Black to move, can White win without using EGTB ?

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Black to move, can White win without using EGTB ?

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It is Black to Move, which engine can win the fastest with White without using EGTB, and in how many Moves ? :shock:
[fen]8/1r6/8/6n1/5k2/1b6/3K3N/7Q b - - 0 1 ]/fen]
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Re: Black to move, can White win without using EGTB ?

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Chessqueen wrote: Fri Jul 15, 2022 1:35 am It is Black to Move, which engine can win the fastest with White without using EGTB, and in how many Moves ? :shock:
Note: Only respond if the engine that you chose can find mate with White in less than 520 Moves :roll:
[fen]8/1r6/8/6n1/5k2/1b6/3K3N/7Q b - - 0 1 ]/fen]
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Re: Black to move, can White win without using EGTB ?

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In reality this is an experiment that I have going on, this position with 7-pieces EGTB takes 517 moves for White to mate, but since Top Engines are so close of finding perfect moves without EGTB I was wondering if either Komodo Dragon or Stockfish 15 can find MAte with White in no more than 520 or even 530 moves. his ending is in progress to find out.

[pgn][Event "No7-pieces EGTB"]
[Site "DESKTOP-OFQ3C0P"]
[Date "2022.07.14"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Dragon-2.6.1-64bit-avx2"]
[Black "Stockfish-15-64bit-avx2"]
[Result "*"]
[BlackElo "3555"]
[Time "18:31:34"]
[WhiteElo "3545"]
[TimeControl "7200+5"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "8/1r6/8/6n1/5k2/1b6/3K3N/7Q b - - 0 1"]
[Termination "unterminated"]
[PlyCount "64"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]

1. ... Rd7+ {(Rb7-d7+ Kd2-c3 Bb3-e6 Qh1-c1+ Kf4-f5 Qc1-g1 Kf5-f4 Qg1-f2+
Kf4-e5 Qf2-e3+ Ng5-e4+ Kc3-b4 Rd7-d4+ Kb4-a3 Rd4-c4 Nh2-f3+ Ke5-f5 Nf3-d4+
Kf5-e5 Nd4-e2 Ke5-d5 Ne2-f4+ Kd5-c6 Ka3-b2 Be6-d5 Nf4-d3 Rc4-a4 Qe3-h6+
Kc6-b5 Qh6-h8 Ne4-c5 Qh8-e8+ Bd5-c6 Qe8-b8+ Kb5-c4 Nd3-e5+ Kc4-d5 Qb8-h8
Ra4-e4 Ne5-f3 Bc6-d7 Kb2-c2 Kd5-d6 Qh8-b8+ Kd6-d5 Kc2-b1 Re4-e3 Qb8-a8+
Kd5-d6 Nf3-d4 Re3-e4) -0.55/45 144} 2. Kc3 {(Kd2-c3 Bb3-e6 Qh1-c1+ Kf4-f5
Qc1-g1 Kf5-f6 Qg1-f2+ Kf6-e5 Qf2-e3+ Ng5-e4+ Kc3-b4 Rd7-b7+ Kb4-a5 Be6-d5
Nh2-f3+ Ke5-e6 Nf3-d4+ Ke6-e5 Ka5-a6 Rb7-c7 Nd4-b5 Rc7-c5 Qe3-d4+ Ke5-e6
Nb5-a7 Rc5-c7 Qd4-e3 Rc7-d7 Ka6-a5 Ke6-f7 Na7-b5 Ne4-f6 Qe3-e5 Bd5-e6
Nb5-c7 Be6-g4 Ka5-b6 Rd7-e7 Qe5-f4 Kf7-g6 Qf4-d6 Kg6-f7) +0.82/42 51} Be6
{(Bb3-e6 Qh1-c1+ Kf4-f5 Qc1-g1 Rd7-b7 Kc3-d2 Kf5-f6 Qg1-c1 Rb7-d7+ Kd2-e3
Rd7-d5 Qc1-c3+ Kf6-f5 Nh2-f1 Rd5-e5+ Ke3-d3 Ng5-f7 Nf1-g3+ Kf5-f6 Kd3-d2
Be6-g4 Qc3-d4 Bg4-f5 Ng3-e2 Kf6-g6 Qd4-g1+ Kg6-f6 Ne2-f4 Kf6-e7 Qg1-g7
Bf5-e4 Qg7-g3 Be4-f5 Nf4-h5 Ke7-d7 Qg3-g7 Kd7-e7 Nh5-f6 Bf5-e6 Nf6-h7)
-0.48/45 254} 3. Qc1+ Kf5 {(Kf4-f5 Qc1-g1 Kf5-f4 Kc3-b4 Be6-h3 Qg1-c1+
Kf4-f5 Qc1-c3 Kf5-e6 Qc3-c6+ Ke6-e7 Kb4-c3 Rd7-d6 Qc6-c4 Bh3-d7 Qc4-b4
Ng5-f7 Nh2-f3 Ke7-f6 Qb4-h4+ Kf6-g7 Qh4-g3+ Kg7-f8 Qg3-f2 Rd6-f6 Qf2-c5+
Kf8-g8 Nf3-d4 Kg8-g7 Qc5-e7 Bd7-g4 Qe7-e4 Bg4-d7 Qe4-h4 Rf6-d6 Nd4-e2
Bd7-f5 Qh4-b4 Rd6-c6+ Kc3-b2 Rc6-d6) -0.63/45 135} 4. Qf1+ {(Qc1-f1+ Kf5-g6
Qf1-b1+ Kg6-g7 Qb1-g1 Kg7-f6 Qg1-f2+ Kf6-e5 Qf2-c5+ Rd7-d5 Qc5-c7+ Ke5-f6
Qc7-f4+ Kf6-g6 Qf4-a4 Rd5-f5 Qa4-c2 Kg6-f6 Kc3-b2 Rf5-b5+ Kb2-c1 Rb5-e5
Qc2-f2+ Kf6-g6 Qf2-g1 Re5-a5 Qg1-d4 Ra5-f5 Qd4-d3 Kg6-f7 Nh2-f1 Ng5-e4
Nf1-e3 Rf5-c5+ Kc1-b2 Ne4-f6 Qd3-d4 Rc5-h5 Ne3-c2 Nf6-d5 Qd4-d1 Rh5-f5
Nc2-d4) +0.44/34 104} Kg6 {(Kf5-g6 Qf1-b1+ Kg6-g7 Qb1-g1 Kg7-f6 Qg1-f2+
Kf6-e5 Qf2-g3+ Ke5-f6 Kc3-b4 Rd7-b7+ Kb4-a5 Rb7-a7+ Ka5-b6 Ra7-d7 Qg3-h4
Rd7-d6+ Kb6-a5 Rd6-d5+ Ka5-b4 Kf6-g7 Nh2-f1 Ng5-f7 Nf1-e3 Rd5-g5 Qh4-d4+
Kg7-f8 Kb4-c3 Kf8-g8 Qd4-b6 Rg5-g6 Qb6-b4 Rg6-g5 Kc3-d2 Be6-h3 Qb4-d4)
-0.64/42 67} 5. Qb1+ {(Qf1-b1+ Be6-f5 Qb1-b6+ Kg6-h5 Qb6-b5 Kh5-g6 Nh2-f1
Ng5-e4+ Kc3-b2 Ne4-f6 Qb5-e5 Nf6-g4 Qe5-f4 Rd7-d5 Kb2-c3 Ng4-f6 Nf1-e3
Bf5-e6 Kc3-b2 Rd5-b5+ Kb2-c1 Rb5-c5+ Kc1-d2 Kg6-g7 Kd2-e2 Kg7-f7 Ke2-d3
Rc5-b5 Kd3-c2 Rb5-b7 Kc2-c1 Rb7-b5 Qf4-d4 Nf6-d7 Qd4-d6 Rb5-c5+ Kc1-d1
Rc5-b5 Kd1-d2 Rb5-c5 Qd6-f4+ Nd7-f6) +0.48/41 92} Kg7 {(Kg6-g7 Qb1-g1
Kg7-f6 Qg1-f2+ Kf6-e5 Qf2-c5+ Rd7-d5 Qc5-e3+ Ng5-e4+ Kc3-b4 Rd5-d4+ Kb4-a3
Rd4-c4 Nh2-f3+ Ke5-d5 Qe3-f4 Ne4-c5 Qf4-g5+ Kd5-d6 Qg5-d8+ Nc5-d7 Qd8-h8
Kd6-d5 Nf3-d2 Rc4-c6 Ka3-b2 Kd5-d6 Nd2-f3 Rc6-c5 Qh8-h4 Rc5-c4 Qh4-h6
Rc4-a4 Kb2-c1 Nd7-c5 Qh6-f6 Kd6-d5 Qf6-d8+ Kd5-e4 Nf3-g5+ Ke4-f5) -0.56/43
63} 6. Nf1 {(Nh2-f1 Rd7-c7+ Kc3-d2 Rc7-d7+ Kd2-e1 Ng5-f3+ Ke1-f2 Nf3-e5
Qb1-a1 Kg7-f6 Qa1-b2 Rd7-f7 Kf2-e1 Rf7-d7 Nf1-e3 Rd7-d3 Ke1-f2 Rd3-d7
Kf2-f1 Rd7-h7 Qb2-b6 Rh7-d7 Kf1-e2 Kf6-f7 Qb6-b1 Ne5-g6 Qb1-e4 Kf7-f6
Ke2-e1 Rd7-d6 Qe4-b7 Rd6-d7 Qb7-f3+ Kf6-g7 Qf3-e4 Rd7-d6 Qe4-b7+ Rd6-d7
Qb7-b6 Kg7-f7 Qb6-b1 Rd7-e7 Qb1-e4) +0.50/40 299} Rc7+ {(Rd7-c7+ Kc3-d2
Rc7-d7+ Kd2-e1 Ng5-f3+ Ke1-f2 Nf3-e5 Qb1-a1 Kg7-f6 Qa1-b2 Rd7-f7 Kf2-e1
Rf7-d7 Qb2-b8 Be6-f5 Nf1-e3 Bf5-e4 Qb8-b6+ Kf6-f7 Qb6-b3+ Kf7-f6 Qb3-a4
Be4-f5 Ke1-f2 Bf5-d3 Qa4-a1 Kf6-e6 Qa1-a2+ Ke6-f6 Qa2-b2 Kf6-e6 Qb2-b3+
Ke6-f6 Qb3-b6+ Kf6-e7 Kf2-g3 Ne5-f7 Qb6-c6 Rd7-d6 Ne3-d5+ Ke7-e6 Nd5-f4+
Ke6-e7 Qc6-c5 Ke7-d7 Nf4-h5 Kd7-e7 Kg3-f2) -0.64/42 80} 7. Kd2 {(Kc3-d2
Rc7-d7+ Kd2-e1 Ng5-f3+ Ke1-f2 Rd7-f7 Qb1-a1+ Kg7-h7 Kf2-e3 Nf3-g5 Nf1-d2
Kh7-g6 Qa1-b1+ Rf7-f5 Ke3-d3 Rf5-e5 Kd3-c3+ Kg6-f6 Qb1-b8 Re5-f5 Qb8-b6
Kf6-e7 Qb6-a7+ Ke7-f6 Qa7-d4+ Kf6-f7 Qd4-h4 Be6-d5 Kc3-b2 Bd5-e6 Qh4-b4
Kf7-g6 Qb4-d4 Rf5-d5 Qd4-e3 Rd5-b5+ Kb2-a3 Rb5-f5 Qe3-b6 Kg6-f7 Ka3-b2
Kf7-e7 Qb6-c7+ Ke7-f6 Qc7-d8+ Kf6-g6 Qd8-d3 Kg6-f7) +0.51/46 91} Rd7+
{(Rc7-d7+ Kd2-e1 Ng5-f3+ Ke1-f2 Rd7-f7 Qb1-a1+ Kg7-g6 Nf1-e3 Nf3-g5+ Kf2-e2
Rf7-f4 Qa1-g1 Rf4-a4 Qg1-b1+ Ra4-e4 Ke2-d2 Kg6-f6 Qb1-b6 Kf6-g6 Qb6-b8
Ng5-f3+ Kd2-d3 Nf3-g5 Qb8-g3 Re4-b4 Kd3-c3 Rb4-b3+ Kc3-c2 Rb3-b4 Kc2-c1
Rb4-a4 Ne3-c2 Ra4-g4 Qg3-d6 Kg6-f6 Kc1-b2 Ng5-f7 Qd6-b6 Kf6-e7 Qb6-a7+
Ke7-e8 Qa7-b8+ Ke8-e7) -0.54/43 79} 8. Ke1 {(Kd2-e1 Ng5-f3+ Ke1-f2 Rd7-f7
Qb1-a1+ Kg7-h7 Kf2-e3 Nf3-g5 Nf1-d2 Kh7-g6 Qa1-b1+ Rf7-f5 Ke3-d3 Rf5-e5
Kd3-c3+ Kg6-f6 Qb1-b8 Re5-f5 Qb8-a7 Kf6-g6 Qa7-b6 Kg6-f6 Kc3-b2 Kf6-f7
Qb6-b4 Kf7-g6 Qb4-a4 Rf5-d5 Qa4-c2+ Kg6-f7 Qc2-c7+ Kf7-f6 Kb2-c3 Rd5-b5
Qc7-d8+ Kf6-f7 Qd8-d6 Kf7-f6 Qd6-f4+ Rb5-f5 Qf4-d4+ Kf6-f7 Kc3-b2 Kf7-g6
Qd4-d3 Kg6-f7 Kb2-c1 Rf5-d5) +0.51/47 143} Nf3+ {(Ng5-f3+ Ke1-f2 Rd7-f7
Qb1-a1+ Kg7-g6 Nf1-e3 Nf3-g5+ Kf2-e2 Rf7-f4 Qa1-a6 Rf4-e4 Ke2-d3 Re4-e5
Ne3-g2 Kg6-g7 Ng2-f4 Be6-f5+ Kd3-c3 Ng5-f7 Nf4-h5+ Kg7-f8 Kc3-b2 Kf8-g8
Qa6-f6 Kg8-f8 Qf6-g7+ Kf8-e7 Nh5-f6 Bf5-e4 Nf6-g8+ Ke7-e8 Qg7-f6 Be4-f5
Kb2-c3 Re5-e3+ Kc3-d2 Re3-e5 Ng8-h6 Bf5-e6 Kd2-c2) -0.49/41 61} 9. Kf2
{(Ke1-f2 Rd7-f7 Qb1-a1+ Kg7-h7 Kf2-e3 Nf3-g5 Nf1-d2 Kh7-g6 Qa1-b1+ Rf7-f5
Ke3-d3 Rf5-e5 Kd3-c3+ Kg6-f6 Qb1-b8 Re5-f5 Qb8-a7 Kf6-g6 Qa7-b6 Kg6-f6
Kc3-b2 Kf6-f7 Qb6-e3 Be6-d5 Qe3-a7+ Kf7-g6 Qa7-g1 Rf5-e5 Qg1-d4 Re5-f5
Qd4-g4 Rf5-e5 Qg4-f4 Re5-f5 Qf4-g3 Bd5-e6 Qg3-d3 Kg6-f7 Qd3-d4 Kf7-g6
Qd4-g1 Rf5-b5+ Kb2-c3 Kg6-f7 Qg1-a7+ Kf7-g6) +0.51/46 448} Rf7 {(Rd7-f7
Qb1-a1+ Kg7-g6 Nf1-e3 Nf3-g5+ Kf2-e2 Rf7-f4 Ke2-d2 Ng5-e4+ Kd2-c1 Ne4-f6
Qa1-a7 Rf4-e4 Ne3-c2 Be6-d5 Qa7-b6 Re4-g4 Qb6-e3 Rg4-c4 Kc1-b2 Kg6-f7
Nc2-d4 Rc4-b4+ Kb2-a3 Rb4-b7 Qe3-c3 Rb7-a7+ Ka3-b2 Ra7-b7+ Kb2-c1 Nf6-e8
Qc3-d3 Rb7-c7+ Kc1-b2 Rc7-b7+ Kb2-a3 Rb7-a7+ Ka3-b4 Ne8-f6 Nd4-b5 Ra7-d7
Kb4-a3 Bd5-e4 Qd3-c4+ Kf7-g6 Qc4-c5 Rd7-d5 Qc5-b6) -0.56/43 47} 10. Qa1+
{(Qb1-a1+ Kg7-g6 Nf1-e3 Nf3-h4+ Kf2-e2 Rf7-e7 Qa1-b1+ Kg6-g7 Ke2-f2 Re7-f7+
Kf2-e1 Rf7-e7 Qb1-b2+ Kg7-f7 Qb2-b8 Nh4-g6 Ke1-f2 Re7-e8 Qb8-c7+ Re8-e7
Qc7-c5 Ng6-f4 Kf2-g1 Re7-d7 Qc5-e5 Nf4-g6 Qe5-b8 Kf7-g7 Qb8-b2+ Kg7-g8
Kg1-f2 Rd7-h7 Qb2-b8+ Ng6-f8 Kf2-f1 Rh7-g7 Kf1-e1 Rg7-e7 Qb8-g3+ Kg8-f7
Qg3-f4+ Kf7-g7 Qf4-d4+ Kg7-f7 Ke1-f2 Kf7-g8 Qd4-e4 Kg8-f7 Qe4-f3+ Kf7-g8
Qf3-g3+ Re7-g7 Qg3-b8) +0.50/46 69} Kg6 {(Kg7-g6 Nf1-e3 Nf3-g5+ Kf2-e2
Rf7-f4 Ke2-d2 Rf4-e4 Qa1-g1 Kg6-f6 Qg1-f2+ Kf6-e7 Ne3-g2 Re4-c4 Qf2-a7+
Ke7-f6 Qa7-a1+ Kf6-e7 Qa1-a5 Ke7-f6 Qa5-d8+ Kf6-g6 Qd8-b8 Ng5-f7 Ng2-f4+
Kg6-f5 Nf4-e2 Kf5-f6 Qb8-b2+ Kf6-e7 Qb2-b6 Be6-d7 Ne2-d4 Rc4-a4 Nd4-b3
Nf7-e5 Qb6-b8 Ra4-e4 Nb3-c5) -0.52/40 48} 11. Ne3 {(Nf1-e3 Nf3-h4+ Kf2-e2
Rf7-e7 Qa1-b1+ Kg6-g7 Ke2-f2 Re7-f7+ Kf2-e1 Rf7-e7 Qb1-e4 Nh4-g6 Qe4-c6
Ng6-f8 Qc6-d6 Nf8-g6 Qd6-b6 Kg7-f7 Qb6-b8 Kf7-g7 Qb8-b5 Kg7-f8 Qb5-b2
Kf8-f7 Qb2-h2 Kf7-g7 Qh2-c2 Kg7-f7 Ke1-f2 Re7-a7 Qc2-c5 Ra7-d7 Ne3-f5
Rd7-d2+ Kf2-e1 Rd2-d5 Nf5-d6+ Kf7-g7 Qc5-a7+ Kg7-h6 Qa7-f2 Ng6-e5 Qf2-f6+
Ne5-g6 Nd6-c4 Be6-d7 Qf6-b2 Bd7-f5 Qb2-b6 Kh6-g7 Ke1-f2 Rd5-d7 Nc4-e3
Ng6-e7) +0.50/46 158} Ng5+ {(Nf3-g5+ Kf2-e2 Rf7-f4 Ke2-d3 Ng5-f7 Kd3-d2
Rf4-f6 Qa1-d4 Be6-d7 Ne3-d5 Rf6-d6 Kd2-e3 Kg6-h6 Qd4-h4+ Kh6-g7 Nd5-f4
Kg7-g8 Qh4-g3+ Kg8-f8 Qg3-g2 Bd7-c6 Qg2-b2 Bc6-e8 Qb2-b8 Kf8-e7 Qb8-b7+
Be8-d7 Qb7-e4+ Ke7-f8 Qe4-h7 Kf8-e7 Ke3-f2 Rd6-d4 Kf2-g3 Rd4-d6 Qh7-e4+
Ke7-f8 Qe4-a8+ Kf8-e7 Nf4-d5+ Ke7-e6 Nd5-c7+ Ke6-e7) -0.48/42 53} 12. Ke2
{(Kf2-e2 Rf7-f4 Qa1-a8 Rf4-e4 Qa8-c6 Kg6-h7 Ke2-d3 Be6-f7 Ne3-f5 Re4-e6
Qc6-c7 Re6-f6 Nf5-e7 Rf6-e6 Kd3-c3 Ng5-e4+ Kc3-b4 Ne4-f6 Kb4-a5 Nf6-e8
Qc7-g3 Re6-f6 Ka5-b5 Ne8-d6+ Kb5-b4 Rf6-h6 Qg3-g5 Rh6-e6 Ne7-c6 Bf7-g6
Qg5-h4+ Kh7-g7 Qh4-d4+ Re6-f6 Qd4-e5 Nd6-e8 Nc6-e7 Bg6-f7 Kb4-c5 Kg7-f8
Ne7-c6 Kf8-g7 Qe5-b2 Ne8-d6 Nc6-e5) +0.51/41 89} Rf4 {(Rf7-f4 Ke2-d2 Rf4-e4
Qa1-g1 Kg6-f6 Qg1-f2+ Kf6-e7 Ne3-g2 Re4-c4 Qf2-b6 Ng5-e4+ Kd2-e3 Ne4-f6
Qb6-a7+ Nf6-d7 Ng2-f4 Rc4-c3+ Ke3-d2 Rc3-c5 Nf4-e2 Rc5-d5+ Ne2-d4 Ke7-f6
Kd2-e2 Be6-f7 Nd4-c6 Nd7-e5 Qa7-f2+ Kf6-e6 Nc6-d4+ Ke6-e7 Qf2-h4+ Ke7-d7
Ke2-f2 Kd7-c7 Qh4-e7+ Ne5-d7 Qe7-e4) -0.62/43 61} 13. Qa6 {(Qa1-a6 Rf4-e4
Qa6-c6 Re4-e5 Qc6-g2 Re5-e4 Ke2-d2 Re4-e5 Qg2-g3 Re5-e4 Kd2-c3 Kg6-f6
Kc3-c2 Be6-f5 Kc2-b2 Bf5-e6 Qg3-f2+ Kf6-e7 Qf2-g2 Ke7-f6 Qg2-g3 Re4-b4+
Kb2-c1 Rb4-e4 Qg3-f2+ Kf6-g6 Kc1-c2 Re4-a4 Qf2-g3 Ra4-e4 Kc2-d2 Re4-d4+
Kd2-c1 Rd4-e4 Qg3-g1 Be6-c4 Kc1-d2 Bc4-e6 Kd2-d3 Be6-f5 Kd3-c3 Bf5-e6
Qg1-f2 Re4-a4 Qf2-g2 Ra4-a3+ Kc3-d4) +0.44/46 373} Re4 {(Rf4-e4 Qa6-d6
Ng5-f7 Qd6-g3+ Kg6-h7 Ke2-d2 Re4-a4 Ne3-g2 Ra4-d4+ Kd2-e3 Rd4-d6 Ng2-f4
Be6-f5 Qg3-g2 Bf5-g6 Qg2-b2 Kh7-g8 Ke3-f3 Kg8-f8 Kf3-g4 Nf7-h6+ Kg4-h4
Nh6-f7 Qb2-b8+ Kf8-e7 Qb8-c8 Ke7-f6 Qc8-g4 Kf6-g7 Qg4-g2 Kg7-h6 Qg2-e2
Rd6-f6 Kh4-g3 Nf7-g5 Qe2-g4 Ng5-f7 Nf4-e6 Kh6-h7 Qg4-h3+ Kh7-g8) -0.49/44
57} 14. Qc6 {(Qa6-c6 Re4-e5 Qc6-g2 Re5-e4 Ke2-d2 Re4-d4+ Kd2-c3 Rd4-e4
Kc3-d3 Be6-f5 Kd3-d2 Bf5-e6 Qg2-g3 Kg6-f6 Kd2-d1 Kf6-g6 Kd1-c2 Be6-f5
Kc2-b2 Bf5-e6 Qg3-g1 Be6-f5 Qg1-f2 Re4-e5 Qf2-f4 Ng5-f7 Kb2-c3 Bf5-e6
Qf4-f2 Re5-e4 Ne3-g2 Kg6-g5 Qf2-g3+ Re4-g4 Qg3-e3+ Kg5-f5 Qe3-f2+ Kf5-g5
Qf2-e2 Kg5-f6 Qe2-f3+ Kf6-g5) +0.45/38 78} Re5 {(Re4-e5 Ke2-d3 Kg6-g7
Qc6-c3 Ng5-f7 Ne3-g2 Be6-f5+ Kd3-d2 Kg7-f8 Ng2-f4 Kf8-g7 Qc3-d4 Bf5-h7
Kd2-c1 Kg7-f8 Qd4-b4+ Kf8-g8 Qb4-b6 Kg8-f8 Kc1-d2 Bh7-e4 Qb6-f6 Be4-f5
Qf6-a6 Bf5-e4 Kd2-c3 Be4-f5 Qa6-b6 Kf8-e7 Qb6-a7+ Ke7-f8 Qa7-f2 Kf8-e7
Kc3-d2 Ke7-f8 Qf2-d4 Kf8-e7 Nf4-h5 Re5-e6 Qd4-a7+ Ke7-f8) -0.54/41 65} 15.
Qb6 {(Qc6-b6 Re5-e4 Ke2-d3 Re4-h4 Qb6-b8 Rh4-e4 Qb8-h8 Ng5-f7 Qh8-h2 Nf7-g5
Qh2-g3 Be6-f5 Kd3-e2 Bf5-e6 Ke2-d1 Be6-f5 Qg3-d6+ Re4-e6 Qd6-f4 Bf5-e4
Ne3-c4 Ng5-f7 Kd1-d2 Kg6-g7 Kd2-c3 Kg7-g6 Kc3-d4 Kg6-g7 Kd4-c5 Re6-c6+
Kc5-b4 Rc6-e6 Qf4-g4+ Kg7-f6 Qg4-h4+ Kf6-g6 Qh4-g3+ Kg6-f5) +0.45/36 41}
Nf7 {(Ng5-f7 Ke2-d2 Kg6-g7 Ne3-g2 Re5-e4 Kd2-c1 Kg7-g6 Ng2-e3 Kg6-g7 Kc1-b2
Re4-e5 Ne3-c2 Be6-d7 Qb6-d4 Bd7-f5 Qd4-g1+ Kg7-f8 Nc2-d4 Re5-d5 Qg1-f2
Bf5-c8 Kb2-c3 Rd5-d6 Nd4-e2 Bc8-d7 Ne2-f4 Rd6-c6+ Kc3-d2 Bd7-f5 Qf2-f3
Bf5-d7 Qf3-e4 Rc6-d6+ Kd2-e3 Kf8-g7 Qe4-b4 Kg7-f6 Qb4-b2+ Kf6-e7 Qb2-b7
Ke7-f8) -0.46/45 73} 16. Kd3 {(Ke2-d3 Kg6-g5 Kd3-c3 Re5-e4 Ne3-f1 Kg5-f6
Nf1-g3 Re4-e5 Qb6-d4 Kf6-e7 Ng3-e4 Ke7-f8 Ne4-f6 Kf8-g7 Nf6-h5+ Kg7-g8
Nh5-f4 Be6-f5 Kc3-d2 Kg8-f8 Qd4-b4+ Kf8-g7 Qb4-b6 Kg7-f8 Nf4-h5 Re5-d5+
Kd2-c3 Rd5-e5 Nh5-f4 Kf8-e7 Qb6-a7+ Ke7-f6 Qa7-d4 Kf6-g5 Nf4-d5 Kg5-g6
Qd4-g1+ Kg6-h6 Nd5-f4 Re5-e4 Qg1-b6+ Kh6-h7) +0.51/40 92} Kg7 {(Kg6-g7
Ne3-g2 Be6-f5+ Kd3-c3 Re5-e4 Ng2-e3 Bf5-e6 Kc3-d2 Re4-e5 Ne3-g2 Re5-e4
Qb6-b2+ Kg7-g6 Qb2-b7 Be6-f5 Qb7-b6+ Kg6-g7 Qb6-f2 Re4-e5 Ng2-f4 Kg7-f8
Kd2-c3 Kf8-e7 Qf2-a7+ Ke7-f8 Qa7-a3+ Kf8-g8 Kc3-b2 Re5-b5+ Kb2-c1 Rb5-e5
Qa3-g3+ Kg8-f8 Nf4-h5 Re5-c5+ Kc1-d2 Rc5-d5+ Kd2-e1 Rd5-e5+ Ke1-f2 Bf5-c8
Qg3-g7+ Kf8-e7 Nh5-f4 Bc8-f5 Qg7-g3 Bf5-e4 Qg3-a3+ Ke7-d7 Qa3-h3+ Kd7-e7)
-0.53/46 63} 17. Kd4 {(Kd3-d4 Kg7-g6 Kd4-c3 Nf7-g5 Ne3-g4 Re5-e4 Ng4-f2
Re4-f4 Nf2-d3 Rf4-f3 Kc3-c2 Rf3-f5 Qb6-d4 Kg6-h7 Kc2-c3 Kh7-g8 Nd3-e5
Ng5-f3 Qd4-d8+ Kg8-g7 Qd8-e7+ Be6-f7 Ne5-g4 Rf5-f4 Ng4-e3 Rf4-f6 Qe7-e4
Bf7-e6 Qe4-b7+ Kg7-g6 Qb7-b8 Nf3-g5 Qb8-c7 Ng5-f7 Qc7-g3+ Kg6-h7 Qg3-h4+
Kh7-g7 Ne3-g2 Rf6-f5 Qh4-d4+ Kg7-h7 Ng2-e3 Rf5-e5 Qd4-b6 Kh7-g6 Ne3-c4)
+0.51/45 213} Bd7 {(Be6-d7 Kd4-c3 Re5-e4 Ne3-d5 Bd7-e6 Nd5-e7 Kg7-f6 Kc3-d2
Re4-e5 Ne7-c6 Re5-e4 Nc6-d4 Re4-e5 Nd4-e2 Re5-d5+ Kd2-c3 Rd5-d6 Qb6-g1
Rd6-c6+ Kc3-d2 Rc6-d6+ Kd2-e3 Be6-f5 Ke3-f2 Bf5-d7 Qg1-b1 Kf6-e7 Ne2-f4
Rd6-f6 Kf2-e3 Ke7-f8 Qb1-b8+ Bd7-e8 Ke3-d2) -0.46/45 106} 18. Kc3 {(Kd4-c3
Bd7-e6 Qb6-d4 Kg7-f6 Ne3-g2 Kf6-g7 Ng2-f4 Be6-f5 Qd4-g1+ Kg7-f8 Qg1-f2
Kf8-g7 Qf2-d4 Kg7-f6 Kc3-b2 Kf6-e7 Qd4-b6 Bf5-e4 Kb2-c3 Be4-f5 Qb6-c7+
Ke7-f8 Qc7-c6 Kf8-g7 Nf4-h5+ Kg7-f8 Qc6-f6 Re5-c5+ Kc3-d4 Rc5-e5 Qf6-b6
Re5-e4+ Kd4-c3 Re4-e5 Qb6-d4 Kf8-e7 Qd4-g1 Bf5-e6 Qg1-a7+ Be6-d7 Nh5-f4
Nf7-d6 Kc3-c2 Re5-g5 Qa7-e3+) +0.51/43 55} Re4 {(Re5-e4 Ne3-d5 Bd7-e6
Nd5-c7 Be6-d7 Qb6-g1+ Kg7-f8 Nc7-d5 Bd7-f5 Nd5-f6 Re4-e5 Nf6-h5 Re5-d5
Qg1-a1 Rd5-d6 Qa1-a8+ Kf8-e7 Nh5-f4 Bf5-d7 Qa8-e4+ Ke7-f6 Qe4-h7 Bd7-f5
Nf4-h5+ Kf6-g5 Qh7xf7 Rd6-d3+ Kc3-b4 Bf5-g6 Qf7-f6+ Kg5xh5 Qf6-f4 Rd3-h3
Qf4-e5+ Kh5-g4) -0.44/42 72} 19. Nd5 {(Ne3-d5 Re4-e5 Qb6-f6+ Kg7-f8 Nd5-f4
Bd7-f5 Kc3-b3 Kf8-g8 Qf6-b6 Kg8-h7 Kb3-b2 Kh7-g8 Qb6-f6 Re5-c5 Nf4-h5
Rc5-b5+ Kb2-c3 Kg8-f8 Qf6-d4 Kf8-e7 Nh5-f4 Rb5-e5 Kc3-b2 Ke7-f8 Qd4-f2
Kf8-g7 Kb2-c1 Bf5-e4 Qf2-d4 Be4-f5 Qd4-g1+ Kg7-f8 Kc1-d2 Kf8-e7 Qg1-d4
Ke7-f6 Nf4-d5+ Kf6-g7 Kd2-c1 Kg7-g6 Qd4-b6+ Kg6-g7 Qb6-g1+ Kg7-h7 Qg1-h2+
Kh7-g7 Qh2-f2 Kg7-g6 Nd5-f4+ Kg6-g7 Qf2-g3+ Kg7-h6) +0.51/48 191} Be6
{(Bd7-e6 Nd5-e7 Kg7-f6 Kc3-d2 Re4-e5 Ne7-c6 Re5-e4 Nc6-d4 Re4-e5 Qb6-a6
Nf7-g5 Kd2-c3 Kf6-g7 Nd4-c6 Re5-e4 Qa6-b6 Be6-f5 Qb6-f2 Ng5-f7 Nc6-d4
Bf5-g6 Qf2-g1 Re4-e8 Nd4-f5+ Kg7-f6 Nf5-e3 Re8-d8 Kc3-b4 Nf7-e5 Qg1-g2
Kf6-e6 Ne3-c4 Bg6-d3) -0.38/40 58} 20. Nc7 {(Nd5-c7 Be6-f5 Qb6-b8 Re4-e3+
Kc3-b4 Nf7-h6 Qb8-a7 Re3-e4+ Kb4-c5 Re4-e5+ Nc7-d5+ Nh6-f7 Kc5-d4 Re5-e4+
Kd4-c3 Bf5-e6 Nd5-c7 Be6-g4 Qa7-b8 Kg7-f6 Qb8-f8 Re4-e5 Qf8-b4 Bg4-f3
Qb4-h4+ Kf6-g7 Qh4-d4 Kg7-f6 Kc3-b4 Kf6-e7 Qd4-h4+ Ke7-d7 Qh4-f6 Re5-e4+
Kb4-c5 Re4-e5+ Kc5-b6 Bf3-d5 Qf6-g7 Bd5-e6 Nc7-b5 Kd7-e7 Qg7-h7 Be6-f5
Qh7-h4+ Ke7-f8 Qh4-b4+ Kf8-g7) +0.49/41 35} Bf5 {(Be6-f5 Nc7-d5 Re4-e6
Qb6-g1+ Kg7-f8 Nd5-f4 Re6-c6+ Kc3-b4 Rc6-d6 Qg1-a7 Kf8-g8 Qa7-a8+ Kg8-g7
Kb4-c5 Rd6-d1 Qa8-g2+ Kg7-f8 Nf4-h5 Rd1-c1+ Kc5-b4 Rc1-b1+ Kb4-a3 Rb1-a1+
Ka3-b2 Ra1-b1+ Kb2-a2 Rb1-b5 Qg2-a8+ Kf8-e7 Qa8-a7+ Bf5-d7 Nh5-f4 Nf7-e5
Qa7-a6 Ke7-f8 Qa6-f6+ Kf8-e8 Qf6-g7 Ne5-c6 Nf4-g6) -0.27/39 168} 21. Kd2
{(Kc3-d2 Nf7-g5 Qb6-g1 Kg7-f6 Kd2-c3 Ng5-f7 Qg1-c5 Kf6-g5 Nc7-d5 Nf7-h6
Nd5-e3 Kg5-f4 Ne3-c4 Nh6-g4 Qc5-c7+ Kf4-g5 Nc4-d6 Re4-e6 Qc7-b8 Bf5-g6
Qb8-d8+ Ng4-f6 Kc3-b4 Bg6-e4 Qd8-b8 Kg5-g6 Nd6-c4 Kg6-g7 Qb8-c7+ Kg7-g8
Qc7-d8+ Kg8-f7 Kb4-a5 Nf6-e8 Qd8-d4 Be4-f5 Nc4-e5+ Kf7-g7 Qd4-f4 Re6-f6
Qf4-g5+ Kg7-f8) +0.49/39 168} Re5 {(Re4-e5 Qb6-g1+ Kg7-f8 Qg1-d4 Kf8-g7
Nc7-d5 Kg7-f8 Nd5-f6 Bf5-e6 Qd4-h4 Be6-f5 Qh4-g3 Kf8-e7 Qg3-g7 Re5-c5
Nf6-g8+ Ke7-e8 Qg7-d4 Rc5-c2+ Kd2-e3 Rc2-c6 Qd4-b2 Ke8-f8 Ng8-f6 Rc6-e6+
Ke3-f4 Bf5-g6 Qb2-b8+ Kf8-g7 Nf6-d7 Re6-d6 Qb8-f8+ Kg7-h7 Qf8-c8 Rd6-d4+
Kf4-f3) -0.36/42 208} 22. Qd4 {(Qb6-d4 Bf5-e4 Kd2-c3 Kg7-f6 Qd4-d7 Be4-f5
Qd7-c6+ Kf6-g7 Qc6-g2+ Kg7-f8 Qg2-a8+ Kf8-g7 Kc3-d4 Re5-e4+ Kd4-c5 Re4-e5+
Kc5-b6 Bf5-e4 Qa8-a7 Kg7-g6 Qa7-a3 Be4-f5 Qa3-g3+ Kg6-f6 Qg3-f2 Kf6-e7
Qf2-h4+ Ke7-f8 Qh4-g3 Bf5-e4 Qg3-f4 Kf8-e7 Qf4-h4+ Ke7-f8 Qh4-f6 Be4-f5
Qf6-c6 Kf8-g7 Qc6-g2+ Kg7-f6 Qg2-a8 Bf5-d7 Qa8-a3 Bd7-f5 Qa3-f8) +0.49/44
157} Kf8 {(Kg7-f8 Nc7-d5 Re5-e4 Qd4-c5+ Kf8-g7 Qc5-g1+ Kg7-f8 Nd5-c7 Re4-e5
Qg1-d4 Kf8-g7 Kd2-c1 Kg7-f6 Nc7-d5+ Kf6-g7 Kc1-b2 Kg7-f8 Kb2-a3 Kf8-g7
Qd4-g1+ Kg7-f8 Nd5-b4 Re5-a5+ Ka3-b2 Ra5-b5 Kb2-c3 Bf5-e6 Qg1-d4 Rb5-e5
Nb4-d3 Re5-d5 Qd4-e4 Rd5-d6 Qe4-f3 Be6-g4 Qf3-a8+ Kf8-g7 Qa8-e4 Kg7-f8
Nd3-f4) -0.45/43 112} 23. Kc3 {(Kd2-c3 Re5-e4 Qd4-f6 Re4-e3+ Kc3-d4 Re3-e4+
Kd4-c5 Re4-e5+ Kc5-b6 Bf5-d7 Qf6-f4 Bd7-e6 Qf4-h4 Be6-f5 Qh4-b4+ Kf8-g7
Qb4-a3 Bf5-g6 Qa3-a1 Bg6-e4 Qa1-g1+ Kg7-f6 Qg1-f2+ Kf6-g7 Qf2-f4 Kg7-g6
Qf4-g3+ Kg6-f6 Qg3-g8 Be4-f5 Qg8-f8 Bf5-g6 Qf8-a8 Bg6-e4 Qa8-b8 Be4-g6
Qb8-f8 Bg6-h5 Qf8-a8 Bh5-g4 Qa8-c6+ Kf6-e7 Qc6-c4 Bg4-d7 Qc4-h4+ Ke7-f8)
+0.49/43 37} Bc8 {(Bf5-c8 Kc3-b2 Bc8-f5 Nc7-a6 Re5-e2+ Kb2-b3 Re2-e5 Qd4-b6
Re5-e6 Qb6-a7 Re6-e5 Na6-c7 Kf8-e7 Nc7-d5+ Ke7-e6 Nd5-f4+ Ke6-f6 Kb3-c3
Kf6-g7 Qa7-b6 Kg7-g8 Kc3-d2 Kg8-f8 Qb6-d4 Kf8-e7 Nf4-h5 Ke7-f8 Qd4-b4+
Kf8-g8 Kd2-c3 Kg8-h7 Qb4-b6 Kh7-g8 Qb6-g1+ Kg8-f8 Nh5-f6 Kf8-e7 Qg1-g7
Bf5-e6 Nf6-h7 Re5-f5 Qg7-f8+ Ke7-d7) -0.37/39 55} 24. Nd5 {(Nc7-d5 Bc8-f5
Nd5-f4 Kf8-g7 Qd4-b6 Kg7-g8 Nf4-h5 Kg8-f8 Qb6-b4+ Kf8-g8 Qb4-b8+ Kg8-h7
Qb8-b6 Kh7-g8 Qb6-g1+ Kg8-f8 Qg1-a7 Kf8-g8 Nh5-f4 Kg8-g7 Qa7-g1+ Kg7-f6
Nf4-h5+ Kf6-e7 Qg1-d4 Ke7-f8 Kc3-b2 Bf5-g6 Nh5-f4 Bg6-f5 Qd4-b6 Kf8-e7
Qb6-b7+ Ke7-f8 Qb7-b8+ Kf8-e7 Qb8-b6 Ke7-f8 Kb2-c1 Re5-e1+ Kc1-d2 Re1-e5
Qb6-f6 Re5-c5 Kd2-e1 Rc5-e5+ Ke1-d1) +0.51/42 29} Bf5 {(Bc8-f5 Nd5-f4
Bf5-e4 Qd4-b4+ Kf8-g8 Qb4-b8+ Kg8-g7 Qb8-b6 Be4-f5 Nf4-h5+ Kg7-g8 Qb6-f6
Kg8-f8 Qf6-a6 Kf8-g8 Qa6-a8+ Kg8-h7 Qa8-g2 Kh7-h6 Nh5-f6 Re5-e6 Nf6-d5
Re6-e5 Nd5-b4 Bf5-e4 Qg2-g8 Be4-g6 Qg8-f8+ Kh6-g5 Kc3-d4 Re5-e4+ Kd4-c5
Re4-e5+ Nb4-d5 Bg6-e4 Qf8-g7+ Kg5-h4 Qg7-f6+ Kh4-g4 Qf6-f4+ Kg4-h3 Qf4xf7
Re5xd5+ Qf7xd5 Be4xd5 Kc5-b5 Kh3-g4 Kb5-a6) -0.25/44 204} 25. Nf4 {(Nd5-f4
Kf8-g7 Qd4-f2 Nf7-h6 Qf2-a7+ Nh6-f7 Qa7-d4 Bf5-g6 Qd4-b6 Bg6-f5 Nf4-h5+
Kg7-g8 Kc3-d2 Bf5-e6 Nh5-f4 Be6-f5 Qb6-f6 Kg8-f8 Qf6-c6 Kf8-e7 Nf4-d5+
Ke7-f8 Qc6-c5+ Kf8-g7 Qc5-g1+ Kg7-f8 Nd5-f4 Kf8-e7 Qg1-b6 Ke7-f8 Qb6-f6
Kf8-g8 Kd2-c3 Re5-c5+ Kc3-b2 Rc5-e5 Qf6-c6 Kg8-f8 Qc6-b6 Kf8-g8 Kb2-a3
Kg8-f8 Qb6-f6 Re5-e3+ Ka3-b2) +0.51/38 5} Kg8 {(Kf8-g8 Qd4-g1+ Kg8-f8
Qg1-a7 Kf8-g8 Kc3-d2 Kg8-g7 Qa7-a6 Kg7-f8 Nf4-h5 Re5-d5+ Kd2-e3 Rd5-d6
Qa6-a3 Kf8-g8 Qa3-a7 Bf5-g6 Nh5-f4 Kg8-g7 Ke3-f2 Rd6-f6 Kf2-g3 Rf6-d6
Qa7-a8 Bg6-f5 Kg3-h4 Kg7-f6 Qa8-e8 Rd6-d4 Qe8-c6+ Rd4-d6 Qc6-a8 Bf5-g6
Qa8-a7 Kf6-f5 Qa7-f2 Kf5-f6 Qf2-b2+ Kf6-e7 Nf4xg6+ Rd6xg6) -0.24/40 16} 26.
Qb6 {(Qd4-b6 Kg8-g7 Nf4-h5+ Kg7-g8 Qb6-a7 Kg8-f8 Qa7-b8+ Kf8-e7 Qb8-b7+
Bf5-d7 Qb7-b4+ Ke7-e6 Nh5-f4+ Ke6-f6 Qb4-b6+ Bd7-e6 Qb6-f2 Be6-f5 Qf2-h4+
Kf6-g7 Qh4-g3+ Kg7-h7 Qg3-g1 Re5-e4 Nf4-d5 Kh7-h6 Qg1-b6+ Re4-e6 Qb6-d4
Re6-c6+ Kc3-b2 Rc6-e6 Qd4-f4+ Kh6-g6 Qf4-f2 Re6-e5 Qf2-g3+ Kg6-h6 Qg3-h4+
Kh6-g7 Qh4-f6+ Kg7-f8 Nd5-f4) +0.51/38 6} Kf8 {(Kg8-f8 Kc3-d2 Kf8-g8 Qb6-c6
Bf5-e4 Qc6-c3 Kg8-g7 Kd2-e1 Kg7-f8 Ke1-f2 Kf8-e7 Qc3-b4+ Ke7-f6 Qb4-a3
Kf6-g7 Qa3-a6 Kg7-h7 Qa6-b6 Be4-f5 Kf2-g3 Bf5-e4 Kg3-h4 Be4-f5 Qb6-b7
Kh7-g8 Qb7-a8+ Kg8-h7 Qa8-f8 Bf5-g6 Qf8-b8 Re5-e4 Kh4-g3 Re4-e5 Qb8-c7
Re5-g5+ Kg3-f2) -0.23/35 21} 27. Kc4 {(Kc3-c4 Kf8-g7 Kc4-b3 Kg7-g8 Qb6-d4
Re5-b5+ Kb3-a3 Rb5-e5 Qd4-g1+ Kg8-h7 Ka3-b2 Re5-e4 Nf4-d5 Re4-e5 Kb2-c3
Kh7-h6 Qg1-b6+ Kh6-g7 Qb6-f6+ Kg7-f8 Nd5-f4 Kf8-g8 Kc3-d2 Kg8-f8 Qf6-c6
Bf5-e4 Qc6-b6 Be4-f5 Qb6-d4 Kf8-g7 Kd2-c1 Kg7-f8 Kc1-b2 Bf5-e4 Qd4-b6
Be4-f5 Qb6-b8+ Kf8-e7) +0.51/35 13} Ke7 {(Kf8-e7 Kc4-c3 Ke7-f8 Qb6-b7
Kf8-g7 Qb7-c6 Kg7-f8 Qc6-b6 Kf8-e7 Nf4-h5 Re5-d5 Qb6-e3+ Ke7-f8 Qe3-a7
Rd5-e5 Qa7-a3+ Kf8-g8 Qa3-a8+ Kg8-h7 Qa8-g2 Kh7-h6 Nh5-f6 Re5-e6 Nf6-d5
Re6-e5 Qg2-g1 Bf5-g6 Nd5-f4 Bg6-f5 Kc3-b2 Kh6-h7 Qg1-g3 Re5-b5+ Kb2-c1
Rb5-e5 Kc1-d2 Kh7-h6 Qg3-g8 Re5-e4 Qg8xf7 Re4xf4 Qf7-c7 Kh6-g5) -0.13/41
78} 28. Kb3 {(Kc4-b3 Ke7-f8 Kb3-c3 Kf8-e7 Qb6-a7+ Ke7-f6 Qa7-d4 Bf5-e4
Qd4-b6+ Kf6-e7 Kc3-d2 Ke7-f8 Qb6-f6 Be4-f5 Qf6-c6 Bf5-e4 Qc6-d7 Be4-f5
Qd7-c7 Kf8-g7 Qc7-b6 Kg7-f8 Qb6-b4+ Kf8-g7 Qb4-c3 Bf5-e4 Qc3-h3 Be4-f5
Qh3-h2 Bf5-g6 Qh2-g1 Nf7-g5 Kd2-c1 Re5-f5 Qg1-d4+ Kg7-h7 Qd4-d6 Bg6-f7
Qd6-d3) +0.44/38 76} Bb1 {(Bf5-b1 Kb3-b2 Bb1-h7 Kb2-c3 Bh7-f5 Nf4-h5 Re5-d5
Kc3-b2 Rd5-d2+ Kb2-c1 Rd2-d6 Qb6-e3+ Ke7-f8 Qe3-f3 Bf5-d7 Qf3-f2 Kf8-e8
Kc1-b2 Ke8-e7 Qf2-e3+ Rd6-e6 Qe3-c5+ Re6-d6 Nh5-g3 Ke7-e8 Ng3-e4 Rd6-c6
Qc5-b4 Rc6-e6 Ne4-c5 Re6-d6 Qb4-b8+ Ke8-e7 Qb8-a7 Rd6-d5 Nc5xd7) -0.10/44
62} 29. Qb7+ {(Qb6-b7+ Ke7-f6 Qb7-c6+ Kf6-e7 Nf4-d5+ Ke7-f8 Nd5-f6 Kf8-e7
Kb3-b2 Bb1-f5 Nf6-d5+ Ke7-f8 Qc6-c5+ Kf8-g7 Qc5-d4 Kg7-f8 Nd5-f4 Kf8-e7
Qd4-b6 Bf5-e4 Kb2-c3 Be4-f5 Qb6-c6 Ke7-f8 Qc6-f6 Re5-c5+ Kc3-d2 Rc5-e5
Qf6-c6 Bf5-e4 Qc6-b6 Kf8-e7 Kd2-d1 Be4-f5 Kd1-c1 Ke7-f8 Kc1-b2 Bf5-e4
Qb6-c7 Be4-f5 Qc7-c6) +0.40/35 28} Kf6 {(Ke7-f6 Qb7-c6+ Kf6-e7 Kb3-c3
Bb1-f5 Nf4-h5 Bf5-d7 Qc6-f3 Bd7-c8 Kc3-d4 Ke7-f8 Qf3-a3+ Kf8-g8 Nh5-f4
Kg8-g7 Qa3-a8 Bc8-d7 Qa8-f3 Bd7-f5 Qf3-g2+ Kg7-f8 Nf4-h5 Re5-e4+ Kd4-c3
Re4-e5 Qg2-a8+ Kf8-e7 Qa8-b7+ Ke7-e6 Qb7-a7 Bf5-e4 Qa7-a6+ Ke6-e7 Nh5-f6
Nf7-d6 Qa6-b6) -0.02/36 26} 30. Qa6+ {(Qb7-a6+ Kf6-e7 Qa6-b6 Bb1-f5 Kb3-b2
Ke7-f8 Kb2-c3 Kf8-e7 Kc3-d2 Ke7-f8 Qb6-a7 Kf8-g7 Qa7-d4 Kg7-f6 Kd2-c1
Bf5-e4 Kc1-b2 Be4-f5 Kb2-c3 Kf6-g7 Qd4-f2 Kg7-f8 Qf2-g3 Kf8-e7 Kc3-d4
Ke7-d7 Nf4-d5 Re5-e4+ Kd4-c5 Re4-e5 Qg3-h4 Kd7-e8 Qh4-b4 Ke8-f8 Kc5-b6+
Kf8-g7 Qb4-d4) +0.39/36 56} Ke7 {(Kf6-e7 Kb3-c3 Bb1-f5 Qa6-a2 Ke7-f8
Qa2-a8+ Kf8-g7 Qa8-a6 Kg7-g8 Nf4-h5 Bf5-e6 Qa6-a8+ Kg8-h7 Qa8-h1 Be6-f5
Qh1-g1 Bf5-g6 Nh5-f4 Bg6-e4 Kc3-b4 Be4-f5 Nf4-d5 Bf5-g6 Nd5-f6+ Kh7-g7
Nf6-d7 Re5-f5 Qg1-g3 Rf5-g5 Qg3-c3+ Kg7-g8 Qc3-c8+ Kg8-h7 Nd7-f8+ Kh7-h6)
0.00/37 40} 31. Qb6 {(Qa6-b6 Bb1-f5 Kb3-b4 Re5-e4+ Kb4-a3 Re4-e5 Ka3-b2
Bf5-e4 Kb2-c3 Be4-f5 Qb6-a7+ Ke7-f6 Qa7-d4 Bf5-e4 Kc3-b4 Kf6-e7 Qd4-a7+
Ke7-f6 Qa7-c7 Be4-f5 Kb4-a3 Kf6-g5 Qc7-c1 Kg5-f6 Qc1-c3 Bf5-e4 Ka3-b4
Kf6-e7 Qc3-d4 Ke7-f6 Kb4-c3 Kf6-e7 Qd4-c4 Ke7-f6 Kc3-d4 Be4-f3) +0.33/32
21} Bf5 {(Bb1-f5 Kb3-b2 Bf5-e4 Qb6-a7+ Ke7-f6 Qa7-f2 Be4-f5 Qf2-h4+ Kf6-g7
Nf4-h5+ Kg7-f8 Qh4-b4+ Kf8-g8 Qb4-c3 Kg8-f8 Qc3-a3+ Kf8-g8 Qa3-a8+ Kg8-h7
Qa8-g2 Kh7-h6 Nh5-f4 Re5-b5+ Kb2-c3 Rb5-c5+ Kc3-d4 Rc5-e5 Nf4-d5 Bf5-e4
Qg2-h2+ Kh6-g7 Nd5-f4 Be4-f5 Nf4-h5+ Kg7-f8 Nh5-f6 Re5-a5 Nf6-d5 Ra5-a4+
Nd5-b4) 0.00/55 25} 32. Kc3 {(Kb3-c3 Bf5-e4 Kc3-d4 Be4-f5 Qb6-b4+ Ke7-f6
Nf4-d5+ Kf6-g7 Qb4-c3 Re5-e4+ Kd4-c5+ Re4-e5 Kc5-b4 Kg7-h7 Qc3-c6 Kh7-g7
Kb4-c3 Bf5-e4 Qc6-f6+ Kg7-g8 Nd5-f4 Be4-f5 Nf4-h5 Kg8-f8 Qf6-a6 Re5-e3+
Kc3-b2 Re3-e4 Qa6-a3+ Re4-e7 Kb2-a1 Bf5-g6 Nh5-f4 Nf7-e5 Nf4-e6+ Kf8-f7
Ne6-g5+ Kf7-e8) +0.32/33 23} Kf8 {(Ke7-f8 Qb6-f6 Re5-c5+ Kc3-d2 Rc5-e5)
0.00/55 23} 33. Nh5 {(Nf4-h5 Kf8-e7 Qb6-c7+ Ke7-e6 Qc7-a7 Bf5-e4 Nh5-f4+
Ke6-f6 Qa7-b6+ Kf6-e7 Qb6-b8 Ke7-f6 Kc3-d4 Be4-f3 Nf4-d3 Re5-d5+ Kd4-e3
Rd5-d6 Nd3-f4 Bf3-g4 Qb8-b4 Bg4-f5 Qb4-c3+ Kf6-e7 Qc3-c5 Bf5-d7 Ke3-f2
Ke7-e8 Nf4-d5 Ke8-f8 Nd5-f6 Kf8-g7 Nf6-h5+ Kg7-g6) +0.32/32 9} Bc8 {(Bf5-c8
Qb6-b4+ Kf8-g8 Nh5-f6+ Kg8-g7 Qb4-b6 Bc8-e6 Nf6-e8+ Kg7-g8 Ne8-d6 Kg8-f8
Qb6-c6 Kf8-g7 Nd6-e8+ Kg7-f8) 0.00/59 25} 34. Qb4+ {(Qb6-b4+ Kf8-g8 Nh5-f4
Bc8-f5 Qb4-d4 Kg8-f8 Nf4-d5 Kf8-g7 Nd5-e3 Bf5-e6 Ne3-g2 Kg7-g8 Qd4-b6
Kg8-g7 Ng2-f4 Kg7-f6 Kc3-c2 Kf6-f5 Nf4-d3 Re5-e4 Nd3-f2 Re4-c4+ Kc2-d2
Nf7-g5 Nf2-d3 Rc4-e4 Kd2-c1 Kf5-g6 Qb6-d6 Ng5-f7 Qd6-g3+ Kg6-h6 Qg3-h2+
Kh6-g6) +0.22/32 537} Kg8 {(Kf8-g8 Nh5-f6+ Kg8-g7 Qb4-b6 Bc8-e6 Nf6-e8+
Kg7-g8 Ne8-d6 Kg8-f8 Qb6-c6 Kf8-g7 Nd6-e8+ Kg7-f8) 0.00/70 143} 35. Nf4
{(Nh5-f4 Bc8-f5 Qb4-d4 Bf5-e4 Kc3-c4 Re5-g5 Qd4-f6 Be4-f5 Nf4-d5 Kg8-f8
Qf6-e7+ Kf8-g7 Kc4-c5 Bf5-g4 Qe7-e4 Bg4-h3 Kc5-b4 Rg5-e5 Qe4-d4 Bh3-f5
Nd5-f4 Kg7-h7 Kb4-a3 Re5-a5+ Ka3-b3 Ra5-e5 Qd4-f2 Re5-b5+ Kb3-a3 Kh7-g7
Qf2-g1+ Kg7-f6) +0.20/33 589} Bf5 {(Bc8-f5 Qb4-b8+) -0.08/71 503} *[/pgn]
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Re: Black to move, can White win without using EGTB ?

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For such experiment you must disable 50 move rule draw (in engines and in chess GUI too).
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Re: Black to move, can White win without using EGTB ?

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Lazy_Frank wrote: Fri Jul 15, 2022 5:57 am For such experiment you must disable 50 move rule draw (in engines and in chess GUI too).
Already did it, but thanks for reminding me, in case that I forgot. I should have selected this position instead, which is the longest, but somebody else can test this one.
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Re: Black to move, can White win without using EGTB ?

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[quote=Chessqueen post_id=930250 time=1657855539 user_id=10732]
In reality this is an experiment that I have going on, this position with 7-pieces EGTB takes 517 moves for White to mate, but since Top Engines are so close of finding perfect moves without EGTB I was wondering if either Komodo Dragon or Stockfish 15 can find mate with White in no more than 520 or even 530 moves. his ending is in progress to find out. The experiment is over, without the 7-pieces EGTB it took 529 moves for Komodo Dragon to win with White, therefore, it is a matter of time, in which with the 7-pieces EGTB it can be solved faster without delay, but todays top engines even without EGTB they can play almost perfect and the end result would almost always be the same for the side that has the small advantage. My final conclusion, NOT everybody here has a large Hard Drive with enough storage to store the 7- pieces EGTB, and only engines that do NOT have great endgame knowledge really them to find a sure win or Draw, but if you use the top 4 engines you really are not missing too many moves to get the same result.

Next I will let Stockfish without EGTB to play with the White pieces to see in how many moves it can find this 7-pieces 549 moves Win. Hopefully in less than 560 moves :roll: ==>
[pgn][Event "No7-pieces EGTB"]
[Site "DESKTOP-OFQ3C0P"]
[Date "2022.07.14"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Dragon-2.6.1-64bit-avx2"]
[Black "Stockfish-15-64bit-avx2"]
[Result "*"]
[BlackElo "3555"]
[Time "18:31:34"]
[WhiteElo "3545"]
[TimeControl "7200+5"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "8/1r6/8/6n1/5k2/1b6/3K3N/7Q b - - 0 1"]
[Termination "unterminated"]
[PlyCount "64"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"][/pgn]