GPT-4o made a chess engine

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darmar
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Re: GPT-4o made a chess engine

Post by darmar »

I posted this, because GPT-4o produce very different chess engines, after same my question:
"Please write chess engine in python and allow me to play against this engine"
Next I write:
"Please, improve chess engine to play stronger" and after such 3-4 times the engine becomes really strong...
It means everybody can produce some engine and the limit is only how long can write GPT.
If it stopped during the writing you can 'tell' him:
"Continue the script from cut off", and GPT will continue the script until the end.
I found GPT-5 link and I am using it last days:
https://chatgpt.com/g/g-m7THrR6EF-gpt-5-0
Werewolf
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Re: GPT-4o made a chess engine

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darmar wrote: Sun Jun 09, 2024 12:38 am I posted this, because GPT-4o produce very different chess engines, after same my question:
"Please write chess engine in python and allow me to play against this engine"
Next I write:
"Please, improve chess engine to play stronger" and after such 3-4 times the engine becomes really strong...
It means everybody can produce some engine and the limit is only how long can write GPT.
If it stopped during the writing you can 'tell' him:
"Continue the script from cut off", and GPT will continue the script until the end.
I found GPT-5 link and I am using it last days:
https://chatgpt.com/g/g-m7THrR6EF-gpt-5-0
This isn't ChatGPT 5.
It'll be a rebadged version 4
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towforce
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Re: GPT-4o made a chess engine

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Just thinking about copyright issues. The traditional way of doing things:

1. I write code

2. I compile it

3. I hold copyright over both the source code and the executable

Some people have argued that an NN weights file cannot be copyrighted because it does not contain human creativity (this seems wrong to me, but many people have argued that at this forum). So... might we have the following situation:

1. I write an LLM prompt

2. On reading that prompt, an LLM writes the code for a chess engine

Could it be that I could claim copyright over the prompt, but not the engine code???
The simple reveals itself after the complex has been exhausted.
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towforce
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Re: GPT-4o made a chess engine

Post by towforce »

towforce wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2024 1:50 pm Just thinking about copyright issues. The traditional way of doing things:

1. I write code

2. I compile it

3. I hold copyright over both the source code and the executable

Some people have argued that an NN weights file cannot be copyrighted because it does not contain human creativity (this seems wrong to me, but many people have argued that at this forum). So... might we have the following situation:

1. I write an LLM prompt

2. On reading that prompt, an LLM writes the code for a chess engine

Could it be that I could claim copyright over the prompt, but not the engine code???

Helpful article: doesn't clear the issue up, but gives some expert guidance:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/joemckendr ... platforms/
The simple reveals itself after the complex has been exhausted.