Amazing results of LeelaKnightOdds-Dev

[Father]

Interesting to compare lichess blitz rating and leela rating to see the higher for players who played more than 100 games.

1)Hissha 131 2516.5 131(2374?)
2)Ushkothebear 2388.6 319(2530)
3)Catecan 2362.5 1818 (2082?)
4)Sakali 2283.7 183(2728)
5)AxelBoldt 2276.5 392(2025?)
6) uriblass 2240.5 223(2132)
7)Ajktulm 2236.4 302(2015)
8) nn1133 2195.6 6346(1860? 6 games)
9)elputoano 2174.0 233(2060)
10)edgebottle 2147.6 389(no rating)
11)xHadyx 2139.7 181(2274? 964 games)
12)Forgive1219 2134.7 189(2315)
13)IM WhiteRabbit00735 2132.7 172(2804)
14)chess66666 2095.0 212(2433)
15)vital303 2021.5 362(2084? 587 games)
16)Shakkileijona 2019.8 119(2085? 493 games)
17)KentGoulding 1973.1 307(no rating)
18)Brunetticus 1966.0 434(2128? 127 games)
19)ericfromlux 1962.6 241(1867)
20)megaserg86 1953.0 272(2381)
21)Nechto37 1943.4 113(2507)
22)PedalExtremities 1909.9 125(2318)
If I look only at players with no ? in their rating I get the following(added comments for part of them):
1)Ushkothebear 2388.6 319(2530) lost most games but played a lot of bullet 1+0 games
2)Sakali 2283.7 183(2728) lost most games but played a lot of bullet 1+0 games
3)uriblass 2240.5 223(2132)
4)Ajktulm 2236.4 302(2015) play both white and black in time control of 5+3 and 10+5 improved recently
5)elputoano 2174.0 233(2060) lost most games and play in most games recently blitz.
6)Forgive1219 2134.7 189(2315) play recently 5+5 with black and get near 50% at that time control(earlier tried many 1+1)
7)IM WhiteRabbit00735 2132.7 172(2804)
8)chess66666 2095.0 212(2433)
9)ericfromlux 1962.6 241(1867) usually play white and 5+3 and lost most games.
10)megaserg86 1953.0 272(2381)
11)Nechto37 1943.4 113(2507)
12)PedalExtremities 1909.9 125(2318)

...Uri, this information is very interesting. I would believe that if the mission is to learn to know the algorithm more deeply, it is useful to play enough games. Furthermore, if at any time it comes to choosing the Happy to play against the position in the table, it will be a difficult decision. For example, I would like to play more games today, but given my percentage of 44.44 against the
Last elo cut, I prefer to wait in order to observe the reflection on my elo, performance and board. Yesterday was the opposite, I preferred to play more than 250 games, but today there are only 9.

[Father]

Interesting to compare lichess blitz rating and leela rating to see the higher for players who played more than 100 games.

1)Hissha 131 2516.5 131(2374?)
2)Ushkothebear 2388.6 319(2530)
3)Catecan 2362.5 1818 (2082?)
4)Sakali 2283.7 183(2728)
5)AxelBoldt 2276.5 392(2025?)
6) uriblass 2240.5 223(2132)
7)Ajktulm 2236.4 302(2015)
8) nn1133 2195.6 6346(1860? 6 games)
9)elputoano 2174.0 233(2060)
10)edgebottle 2147.6 389(no rating)
11)xHadyx 2139.7 181(2274? 964 games)
12)Forgive1219 2134.7 189(2315)
13)IM WhiteRabbit00735 2132.7 172(2804)
14)chess66666 2095.0 212(2433)
15)vital303 2021.5 362(2084? 587 games)
16)Shakkileijona 2019.8 119(2085? 493 games)
17)KentGoulding 1973.1 307(no rating)
18)Brunetticus 1966.0 434(2128? 127 games)
19)ericfromlux 1962.6 241(1867)
20)megaserg86 1953.0 272(2381)
21)Nechto37 1943.4 113(2507)
22)PedalExtremities 1909.9 125(2318)
If I look only at players with no ? in their rating I get the following(added comments for part of them):
1)Ushkothebear 2388.6 319(2530) lost most games but played a lot of bullet 1+0 games
2)Sakali 2283.7 183(2728) lost most games but played a lot of bullet 1+0 games
3)uriblass 2240.5 223(2132)
4)Ajktulm 2236.4 302(2015) play both white and black in time control of 5+3 and 10+5 improved recently
5)elputoano 2174.0 233(2060) lost most games and play in most games recently blitz.
6)Forgive1219 2134.7 189(2315) play recently 5+5 with black and get near 50% at that time control(earlier tried many 1+1)
7)IM WhiteRabbit00735 2132.7 172(2804)
8)chess66666 2095.0 212(2433)
9)ericfromlux 1962.6 241(1867) usually play white and 5+3 and lost most games.
10)megaserg86 1953.0 272(2381)
11)Nechto37 1943.4 113(2507)
12)PedalExtremities 1909.9 125(2318)

...Uri, this information is very interesting. I would believe that if the mission is to learn to know the algorithm more deeply, it is useful to play enough games. Furthermore, if at any time it comes to choosing the Happy to play against the position in the table, it will be a difficult decision. For example, I would like to play more games today, but given my percentage of 44.44 against the
Last elo cut, I prefer to wait in order to observe the reflection on my elo, performance and board. Yesterday was the opposite, I preferred to play more than 250 games, but today there are only 9.

... later on I will return to the duels with the black pieces, I will play many games ... we will see what will happen, my time control will be 1 minute without increment ... it continues to seem very strange to me that such strong players
don't come play with me honey
polar bear arena. Well...remembering some words learned in my childhood...: "if the mountain does not come to Muhammad, Muhammad will go to the
mountain." I would like to know if the masters can do a better job in 1 + 0 with white than what I have done... I don't know, it will just have to be seen. Besides, I lose to win and I win to lose.!

[lkaufman]

The only ways to raise your rating on the leaderboard are to improve your percentage score or to switch colors. If you play 50 games in a day and score 15% or you play 500 games and score 15%, your rating will end up about the same. In my case, my percentage goes up with more games in a day as I get adjusted to the circumstances. Of course if I played too many fatigue would set in and results would decline. Maybe 2 to 3 hours of play is optimum, I'm sure it varies for different people. I didn't expect to reach the top of the list at age 77, but I recognize that it is partly due to other leading players not having played enough games, and partly due to the fact that strong players mostly play one minute zero second increment games, where it is extremely difficult to win. I am sure that many strong players would pass me if they played enough games at a time limit where they could usually win, as I do. The best players can come out ahead (playing Black) at 3 minute zero seconds, which would give them a very high rating if they played enough games.

Thank you very much Mr. Larry Kaufman for your information. Today I played nine games, I got four draws and five losses. My percentage index is much higher than what I obtained yesterday and the day before, it was 44.44% until today, the highest since I faced LeelaQueenOdds. How long should I wait for tomorrow in my elo? As for age, the qualitative achievement is much greater if you are older... furthermore, let us not forget that world and community leaders have a historical tradition that is deposited in older and more experienced people... in addition, the human algorithm It never gets old, the communication channels can simply come into conflict... anecdotally, a good friend of mine a couple of months ago, met a motorcyclist in Argentina who was returning alone from Ushuaia, the southern tip of Patagonia Argentina, "The End of the World" and on the motorcycle the lone warrior had a ribbon written that said: "Life begins at seventy years of age." So, what is written is written!! You are now the sole leader, it is up to others to assume your leadership, or observe it from afar, there are no options.
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I would expect some improvement in your Elo on tomorrow's list, but it won't go up a lot from just nine games. If you can remain above 40% draws for say fifty games, you should go up a lot. With a K factor of 10, your rating is primarily based on your last 80 games or so (a bit oversimplified), so playing more than about a hundred won't make much difference if the percentage score is constant.

[Uri Blass]

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I would like to know if the masters can do a better job in 1 + 0 with white than what I have done... I don't know, it will just have to be seen. Besides, I lose to win and I win to lose.!

I am sure that there are people who can do better job than you in 1+0 with white.
You are a good player but it is clear that not the best and I am sure that A-Liang can do better than you with white and he even did better with black relative to what you did with white.

You could not get 25% with white even with the last 9 games because 4 draws and 5 losses is 2 out of 9 that is near 22.22% when he got 9.5 out of 37 with black 1+0 that is slightly more than 25%

[Uri Blass]

My result against the queen odds version at 10+5 with white today was 24-10 and 4 draws(total rasult of 26-12 that is near 68.4% that is near 137 elo advantage or performance of 2120+137=2257

Note that I did not try to repeat wins with white and played different openings.

I stopped playing 15+10 with white after achieving 10 wins in a row at that level.
My total result against ir was 38-7 and 4 draws that is 40-9(near 81.6% that is near 257 elo advantage that is performance of 2027+257=2284)

Note that one of the losses on time was because of connection failure of the internet in time trouble in a winning position but I was still not sure about the result in that time.

In one of the draw Leela missed a win in KNN vs KP.

Here is the game
https://lichess.org/jXIbH72DCeAG

winning the last 2 games after that post I now have 28-12 against the bot at 10+5 with white with 9.5-0.5 in the last 10 games including 6-0 in the last 6 games.
70% is 149 elo diffrence based on the fide table so the performance is 2120+149=2269

Note that inspite of winning I had few cases when I disconnected and reconnected and lost some seconds on the clock(I guess the average time loss on the clock is something like 2 seconds per game and in most games I had no problem but there were games when I lost 10 or 20 seconds on the clock because of the problem.

[Father]

My result against the queen odds version at 10+5 with white today was 24-10 and 4 draws(total rasult of 26-12 that is near 68.4% that is near 137 elo advantage or performance of 2120+137=2257

Note that I did not try to repeat wins with white and played different openings.

I stopped playing 15+10 with white after achieving 10 wins in a row at that level.
My total result against ir was 38-7 and 4 draws that is 40-9(near 81.6% that is near 257 elo advantage that is performance of 2027+257=2284)

Note that one of the losses on time was because of connection failure of the internet in time trouble in a winning position but I was still not sure about the result in that time.

In one of the draw Leela missed a win in KNN vs KP.

Here is the game
https://lichess.org/jXIbH72DCeAG

winning the last 2 games after that post I now have 28-12 against the bot at 10+5 with white with 9.5-0.5 in the last 10 games including 6-0 in the last 6 games.
70% is 149 elo diffrence based on the fide table so the performance is 2120+149=2269

Note that inspite of winning I had few cases when I disconnected and reconnected and lost some seconds on the clock(I guess the average time loss on the clock is something like 2 seconds per game and in most games I had no problem but there were games when I lost 10 or 20 seconds on the clock because of the problem.

... I have a question please. I just played 80 bullet games at 1 minute without increment. My performance was 30 draws and 50 losses, I played with white. I would like to know or know what impact this result will have on my elo. Thanks in advance to Mr. Larry Kaufman, Uri and Bruneti91. I wish you all a good and happy night. Thank you

[lkaufman]

... I have a question please. I just played 80 bullet games at 1 minute without increment. My performance was 30 draws and 50 losses, I played with white. I would like to know or know what impact this result will have on my elo. Thanks in advance to Mr. Larry Kaufman, Uri and Bruneti91. I wish you all a good and happy night. Thank you

If you achieved that result every day, in a random order, your rating would eventually climb to 2441 and stay there. It probably won't go up that much just for the one day, maybe halfway or so. The exact rating depends on the order in which your results happened, because the latest ones count for more than the older ones. If you can improve to 50% draws (50% losses) playing White and stay there, you would eventually reach 2515 under current rules (which totally by chance is one point below my current rating!). Your score (under normal scoring rules) of 19% playing White is only a little worse than the 3100 rated bullet players score playing Black, which is indeed quite an achievement even though they are mostly playing to win, not aiming for draws. Not many people could do what you have done. I did notice that at least one very high rated bullet player tried playing with the White piece at 1'0" as you do, I think he scored about 33%.

[Father]

... I have a question please. I just played 80 bullet games at 1 minute without increment. My performance was 30 draws and 50 losses, I played with white. I would like to know or know what impact this result will have on my elo. Thanks in advance to Mr. Larry Kaufman, Uri and Bruneti91. I wish you all a good and happy night. Thank you

If you achieved that result every day, in a random order, your rating would eventually climb to 2441 and stay there. It probably won't go up that much just for the one day, maybe halfway or so. The exact rating depends on the order in which your results happened, because the latest ones count for more than the older ones. If you can improve to 50% draws (50% losses) playing White and stay there, you would eventually reach 2515 under current rules (which totally by chance is one point below my current rating!). Your score (under normal scoring rules) of 19% playing White is only a little worse than the 3100 rated bullet players score playing Black, which is indeed quite an achievement even though they are mostly playing to win, not aiming for draws. Not many people could do what you have done. I did notice that at least one very high rated bullet player tried playing with the White piece at 1'0" as you do, I think he scored about 33%.

Thank you Mr. Larry Kaufman. For now, being in the group of the top 5 in the standings gives me a lot of satisfaction and joy. The truth is I don't know how far I could rise yet. It depends a lot on how much pressure begins to be observed in those who come further behind me; Personally, I feel very happy watching the current leader. If someone were to strip that title, then I would probably go hunting for whoever did it. The truth is that I do not waste any effort, and if my programmer grants me the gift of life and health, new future stages will come. I also observe that in the general lot there are super strong bosses, who I don't know if they want or not to bet on occupying better positions. I also saw very strong Asian players facing the computer. I also find it very useful that they play with the color white, so we can make comparisons and weighted calculations.

[Father]

... I have a question please. I just played 80 bullet games at 1 minute without increment. My performance was 30 draws and 50 losses, I played with white. I would like to know or know what impact this result will have on my elo. Thanks in advance to Mr. Larry Kaufman, Uri and Bruneti91. I wish you all a good and happy night. Thank you

If you achieved that result every day, in a random order, your rating would eventually climb to 2441 and stay there. It probably won't go up that much just for the one day, maybe halfway or so. The exact rating depends on the order in which your results happened, because the latest ones count for more than the older ones. If you can improve to 50% draws (50% losses) playing White and stay there, you would eventually reach 2515 under current rules (which totally by chance is one point below my current rating!). Your score (under normal scoring rules) of 19% playing White is only a little worse than the 3100 rated bullet players score playing Black, which is indeed quite an achievement even though they are mostly playing to win, not aiming for draws. Not many people could do what you have done. I did notice that at least one very high rated bullet player tried playing with the White piece at 1'0" as you do, I think he scored about 33%.

Thank you Mr. Larry Kaufman. For now, being in the group of the top 5 in the standings gives me a lot of satisfaction and joy. The truth is I don't know how far I could rise yet. It depends a lot on how much pressure begins to be observed in those who come further behind me; Personally, I feel very happy watching the current leader. If someone were to strip that title, then I would probably go hunting for whoever did it. The truth is that I do not waste any effort, and if my programmer grants me the gift of life and health, new future stages will come. I also observe that in the general lot there are super strong bosses, who I don't know if they want or not to bet on occupying better positions. I also saw very strong Asian players facing the computer. I also find it very useful that they play with the color white, so we can make comparisons and weighted calculations.

I have a belief, around the fight of man against the chess machine. I think that whoever wants to be strong playing against computers requires, among many other things:
- The human must expose himself, playing a significant number of games. This exhibition involves two scenarios:
. Expose the good name and the invinsibility status of the human.
. Expose yourself to losing, if necessary, like a cockroach, which aspires to mutate into a scorpion.
- Be willing to lose the human repeatedly, many times.
The other scenario, and in my opinion the worst, is to remain on the sidelines, in the shadows.

[Father]

... I have a question please. I just played 80 bullet games at 1 minute without increment. My performance was 30 draws and 50 losses, I played with white. I would like to know or know what impact this result will have on my elo. Thanks in advance to Mr. Larry Kaufman, Uri and Bruneti91. I wish you all a good and happy night. Thank you

If you achieved that result every day, in a random order, your rating would eventually climb to 2441 and stay there. It probably won't go up that much just for the one day, maybe halfway or so. The exact rating depends on the order in which your results happened, because the latest ones count for more than the older ones. If you can improve to 50% draws (50% losses) playing White and stay there, you would eventually reach 2515 under current rules (which totally by chance is one point below my current rating!). Your score (under normal scoring rules) of 19% playing White is only a little worse than the 3100 rated bullet players score playing Black, which is indeed quite an achievement even though they are mostly playing to win, not aiming for draws. Not many people could do what you have done. I did notice that at least one very high rated bullet player tried playing with the White piece at 1'0" as you do, I think he scored about 33%.

Thank you Mr. Larry Kaufman. For now, being in the group of the top 5 in the standings gives me a lot of satisfaction and joy. The truth is I don't know how far I could rise yet. It depends a lot on how much pressure begins to be observed in those who come further behind me; Personally, I feel very happy watching the current leader. If someone were to strip that title, then I would probably go hunting for whoever did it. The truth is that I do not waste any effort, and if my programmer grants me the gift of life and health, new future stages will come. I also observe that in the general lot there are super strong bosses, who I don't know if they want or not to bet on occupying better positions. I also saw very strong Asian players facing the computer. I also find it very useful that they play with the color white, so we can make comparisons and weighted calculations.

I have a belief, around the fight of man against the chess machine. I think that whoever wants to be strong playing against computers requires, among many other things:
- The human must expose himself, playing a significant number of games. This exhibition involves two scenarios:
. Expose the good name and the invinsibility status of the human.
. Expose yourself to losing, if necessary, like a cockroach, which aspires to mutate into a scorpion.
- Be willing to lose the human repeatedly, many times.
The other scenario, and in my opinion the worst, is to remain on the sidelines, in the shadows.

Good morning everyone, that is my hope and my wish. I am "Catecan", a little wooden horse, at this moment I write from the mangers of the rooftop racecourse. My rider has me going around and around since he decided my destiny right on the lifts. I have already traveled 2171 laps around the track. My life passes between the riding arena and the indoor courts. Between the "horse riding" and the "unloading" I struggle to catch up with "the hare." on the "racetracks".. my energy is limited and with the corner of my right eye I can see perfectly in "La terrace Bárbaro Club House, trendy spot at the Hipódromo de las Américas" to the "Artificial Intelligence" taking note of each one of my laps on the horse circuit... What will happen to me, I wonder, who am I, why have I come to this world, what is my mission, my vocation and my goals? The "AI" cannot help me, it has no state of consciousness...from my heavy heart, I thank Dad and Mom who have already left and are waiting for me, I also thank the Leela team. I don't know how far I can ascend, many wooden horses come after me, the stubbornness and wisdom inherited from my grandparents, conquering mules, are my greatest legacy.

LeelaQueenOdds Leaderboard - Top 100

About this Leaderboard

How do I earn points? You can gain or lose points only by playing LeelaQueenOdds
How is the rating computed? It's based on the same method as the FIDE rating adjustment, using:
K = 40 for the first 30 games
K = 20 up to 150 games
K = 10 for subsequent games
Play at your best Time Control: This leaderboard adjusts ratings based on Time Control
How is Leela's rating computed? A statistical model based on LeelaQueenOdds games normalizes Lichess blitz ratings and time control with the score expected by Elo
Play for the Win: Draws have the 'K' factor halved
Starting rating: Lichess rating - 200, with a maximum starting rating of 1800
Update: In these early stages, the leaderboard is updated occasionally but daily
Github: https://github.com/Marcogio9/LeelaQueenOdds-Leaderboard
No Player Rating Games
LeelaQueenOdds as white 1+0 (Reference) 2895.2
LeelaQueenOdds as black 1+0 (Reference) 2795.2
LeelaQueenOdds as white 1+1 (Reference) 2634.5
LeelaQueenOdds as white 3+0 (Reference) 2619.5
LeelaQueenOdds as black 1+1 (Reference) 2534.5
LeelaQueenOdds as black 3+0 (Reference) 2519.5
1 Hissha 2506.5 131
2 Orichess88 2504.5 73
3 Master_Unknown 2494.6 92
LeelaQueenOdds as white 3+2 (Reference) 2450.0
4 Catecan 2413.7 2171
5 Ushkothebear 2394.7 342
6 Bonitta 2393.8 66
7 Omnivor 2361.3 34
LeelaQueenOdds as white 5+3 (Reference) 2353.7
LeelaQueenOdds as black 3+2 (Reference) 2350.0
8 Sakali 2318.3 209
9 Respectful_Dave 2297.0 75
10 itore 2277.1 43
11 Feofanov_Vladimir 2257.9 130
LeelaQueenOdds as black 5+3 (Reference) 2253.7
12 ricky8632200 2247.8 147
13 Ajktulm 2242.5 309
14 uriblass 2236.3 226
LeelaQueenOdds as white 10+5 (Reference) 2220.3
15 Spreek 2209.8 45
16 RhinoTank 2208.9 81
17 cmdbreivik 2207.9 197
18 SilverMitt 2203.1 26
19 AxelBoldt 2196.1 484
20 nn1133 2192.1 6418
21 sfy2011 2191.8 37
22 SuperEasy 2187.3 21
23 iWannaSeeYouSmile 2179.8 73
24 Chrisinc 2164.5 37
25 elputoano 2164.0 233
26 Olga547823 2144.4 31
27 wael96 2141.0 53
28 WhiteRabbit00735 2136.9 202
29 xHadyx 2129.7 181
LeelaQueenOdds as white 15+10 (Reference) 2127.3
30 MathTennisCoding 2126.9 71
31 Forgive1219 2124.7 189
32 TheLlamaLord 2123.7 22
33 edgebottle 2122.3 440
LeelaQueenOdds as black 10+5 (Reference) 2120.3
34 lyxsgdzt 2120.1 66
35 qasdfgi 2118.8 62
36 mapascual 2110.3 42
37 chess66666 2105.5 249
38 Jagen 2104.5 56
39 A-Liang 2074.4 37
40 cramor 2057.8 42
41 Peristilo 2036.1 54
42 Punypawn315 2034.9 19
43 wireless78 2034.4 21
44 ycw77092 2032.4 16
LeelaQueenOdds as black 15+10 (Reference) 2027.3
45 Give_You_Up 2017.2 37
46 SerbianPigeon 2016.6 23
47 Ready2live 2014.2 78
48 MGod123 2011.5 75
49 vital303 2011.5 362
50 RabbitsGrowOnTrees 2010.1 80
51 Shakkileijona 2009.8 119
52 Superhond 2002.4 30
53 egor42 2002.0 12
54 Liouville1 2000.6 39
55 GambitSlonia2 2000.3 41
56 kbll 1999.2 41
57 coachpotato11 1998.3 16
58 jzm 1996.3 15
59 RockyHolyfield 1994.7 20
60 weirdexperiment 1992.5 57
61 QuCaNi 1983.0 21
62 Gryphos1 1981.3 115
63 ChaseTheMace 1979.1 59
64 maciej_rurami 1977.4 23
65 Kacparov 1960.7 41
66 box_boxed 1958.8 52
67 The_Pizza_Pazer 1958.5 13
68 raftsiam 1958.0 41
69 MagicArcher642 1957.8 22
70 KentGoulding 1957.1 313
71 Brunetticus 1956.0 434
72 Rawnsdale 1954.5 31
73 MrGaye 1953.0 11
74 Gvierous-Lady 1952.2 172
75 ericfromlux 1951.2 244
76 Lucky1357924680 1949.0 35
77 jty 1948.4 57
78 Monchi 1946.7 14
79 Ilin_IgorK 1946.5 20
80 OjaiJoao 1945.7 5
81 megaserg86 1943.0 272
82 susiedent 1941.6 14
83 raysun68 1940.7 170
84 XulIyU 1938.2 36
85 XuYL_1a 1937.5 24
86 Nechto37 1933.4 113
87 darkhorse_98 1930.6 19
88 CommonElk 1928.1 38
89 ChernyukEgor08 1926.8 15
90 Nudibranchs 1924.6 11
91 Fearsamuel 1920.1 13
92 Morozov_Artem_13 1919.1 21
93 jos3000 1916.1 50
94 ActorXu 1915.2 65
95 buva2006 1913.7 17
96 yyzx77 1912.4 19
97 Andromeda3 1911.9 159
98 universe64 1910.3 26
99 desperado64 1910.0 41
100 ranibow_ghost 1908.7 16