Eduard wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 7:22 pm
I have now deactivated Fritz 19 and then uninstalled it.
Yes, you don't belong to the illustrious circle of customers being courted.
Chessbase is happy to do without a few computer chess players.
But you already knew that for about 40 years
And I can certainly do without a message like this one: “you need a serial number to enter this room”.
It's like they don't spend any time at all testing their product. I could immediately tell it was going to be a sloppy release when I looked my engine installed list and see that they were no longer listed alphabetically like they are in my Fritz 17 release, it was reversed. It wasn't until I opened my Fritz 17 release, closed it then went back to Fritz 19 to see the list was now in alphabetical order. Sloppy..
The last GUI they tested properly is probably Fritz 15, the last one of the classical menu, and the most bugless one. I'm still using it. The only downside of it is that I'm using Chessbase 17 and the new database format don't match with Fritz who only use .cbh bases, so I manually convert Fritz databases to Chessbase 2cbh Databases.
Another problem of the Fritz GUI is that some analysis options like "Monte-Carlo Analysis" are only can be used with Fritz 16 engine and not with 17 or 18 or 19 or 13 or literally anything else without a reason, stupidest restriction I've ever saw. I'm sure this new Fritz 19 has a lot of downsides too, I'm not going to pay a cent for that. If I want to play different styles, I'll just go use Chess.com bots made from Dragon personalities, nowadays they make mistakes for us to win too, so nothing is new with Fritz 19 actually.
The Fritz 19 GUI works more smoothly (faster) than GUI 18, that's a fact. Copying games to another database is also faster, even in CBH format. If you don't have a ChessBase program but work with databases, GUI 19 is better (2CBH format is also supported). Personally, I like the dark mode (I use the gray style). I didn't find Dark Mode at first because I searched for the term "Dark Mode". I study a lot of games live on the server, and dark mode is the better choice, especially at night. I hope that the bugs that are known will be fixed soon. As a server player, it's nice for me to have 6 months of premium access. The weakest is the Fritz 19 engine. This is not appropriate for the price of 90 euros. There are better free engines (not just Stockfish) that are better, Berserk for example. In the CEGT list, Ginkgo is well behind many amateur engines. Even if the playing level is sufficient for hobby players who don't analyze much, the price is still too high. Advertising with the slogan World Champion Program is a joke because as soon as a buyer becomes more informed he will feel disappointed.
Eduard wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 9:37 am
Fritz 19 was released. ChessBase presented the chess program Fritz 19 today. Is it worth buying? My answer is NO. The reason is --> HERE. I have purchased all of the newer Fritz chess programs. Today it is November 2023, but I am still playing on the PlayChess.com server with a Fritz 18 update from August 2022. Reason: All newer updates have a Syzygy BUG! I reported about it in detail --> HERE (Talkchess Forum): viewtopic.php?f=2&t=82242
I'm still waiting for this BUG to be corrected. I also own the database program ChessBase 16, but this BUG is also present here. I don't know whether Fritz 19 no longer has this BUG, but as a buyer of Fritz 18, Powerfritz 18 and CB 16, I would like to have BUG-free software that I have already purchased.
Engine Fritz 19: In my tests with Powerfritz 18, this engine landed in last place in my position test. And nothing could be gained on the Fritz server PlayChess.com, there were almost only losses. Fritz 19 is advertised as computer chess world champion (like Powerfritz 18). You have to know: Only 4 chess programs played at the WCCC 2023, which on normal hardware have no chance against Stockfish, Lc0 or Komodo-Dragon.
Arasan: 24 cores
Fritz: 2x Boston AMD Epyc 9654 (2×96 cores) overclocked; 1.5TB Ram
Jonny: Cluster of 100 x AMD Epyc 7302 (100×32 cores)
Stoofvlees: AMD Threadripper Pro 5995wx (64 cores, 128 threads); 4x nVidia RTX 4090 256GB Ram
There were 4 engines playing for three world champions titles! The hardware was also partly utopian. If you want to convince yourself that Fritz has absolutely no chance against Stockfish on normal hardware, please buy Fritz 19 and then go to the Fritz server PlayChess.com to play with it. You won't have much fun. I'm sorry.
As anyone come to any firm conclusions regarding Fritz 19. Particularly as a playing/ training tool. Fritz 18 / 19 advertise their use as a sparing partner and now we have these personalities. I have various Fritz entities and they all have sparing / personalities included, Are the latest versions improvements or just 'more of the same'. Basically are the latest products worth buying and is it better as a playing tool. My last Fritz was 14.
Very nice, I haven't got the time to test it myself yet, but have played some games against Hiarcs, who also have a swindle mode and went from completly winning to losing in a few moves.
Anyway you got "Black=0.18 (very precise)"
Is the comment by Fritz.
cc2150dx wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 2:39 am
Engine vs engine match. No evaluation line after Fritz 19 completes it's move (it just goes blank) This happens to both sides no matter what engine I use. Does anyone else have this issue or way to fix it ?
This issue is not there in Fritz 18 GUI.
You have to activate Scroll main line, Extra search info --> see photo:
Thanks...that's somewhat a workaround to the issue. Even I have tinkered around with different settings. It's still not the same as it should be. I have sent a ticket to Chessbase.
Yes, you are right. Here is a BUG. On the PlayChess server, only one own move is displayed when pondering (not a whole variant) and a variant is only displayed if the opponent does not make a pondered move.
