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The Elshad System for White

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A few days ago I received a notification for a free book from Forward Chess. Never heard of the book before, but hey it was free. :wink: After downloading it I fired it up. It appears to be targeted at speed players and guess what, I play allot of blitz online. That plus the fact that I like off beat openings was all I needed to try it. I have had so much fun with this crap over the last few days! :lol: I might even buy his book for black.

Update: I just purchased his other book: The Elshad System

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Re: The Elshad System for White

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Interesting. Certainly gives chances for open system similar to scandinavian for Black.
Have you come across any such quirky system for Black against d4? Most of the defense arising of openings for play against d4 are either Semi-closed or Closed, except perhaps Dutch.
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Re: The Elshad System for White

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Well when looking into this system, I found out about his other book, 'The Elshad System' which covers his system for black. I learned about it by coming across this video. Take a look, it was a crazy weird game. His system seems to require that you forget most about how to handle the openings in general.



PS: When you watch the video, you will see that white opens with e4, because I bought the other book I can tell he plays the same type of system with black. See game below for d4.

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[Event "?"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2022.09.11"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Kretschmer"]
[Black "Nemtsv"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "A40"]

1.d4 c6 2.c4 d6 3.Nc3 Nd7 4.e4 h6 5.f4 g5 6.fxg5 Bg7 7.gxh6 Nxh6 8.Nf3 Nf8 9.Bg5 Ne6 10.Be3 Ng4 11.Qd2 Nxe3 12.Qxe3 Qb6 13.Rd1 Qxb2 14.Be2 Bh6 15.Qd3 Nf4 16.Qd2 Nxg2+ 0-1
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Re: The Elshad System for White

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Playing OTB in mostly G/45 to G/60.... 4-5 games per day, my thoughts also turned to unorthodox openings (mostly with White). I was playing rather a lot of 'up and commers', outplaying them with my trusty 1.g3 of 20+ years...only to fall behind a bit on the clock and blunder things away. I had hit my ratings floor and must say I gained 115 points or so in short order with the approach. Then COVID hit...

Online I started playing these as well - almost entirely in 3 min/0 delay games. I only played 2 games online yesterday (chess.com). One as White against a 2427 Blitz/2550 Bullet player. I opened 1. Nc3 play followed 1...d5, 2.e4 d4, 3. Nce2 and we went into a line I've played as White (even black since I play the Scandinavian) countless times. Checkmate followed on move 33.

OTB I played this for about 2 yrs before gravitating to 1.e3. Both quite successfully. I love teasing out specific hard to navigate lines/transpositions if one is not familiar with the positions that result.

While none of this is as weird and dubious as the Elshad stuff, the point may be similar to yours (?): get your opponents out of their favorite lines and patterns and make them think. Memorizing specific cutting edge lines to anything an opponent might play was never my forte, and at 58 and relatively lazy...well...I'd rather spend my time doing other things.
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Re: The Elshad System for White

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CornfedForever wrote: Sun Sep 11, 2022 6:45 pm Playing OTB in mostly G/45 to G/60.... 4-5 games per day, my thoughts also turned to unorthodox openings (mostly with White). I was playing rather a lot of 'up and commers', outplaying them with my trusty 1.g3 of 20+ years...only to fall behind a bit on the clock and blunder things away. I had hit my ratings floor and must say I gained 115 points or so in short order with the approach. Then COVID hit...

Online I started playing these as well - almost entirely in 3 min/0 delay games. I only played 2 games online yesterday (chess.com). One as White against a 2427 Blitz/2550 Bullet player. I opened 1. Nc3 play followed 1...d5, 2.e4 d4, 3. Nce2 and we went into a line I've played as White (even black since I play the Scandinavian) countless times. Checkmate followed on move 33.

OTB I played this for about 2 yrs before gravitating to 1.e3. Both quite successfully. I love teasing out specific hard to navigate lines/transpositions if one is not familiar with the positions that result.

While none of this is as weird and dubious as the Elshad stuff, the point may be similar to yours (?): get your opponents out of their favorite lines and patterns and make them think. Memorizing specific cutting edge lines to anything an opponent might play was never my forte, and at 58 and relatively lazy...well...I'd rather spend my time doing other things.
'I do agree with you! That makes sense.

A top player I know of, is rated around 2900-3000 in Blitz/Bullet at Lichess, but he had finished in the 60th percentile in recently concluded World Fischer Random Chess Selection event that is currently ongoing in Lichess. That took me by great surprise. How can someone who is near 99.9 percentile end up finishing in 60th percentile after over 70 games in a gruelling 4 hour marathon?

FRC must be really different that it could make skills gained from Chess partly redundant. Am not sure if that happens with every top players though. But it definitely does skew the performance expected of certain players, by a large margin.
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Re: The Elshad System for White

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That's a really bold way to develop pieces in openings I must admit, I would dare not move those king side pawns, much less offer them up for exchange leaving the king stranded there. I would rather play this system with white pieces If given a chance :-)
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Re: The Elshad System for White

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CornfedForever wrote: Sun Sep 11, 2022 6:45 pm Playing OTB in mostly G/45 to G/60.... 4-5 games per day, my thoughts also turned to unorthodox openings (mostly with White). I was playing rather a lot of 'up and commers', outplaying them with my trusty 1.g3 of 20+ years...only to fall behind a bit on the clock and blunder things away. I had hit my ratings floor and must say I gained 115 points or so in short order with the approach. Then COVID hit...

Online I started playing these as well - almost entirely in 3 min/0 delay games. I only played 2 games online yesterday (chess.com). One as White against a 2427 Blitz/2550 Bullet player. I opened 1. Nc3 play followed 1...d5, 2.e4 d4, 3. Nce2 and we went into a line I've played as White (even black since I play the Scandinavian) countless times. Checkmate followed on move 33.

OTB I played this for about 2 yrs before gravitating to 1.e3. Both quite successfully. I love teasing out specific hard to navigate lines/transpositions if one is not familiar with the positions that result.

While none of this is as weird and dubious as the Elshad stuff, the point may be similar to yours (?): get your opponents out of their favorite lines and patterns and make them think. Memorizing specific cutting edge lines to anything an opponent might play was never my forte, and at 58 and relatively lazy...well...I'd rather spend my time doing other things.
Reading your comments you sound like my twin brother from another mother. :lol: Man can I relate!
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Re: The Elshad System for White

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swami wrote: Sun Sep 11, 2022 8:48 pm That's a really bold way to develop pieces in openings I must admit, I would dare not move those king side pawns, much less offer them up for exchange leaving the king stranded there. I would rather play this system with white pieces If given a chance :-)
Yeah I know right, crazy as hell. Can make for some really fun games in blitz, at least if you stop caring about the scoreboard. :lol:
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Re: The Elshad System for White

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Here is a playlist how Elshad himself plays it on Lichess. Looks at first very random but it isn't



His Lichess account

https://lichess.org/@/Elshad_64
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purechess wrote: Mon Sep 12, 2022 6:05 pm Here is a playlist how Elshad himself plays it on Lichess. Looks at first very random but it isn't



His Lichess account

https://lichess.org/@/Elshad_64
Thanks, I watched the 1st game of the 1st video in the playlist. All I can say is I wish I could play that fast at 3 minute blitz as he did, especially with all that background chatter going on at the same time. :D I did add him to my follow list.

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[Event "Lichess Bundesliga Team Battle"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/ts9DWUfs"]
[Date "2022.06.19"]
[White "AtalikS"]
[Black "Elshad_64"]
[Result "0-1"]
[UTCDate "2022.06.19"]
[UTCTime "18:55:07"]
[WhiteElo "2720"]
[BlackElo "2258"]
[WhiteRatingDiff "-10"]
[BlackRatingDiff "+11"]
[WhiteTitle "GM"]
[Variant "Standard"]
[TimeControl "300+0"]
[ECO "A40"]
[Opening "Queen's Pawn Game: Anglo-Slav Opening"]
[Termination "Normal"]
[Annotator "lichess.org"]

1. d4 c6 2. c4 d6?! { (0.13 → 0.95) Inaccuracy. d5 was best. } { A40 Queen's Pawn Game: Anglo-Slav Opening } (2... d5 3. Nf3 Nf6 4. e3 Bf5 5. Bd3 Bxd3 6. Qxd3 h6 7. Nbd2) 3. e4 Nd7 4. Nc3 h6 5. Nf3 g5?! { (1.17 → 1.76) Inaccuracy. e5 was best. } (5... e5 6. Be2 Ne7 7. O-O Ng6 8. Be3 Be7 9. Qc2 O-O 10. Rad1) 6. Be2 Bg7 7. O-O?! { (1.75 → 1.14) Inaccuracy. Be3 was best. } (7. Be3 Ngf6 8. h4 g4 9. Nh2 c5 10. Nxg4 Nxg4 11. Bxg4 cxd4) 7... Nf8 8. Ne1 Ng6 9. Nc2?! { (1.30 → 0.63) Inaccuracy. Be3 was best. } (9. Be3 Nf6 10. f3 O-O 11. Qd2 e5 12. Rd1 Qe7 13. g3 Bh3 14. Rf2 Ne8 15. d5 c5) 9... Nf6 10. g3 g4? { (0.58 → 1.81) Mistake. Bh3 was best. } (10... Bh3 11. Re1 e6 12. a4 O-O 13. a5 c5 14. Be3 Qe7 15. f3 Nd7 16. Bf2 Rad8 17. Qd2) 11. Ne3 h5 12. Nf5 Bxf5 13. exf5 Nf8 14. Bd3 N8d7 15. Bg5 Ng8?! { (0.88 → 1.54) Inaccuracy. c5 was best. } (15... c5 16. dxc5) 16. Ne2 Qb6 17. Qb3?! { (1.46 → 0.35) Inaccuracy. a4 was best. } (17. a4 a5) 17... Bxd4?? { (0.35 → 2.49) Blunder. c5 was best. } (17... c5) 18. Nxd4 Qxd4 19. Be3 Qf6 20. Qxb7 Rb8?! { (2.56 → 4.11) Inaccuracy. Rd8 was best. } (20... Rd8 21. Be4) 21. Qxa7 c5 22. Be4 h4 23. Bc6 Rd8 24. b4 Qxf5 25. bxc5 dxc5 26. Rfd1?? { (5.55 → 2.73) Blunder. Rae1 was best. } (26. Rae1 h3 27. a4 Rc8 28. Qb7 Rxc6 29. Qxc6 Kf8 30. Bf4 Kg7 31. Qe4 Qxe4 32. Rxe4 e6) 26... Nf6 27. Rab1?? { (2.64 → -0.68) Blunder. gxh4 was best. } (27. gxh4 O-O) 27... hxg3?! { (-0.68 → 0.27) Inaccuracy. O-O was best. } (27... O-O) 28. hxg3 Kf8?? { (0.34 → 2.57) Blunder. O-O was best. } (28... O-O 29. Bf4) 29. Rb7?? { (2.57 → -3.69) Blunder. Bxc5 was best. } (29. Bxc5 Re8 30. Bd4 e5 31. Be3 Rd8 32. Bg2 Kg7 33. c5 e4 34. c6 Ne5 35. Rxd8 Rxd8) 29... Kg7 30. Bg2? { (-3.63 → -7.23) Mistake. Re1 was best. } (30. Re1 Ne5) 30... Ne5 31. Rxd8 Rxd8 32. Qa4?! { (-13.37 → Mate in 10) Checkmate is now unavoidable. Bd4 was best. } (32. Bd4 Rxd4) 32... Nf3+ 33. Bxf3 Qxf3? { (Mate in 10 → -7.38) Lost forced checkmate sequence. gxf3 was best. } (33... gxf3 34. Bh6+ Kxh6 35. Qb3 Qh5 36. Rxe7 Ng4 37. Qb6+ f6 38. Rh7+ Kxh7 39. Qb7+ Kg8 40. Qd5+) 34. Rb1? { (-7.38 → Mate in 3) Checkmate is now unavoidable. Qb3 was best. } (34. Qb3 e5 35. Re7 Rd1+ 36. Qxd1 Qxd1+ 37. Kh2 Qd6 38. Rb7 Ne4 39. a4 Qd1 40. a5 Qe2) 34... Rh8 { White resigns. } 0-1
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[pgn]
[Event "Лига Шахматных Стримеров - 2 Arena"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/l1EP82aR"]
[Date "2021.02.06"]
[White "Elshad_64"]
[Black "venajalainen"]
[Result "1-0"]
[UTCDate "2021.02.06"]
[UTCTime "16:57:10"]
[WhiteElo "2285"]
[BlackElo "2796"]
[WhiteRatingDiff "+14"]
[BlackRatingDiff "-11"]
[BlackTitle "GM"]
[Variant "Standard"]
[TimeControl "180+1"]
[ECO "A00"]
[Opening "Saragossa Opening"]
[Termination "Normal"]
[Annotator "lichess.org"]

1. c3 { A00 Saragossa Opening } e5 2. d3?! { (0.13 → -0.63) Inaccuracy. d4 was best. } (2. d4 e4 3. Bf4 Nf6 4. e3 d5 5. Ne2 Be6 6. c4 dxc4) 2... d5 3. Nd2 Nf6 4. h3 Nc6?! { (-0.96 → -0.25) Inaccuracy. c5 was best. } (4... c5 5. e4 Nc6 6. Ne2 Be6 7. Ng3 Qc7 8. Be2 Be7 9. O-O) 5. g4?! { (-0.25 → -0.97) Inaccuracy. e4 was best. } (5. e4 Bc5 6. Be2 a5 7. Ngf3 O-O 8. O-O h6 9. Re1 Be6) 5... h6 6. Bg2 Be6 7. Nf1 Bd6 8. Qa4 Qd7 9. Ne3?! { (-1.30 → -2.04) Inaccuracy. Nf3 was best. } (9. Nf3 a6) 9... a6 10. Nf3 b5 11. Qc2 Ne7 12. g5 hxg5?! { (-1.56 → -0.91) Inaccuracy. Nh5 was best. } (12... Nh5) 13. Nxg5 c6 14. Nxe6 Qxe6 15. h4 Ng6?? { (-1.00 → 0.72) Blunder. Nh5 was best. } (15... Nh5 16. Nf1 a5 17. Bf3 a4 18. Bxh5 Rxh5 19. e4 a3 20. b3 Rh8 21. h5 d4 22. cxd4) 16. Bh3 Rxh4 17. Bxe6 Rxh1+ 18. Nf1 fxe6 19. Bg5?! { (0.86 → -0.14) Inaccuracy. Be3 was best. } (19. Be3) 19... Kf7 20. O-O-O Rah8 21. e3?? { (0.27 → -2.47) Blunder. c4 was best. } (21. c4 Ne7) 21... R8h3?? { (-2.47 → 0.00) Blunder. Nh7 was best. } (21... Nh7) 22. Bxf6 gxf6 23. Ng3 Rxd1+?! { (-0.50 → 0.21) Inaccuracy. R1h2 was best. } (23... R1h2) 24. Qxd1 f5 25. Qf1 Rh2 26. Qg1 Rh4 27. Ne2 e4 28. d4 Rg4 29. Qf1 Rh4 30. b4?! { (-0.08 → -0.68) Inaccuracy. a4 was best. } (30. a4 bxa4) 30... Rh8 31. Kb2?! { (-0.16 → -1.12) Inaccuracy. a4 was best. } (31. a4 bxa4 32. Kb2 Ne7 33. Ka3 a5 34. Qd1 Rb8 35. Nf4 Bxf4 36. exf4 axb4+ 37. cxb4 Rh8) 31... a5?? { (-1.12 → 0.70) Blunder. Rh2 was best. } (31... Rh2 32. Kc1) 32. bxa5 Ra8 33. Qh3 Rxa5?? { (0.87 → 2.80) Blunder. Kg7 was best. } (33... Kg7 34. Ng3) 34. Qh7+ Kf6 35. Ng1?? { (2.70 → 0.51) Blunder. Qd7 was best. } (35. Qd7 Ba3+ 36. Kb3 Be7 37. Qxc6 f4 38. exf4 Ra3+ 39. Kb2 b4 40. c4 e3 41. f3 dxc4) 35... Ra8 36. Kb3?! { (0.59 → 0.00) Inaccuracy. Qd7 was best. } (36. Qd7) 36... Be7 37. Qh2 c5?! { (0.16 → 0.86) Inaccuracy. Rh8 was best. } (37... Rh8) 38. dxc5 Bxc5 39. Ne2 Ne5?? { (0.46 → 5.21) Blunder. e5 was best. } (39... e5) 40. Qh4+?! { (5.21 → 3.63) Inaccuracy. Qh6+ was best. } (40. Qh6+ Ke7 41. Nf4 Ra3+ 42. Kc2 Rxa2+ 43. Kb1 Rb2+ 44. Kxb2 Nd3+ 45. Nxd3 exd3 46. Kc1 d2+) 40... Kf7?! { (3.63 → 5.25) Inaccuracy. Kg7 was best. } (40... Kg7 41. Nf4) 41. Nf4 Ra3+ 42. Kb2?? { (5.25 → 0.12) Blunder. Kc2 was best. } (42. Kc2 Rxa2+ 43. Kb1 Rb2+ 44. Kxb2 Nd3+ 45. Nxd3 exd3 46. Kc1 Be7 47. Qh5+ Kf6 48. Qh8+ Kf7) 42... Nc4+?? { (0.12 → 5.34) Blunder. Nd3+ was best. } (42... Nd3+ 43. Nxd3 exd3 44. Qh7+ Kf6 45. Qh2 Kf7 46. f3 b4 47. Qc7+ Be7 48. cxb4 d2 49. Kc2) 43. Kb1 Rxc3 44. Qh7+ Ke8 45. Qg8+ Kd7 46. Qxe6+ Kd8 47. Qxd5+ Bd6 48. Qg8+ Kd7 49. Qf7+ Kc6 50. Qd5+ Kb6 51. Qxf5?? { (6.22 → 0.00) Blunder. Qd4+ was best. } (51. Qd4+ Kc6 52. Qxc3 Be5 53. Qe1 Bxf4 54. exf4 Kc5 55. Qc3 b4 56. Qf6 e3 57. Qxf5+ Kd4) 51... Ka5? { (0.00 → 1.66) Mistake. Nd2+ was best. } (51... Nd2+ 52. Kb2 Rc6 53. Ne2 Nc4+ 54. Kb1 Nd2+) 52. Qf6? { (1.66 → 0.34) Mistake. Qd5 was best. } (52. Qd5 Bxf4) 52... Be5?? { (0.34 → 4.98) Blunder. Nd2+ was best. } (52... Nd2+ 53. Kb2 Rc7 54. Ng6 Ka4 55. Qd4+ Nc4+ 56. Kc2 Rf7 57. Nf4 Bxf4 58. exf4 Rxf4 59. Qa7+) 53. Qd8+ Ka4 54. Qa8+ Kb4 55. Nd5+ Kc5 56. Nxc3 Bxc3 57. Kc2 Be5 58. Qxe4 { Black resigns. } 1-0
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