Rapid on one thread). After 400 games, Pharaon leads by 39 elo, which suggests that Dragon 3 elo 2850 is about 2574 CCRL Rapid. But although I think the elo ratings for Dragon 3 (above 2000 at least) are reasonably accurate for Rapid by FIDE scale, there is a lot of evidence that they are tougher for humans to play against than normal (non-NNUE) engines that score 50% against them. So this test doesn't mean that a 2574 CCRL Rapid engine would be even with Nakamura, although it probably does mean that my 2700 estimate was too high, maybe 2650 CCRL would be about right for an even match with Nakamura. So at these super-GM levels a rough guide for Rapid is that CCRL = FIDE - 200. However at lower levels the gap grows, maybe 2000 CCRL is like FIDE 2300 for example. At really low levels it shrinks again, maybe 1000 CCRL is no better than 1000 FIDE, not much data on this though"

I just finished testing Komodo Dragon set to Elo 2850 Vs Pharaon 3.5.1 both using i thread or 1 core, and it ended 51 to 49 in favor of Pharaon, I did NOT tested them for 500 games since Mr. Kaufman already tested them for another 400 games. It seems clear to me that CRRL rated engines at 15/10 if you add 240 Elo it would give you the estimated FIDE rating. Therefore, If you want to get any idea of any CCRL engines playing close to T/C 15/10 what their estimated FIDE rating is simply add 240 Elo

165‑166 Movei 00.8.438 (10 10 10) 2666 +11 −11 47.8% +12.9 36.9% 2929