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Re: New Berserk soon?

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sarona wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 10:52 pm bmi2 build could be faster on your Intel CPU.
Where can I get the bmi2 version, can you make it available ?
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Re: New Berserk soon?

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Of course. I will post it this weekend.
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sarona wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 11:39 pm Of course. I will post it this weekend.
You have high hope that the newer Berserk will be stronger than Dragon 3.3 ?
1 Stockfish 20230613 64-bit 4CPU 3640 +13 −13 62.2% −75.9 75.5% 1698
2 Torch v1 64-bit 4CPU 3625 +12 −12 59.4% −57.7 79.8% 1869
3 Dragon by Komodo 3.3 64-bit 4CPU 3624 +13 −13 59.3% −58.2 78.9% 1504
4 Berserk 12 64-bit 4CPU 3606 +14 −14 56.0% −36.6 83.6% 1435
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Re: New Berserk soon?

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Chessqueen wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 2:17 am
sarona wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 11:39 pm Of course. I will post it this weekend.
You have high hope that the newer Berserk will be stronger than Dragon 3.3 ?
1 Stockfish 20230613 64-bit 4CPU 3640 +13 −13 62.2% −75.9 75.5% 1698
2 Torch v1 64-bit 4CPU 3625 +12 −12 59.4% −57.7 79.8% 1869
3 Dragon by Komodo 3.3 64-bit 4CPU 3624 +13 −13 59.3% −58.2 78.9% 1504
4 Berserk 12 64-bit 4CPU 3606 +14 −14 56.0% −36.6 83.6% 1435
I do not see high hopes for it.

Berserk 12 64 bit 4 CPU probably has only a similiar strength to Dragon by Komodo 3.3 64-bit 1 CPU
I find in the complete ccrl rating list that has all these engines also
Dragon by Komodo 3.3 64-bit 3607 +10 −10 60.9% −67.8 75.8% 2393

see
https://computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/4040/ ... t_all.html
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Re: New Berserk soon?

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Chessqueen wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 2:17 am
sarona wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 11:39 pm Of course. I will post it this weekend.
You have high hope that the newer Berserk will be stronger than Dragon 3.3 ?
1 Stockfish 20230613 64-bit 4CPU 3640 +13 −13 62.2% −75.9 75.5% 1698
2 Torch v1 64-bit 4CPU 3625 +12 −12 59.4% −57.7 79.8% 1869
3 Dragon by Komodo 3.3 64-bit 4CPU 3624 +13 −13 59.3% −58.2 78.9% 1504
4 Berserk 12 64-bit 4CPU 3606 +14 −14 56.0% −36.6 83.6% 1435
No.

But that doesn't matter to me. I assume most amateur chess engine authors have professions and families that require much of their time.

About a year ago, I began to take more interest in engines other than Stockfish (for the record: I am NOT frustrated with Stockfish development. On the contrary, I think they are doing a fantastic job). Mainly Lc0, but now many of the engines in CCRL Division one and two. I do not have much interest in Stockfish clones (sorry, Draude [sarcasm]) anymore.

Here are your binaries, I promised. I modified the makefile to get rid of the previous dll issue.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1H5yFe5 ... sp=sharing
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Re: New Berserk soon?

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sarona wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 5:17 pm
Chessqueen wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 2:17 am
sarona wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 11:39 pm Of course. I will post it this weekend.
You have high hope that the newer Berserk will be stronger than Dragon 3.3 ?
1 Stockfish 20230613 64-bit 4CPU 3640 +13 −13 62.2% −75.9 75.5% 1698
2 Torch v1 64-bit 4CPU 3625 +12 −12 59.4% −57.7 79.8% 1869
3 Dragon by Komodo 3.3 64-bit 4CPU 3624 +13 −13 59.3% −58.2 78.9% 1504
4 Berserk 12 64-bit 4CPU 3606 +14 −14 56.0% −36.6 83.6% 1435
No.

But that doesn't matter to me. I assume most amateur chess engine authors have professions and families that require much of their time.

About a year ago, I began to take more interest in engines other than Stockfish (for the record: I am NOT frustrated with Stockfish development. On the contrary, I think they are doing a fantastic job). Mainly Lc0, but now many of the engines in CCRL Division one and two. I do not have much interest in Stockfish clones (sorry, Draude [sarcasm]) anymore.

Here are your binaries, I promised. I modified the makefile to get rid of the previous dll issue.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1H5yFe5 ... sp=sharing
I did a mini match between the latest release and your version and did NOT noticed any big difference in long time control :roll:

1: Berserk_20240311_64_avx-bmi2 12.0/24 ························ ======================== 144.00
1: Berserk-20240318 avx-pext 12.0/24 ======================== ························ 144.00

24 games played / Tournament is finished
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Re: New Berserk soon?

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sarona wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 5:17 pm
Chessqueen wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 2:17 am
sarona wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 11:39 pm Of course. I will post it this weekend.
You have high hope that the newer Berserk will be stronger than Dragon 3.3 ?
1 Stockfish 20230613 64-bit 4CPU 3640 +13 −13 62.2% −75.9 75.5% 1698
2 Torch v1 64-bit 4CPU 3625 +12 −12 59.4% −57.7 79.8% 1869
3 Dragon by Komodo 3.3 64-bit 4CPU 3624 +13 −13 59.3% −58.2 78.9% 1504
4 Berserk 12 64-bit 4CPU 3606 +14 −14 56.0% −36.6 83.6% 1435
No.

But that doesn't matter to me. I assume most amateur chess engine authors have professions and families that require much of their time.

About a year ago, I began to take more interest in engines other than Stockfish (for the record: I am NOT frustrated with Stockfish development. On the contrary, I think they are doing a fantastic job). Mainly Lc0, but now many of the engines in CCRL Division one and two. I do not have much interest in Stockfish clones (sorry, Draude [sarcasm]) anymore.

Here are your binaries, I promised. I modified the makefile to get rid of the previous dll issue.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1H5yFe5 ... sp=sharing
Thank you Ron!

I agree, only who adds HIS code to the engine sources (not only changes few values) can be proud of his contribute to the chess community. I'm very grateful to MZ, Andrea Manzo and Joseph Ellis for sharing their Stockfish derivatives (just re-enabled MZ account on Banksiagui despite the fact that he hates me :cry: thanking him for sharing HypnoS that is very stable, strong and a true improvement of latest Stockfish (all people is using it on Playchess :D )

TRUE geniuses are all the original engines authors Andrew Grant, Jay Honnold and Andreas Matthies that have almost reached Stockfish strenght, but I'm grateful also to all amateur engines authors.
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AlexChess wrote: Sun Mar 24, 2024 10:07 am TRUE geniuses are all the original engines authors Andrew Grant, Jay Honnold and Andreas Matthies that have almost reached Stockfish strenght, but I'm grateful also to all amateur engines authors.
Please delete my name from this list. No genius, just hard working amateur.
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RubiChess wrote: Sun Mar 24, 2024 10:26 am
AlexChess wrote: Sun Mar 24, 2024 10:07 am TRUE geniuses are all the original engines authors Andrew Grant, Jay Honnold and Andreas Matthies that have almost reached Stockfish strenght, but I'm grateful also to all amateur engines authors.
Please delete my name from this list. No genius, just hard working amateur.
Thank you for sharing your hobby with us :)
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Re: New Berserk soon?

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Sarona Berserk compile is stronger than Dragon 3 on my machine.
Sarona Berserk is the strongest Berserk version on my machine.
Congrats to the Berserk team.
Berserk 031824 is Berserk 20240318 from Sarona.

13th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-13900H 2.60 GHz
Windows 11
Hash 128MB
Time 60+.06 sec
TopGM6move.pgn

ELO
# PLAYER : RATING ERROR PLAYED (%) OppAvg D(%)
1 Berserk 031824 : 3808 11 2000 53.3 3785 75.5
2 Dragon 3.3 : 3785 ---- 2000 46.7 3808 75.5

CUTECHESS
Score of Berserk 031824 vs Dragon 3.3: 310 - 179 - 1511 [0.533]
... Berserk 031824 playing White: 197 - 41 - 762 [0.578] 1000
... Berserk 031824 playing Black: 113 - 138 - 749 [0.487] 1000
... White vs Black: 335 - 154 - 1511 [0.545] 2000
Elo difference: 22.8 +/- 7.5, LOS: 100.0 %, DrawRatio: 75.5 %
2000 of 2000 games finished.
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