WCCC 2024 participants are announced

[Viz]

ICGA - banning rybka because it took some code from fruit which was discovered by reverse engineering made by people who are completely incapable of doing it.
Also ICGA - allow to enter engine that shares 99,9% of code with another engine which is not willing to participate. Seems logical.

[lucametehau]

ICGA - banning rybka because it took some code from fruit which was discovered by reverse engineering made by people who are completely incapable of doing it.
Also ICGA - allow to enter engine that shares 99,9% of code with another engine which is not willing to participate. Seems logical.

Also an engine that uses false advertising and data. From Pohl site and testing

Latest Website-News (2024/09/03): Testrun of ShashChess 35.3 HighTal for my full UHO-Ratinglist finished: The EAS-Score is a disappointment: 177416 is worse than the normal Stockfish. So this "High Tal" setting is just nonsense. As expected.

[Engin]

I do hope that Tornado isn't going to use a Stockfish net.

I've heard whisperings around the authenticity of Raptor.

if is not allowed to use any NNUEs, so i will not use any SF NNUEs then, i generated my own nets, may be i can using that ones at last, otherwise i will use my own hand crafted eval

My purpose is not to win the WCCC, just enjoy it

[Graham Banks]

I do hope that Tornado isn't going to use a Stockfish net.

I've heard whisperings around the authenticity of Raptor.

if is not allowed to use any NNUEs, so i will not use any SF NNUEs then, i generated my own nets, may be i can using that ones at last, otherwise i will use my own hand crafted eval

My purpose is not to win the WCCC, just enjoy it

All the best, Engin.

Will you release a new Tornado with its own net soon?

[Engin]

I do hope that Tornado isn't going to use a Stockfish net.

I've heard whisperings around the authenticity of Raptor.

if is not allowed to use any NNUEs, so i will not use any SF NNUEs then, i generated my own nets, may be i can using that ones at last, otherwise i will use my own hand crafted eval

My purpose is not to win the WCCC, just enjoy it

All the best, Engin.

Will you release a new Tornado with its own net soon?

Thanks Graham !
if my nets are good enough, yes why not?

[Graham Banks]

I do hope that Tornado isn't going to use a Stockfish net.

I've heard whisperings around the authenticity of Raptor.

if is not allowed to use any NNUEs, so i will not use any SF NNUEs then, i generated my own nets, may be i can using that ones at last, otherwise i will use my own hand crafted eval

My purpose is not to win the WCCC, just enjoy it

All the best, Engin.

Will you release a new Tornado with its own net soon?

Thanks Graham !
if my nets are good enough, yes why not?

That would be great!

[hgm]

I don't understand the fuss. It seems obvious that if the 'official' Stockfish had wanted to participate, ICGA would not have accepted Shashchess, as it was clearly pointed out that these share most of their code.

It is up to ICGA to decide which engines they allow to run, and their policy has always been to accept any entry as long as the origin of the code is known, and its use is legal.

There seems to be some confusion about the concept of originality here; for the ICGA the only aspect of it that matters is that all participants are fully different, and not derivatives of each other. They must be fully original within the pool of participants. It was never a requirement that the person operating the machine and accepting the trophy had written 100% of the code; in fact it has frequently happened this person did not contribute any code at all. As long as the origin of the code is made public, this is fine.

Since the Stockfish code is available under GPL, its use in Shashchess is legal, provided the latter is open source. Which appears to be the case here.

Lying about the origin of the engine's code is a transgression of the WCCC rules that ICGA takes quite seriously, though.

[noobpwnftw]

I suggest his next endeavor goes on arxiv and try to win a nobel prize, maybe starting with improved attosecond angular streaking with shashin theory.

[hgm]

In science that is actually the usual mode of operation. He would not be the first to do that, but the umptieth. There have been numerous papers using (and claiming to improve upon) the experimental setup we originally used for the attoseconds pulses. This is exactly why things get awarded a Nobel prize; it means they have impact. Of course they all faithfully refer to the original publication. Having a high citation score is much more important than having a large number of publications. Publishing something that no one can use is not a heroic feat.

[noobpwnftw]

Then you must have missed the shashin theory one big time. Spread enough lies trying to get more quoted is heroic by your definition.