[pgn][Event "Casual bullet game"]Father wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 8:08 pm[Event "Casual bullet game"]Father wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 7:41 pm... A question. Let's imagine an open tournament with about 200 participants. One of the 200 players is leelaOddsQueen. In the imaginary scenario, there are 5 grandmasters, 10 international masters, 30 top-class players, and 155 players of all kinds; The time control, 3 minutes per game, and 8 hours straight in the masnau. I wonder? Where in the table would OddsQueen probably be? Probable Elo? Thank you Mr. Larry Kaufman ...lkaufman wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 6:16 pmNote that right now, only the knight odds bot is specifically trained for odds, but it is likely that the other bots will be updated very soon to use the net trained for knight odds, as it seems to be stronger than the normal version even at larger odds. So once the switch is made, expect it to get even harder to win at queen odds!Father wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 3:14 pm...The sun that gives us light and life rises to the heavens. Today I have understood that we can be better, move forward, progress and evolve as human beings. Yesterday ending the day at night I lost 6-4. Today at the beginning of the day I beat the computer 7-3. I have tamed the furious horse, now it is time to ride the cybernetic horse. Our strategic thinking makes the conquering steed tame. Man and machine heading towards the north and ideals, crossing the seven seas. My Father and Catecan will conquer the world.Father wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 6:29 amlkaufman wrote: ↑Mon Oct 07, 2024 5:01 pmIn LiChess blitz games that bot performs around 2400 Lichess level, which is considered to be equivalent to 2235 FIDE rating. Of course it would be lower at longer time controls, but you are playing blitz, so the above is appropriate for you.Father wrote: ↑Mon Oct 07, 2024 4:47 pm...excellent odds!! I have stated, ( 20 games ) I believe that as human beings playing against odds, we have the possibility of learning more about the odds and thus increase the probability of improving the results... I have a question; What could be the estimated elo of this odds? Thank you Mr. Larry Kaufman.lkaufman wrote: ↑Mon Oct 07, 2024 3:47 amThank you. Your games have been helpful in highlighting the issue of allowing early repetition draws, we're working on ways to reduce them. If you want to know what I would consider most useful, I would like to see you play games with LeelaQueenForKnight, at whatever time limit allows you to win a decent percentage of the games. It's most helpful when players pick a handicap that is a bit difficult for them but where the win/loss ratio is not too one-sided. My guess is that you'll need a fairly slow blitz or even Rapid TC to do this; it's WAY harder than actual queen odds, though easier for the human than rook odds.Father wrote: ↑Mon Oct 07, 2024 1:57 am Mr. Larry Kaufman.

This performance in the fight of man against machine with odds is really wonderful.

I consider that in man-machine duels with odds, that in some way, there are real probabilities on the part of the human being to acquire progress in shortening the distances.

If at any time you wish or consider that it is useful for you to participate in man-versus-machine duels, I would be attentive to an invitation, in exchange for the sole pleasure of playing chess, without a prize of any kind.

1.733 / 5.000

Mr. Larry Kaufman. Just a few minutes ago, I finished my first match against "LeelaQueenOdds". I played ten matches, and the final result was the following: 6 points to the computer, 4 points to me. The computer won 5 matches against me, I won 3 matches against the computer, and there were two draws. I mistakenly believed that it would be a simple matter to beat the computer. But nothing could be further from the truth. I played the games with a 3-minute time control. The computer knocked me out four times in a row... I went into a deep shock. I was then forced to make a quick change of strategy, using all my experience. A round of only ten matches, and I was defeated four times. !! I asked myself what to do against this beast, who without legs and without one of its hands was annihilating me!! So, game number five was my first win, game number six a draw, game number seven my second win, game number eight a draw, game number nine represented the tragedy of my fifth loss, and game number ten represented my third win. If we divide the tournament into two stages, game number one to game number four shows a computer that takes me by surprise. And game number four to game ten, a modification of my flexible thinking, which gives a favorable result in my favor of four against two. But... I lost. Nothing to say, and instead, a lot to thank the creators of this ODDS for. Without a doubt, I recommend this odds. The reason is simple... it allows us to play chess, to improve ourselves, and it gives us the joy of playing against someone better than the human world champion, who gives us the opportunity without his queen, to play chess. Thank you.

[pgn][Event "Casual blitz game"]

[Site "https://lichess.org/MtU1NIXV"]

[Date "2024.10.24"]

[White "LeelaQueenOdds"]

[Black "Catecan"]

[Result "0-1"]

[UTCDate "2024.10.24"]

[UTCTime "12:01:04"]

[WhiteElo "2000"]

[BlackElo "2082"]

[WhiteTitle "BOT"]

[Variant "From Position"]

[TimeControl "180+0"]

[ECO "?"]

[Opening "?"]

[Termination "Normal"]

[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNB1KBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]

[SetUp "1"]

[Annotator "lichess.org"]

1. c4 e6 2. d3 d5 3. a3 c6 4. e4 dxc4 5. dxc4 e5 6. Nc3 Nf6 7. h3 a5 8. Be3 b6 9. Nf3 Nbd7 10. Rd1 Qc7 11. g4 h6 12. Rg1 Be7 13. Bd3 Ba6 14. b3 Bxa3 15. Ke2 Bc5 16. Bd2 Bb4 17. Ke3 Rd8 18. Bc2 Nc5 19. Ne2 Rxd2 20. Nxd2 Ke7 21. Nf3 Rd8 22. Rxd8 Qxd8 23. Rd1 Qc7 24. Bb1 g5 25. Ng3 Kf8 26. h4 Nxg4+ 27. Ke2 f6 28. hxg5 hxg5 29. Rh1 Kg8 30. Nh5 Qf7 31. Kf1 Ne6 32. Bd3 Nf4 33. Nxf4 exf4 34. e5 Nxe5 35. Nxe5 fxe5 36. Bh7+ Qxh7 37. Rxh7 Kxh7 38. Ke2 Kg6 39. Kd3 Kf6 40. Ke4 Bb7 41. c5 Bxc5 42. b4 axb4 43. Kd3 Ba6+ 44. Kc2 g4 45. Kb3 e4 46. Kc2 Bb5 47. Kb3 Ke5 48. Kc2 Bxf2 49. Kb3 Bc5 50. Kc2 e3 51. Kb2 f3 52. Kc2 g3 53. Kb2 Kf4 54. Kc2 Bd4 55. Kb3 c5 56. Ka2 Bc4+ 57. Kb1 b5 58. Kc2 b3+ 59. Kb1 e2 60. Kc1 Ke3 61. Kb1 f2 62. Kc1 g2 63. Kb1 e1=N 64. Kc1 f1=N 65. Kb1 g1=N 66. Kc1 b2+ 67. Kb1 Bd3+ 68. Ka2 b1=Q+ 69. Ka3 b4+ 70. Ka4 b3 71. Ka5 b2 72. Kb6 c4+ 73. Kc6 c3 74. Kd7 c2 75. Ke7 c1=N 76. Kd7 Qa1 77. Ke7 b1=N 78. Kf7 Qa7+ 79. Kf8 Bc5+ 80. Kg8 Bc4+ 81. Kh8 Bd4# { Black wins by checkmate. } 0-1[/pgn]

[Site "https://lichess.org/KorV9oRr"]

[Date "2024.10.24"]

[White "Catecan"]

[Black "LeelaQueenOdds"]

[Result "1-0"]

[UTCDate "2024.10.24"]

[UTCTime "17:49:35"]

[WhiteElo "2030"]

[BlackElo "2000"]

[BlackTitle "BOT"]

[Variant "From Position"]

[TimeControl "60+0"]

[ECO "?"]

[Opening "?"]

[Termination "Normal"]

[FEN "rnb1kbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]

[SetUp "1"]

[Annotator "lichess.org"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. e3 d5 3. f4 c5 4. Nf3 Nc6 5. c3 e5 6. fxe5 Ne4 7. Bd3 f5 8. exf6 Nxf6 9. Qc2 Bd6 10. O-O Bc7 11. e4 dxe4 12. Bxe4 O-O 13. Bxc6 bxc6 14. dxc5 Ba6 15. Re1 Rae8 16. Nbd2 Rxe1+ 17. Nxe1 g5 18. h3 g4 19. hxg4 Nxg4 20. Nef3 Rd8 21. Nf1 Rf8 22. Bg5 Ne5 23. Nxe5 Bxe5 24. Be3 Bxf1 25. Rxf1 Bh2+ 26. Kxh2 Rxf1 27. Bf2 Rxf2 28. Qxf2 Kg7 29. Qf5 a5 30. Qe6 a4 31. Qxc6 a3 32. b4 Kf7 33. Qa4 Ke6 34. Qxa3 Ke5 35. Qb3 h5 36. c4 h4 37. a4 h3 38. Kxh3 Ke4 39. b5 Kf5 40. Qb4 Ke4 41. c6 Kd3 42. c5 Ke3 43. b6 Kd3 44. a5 Ke3 45. a6 Kd3 46. c7 Ke3 47. c6 Ke2 48. Qb5+ Ke3 49. b7 Kd2 50. a7 Ke3 51. c8=Q Kd2 52. c7 Ke3 53. Qce8+ Kd2 54. Qd5+ Kc3 55. c8=Q+ Kb2 56. b8=Q+ Ka1 57. a8=Q# { White wins by checkmate. } 1-0

[Site "https://lichess.org/KorV9oRr"]

[Date "2024.10.24"]

[White "Catecan"]

[Black "LeelaQueenOdds"]

[Result "1-0"]

[UTCDate "2024.10.24"]

[UTCTime "17:49:35"]

[WhiteElo "2030"]

[BlackElo "2000"]

[BlackTitle "BOT"]

[Variant "From Position"]

[TimeControl "60+0"]

[ECO "?"]

[Opening "?"]

[Termination "Normal"]

[FEN "rnb1kbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]

[SetUp "1"]

[Annotator "lichess.org"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. e3 d5 3. f4 c5 4. Nf3 Nc6 5. c3 e5 6. fxe5 Ne4 7. Bd3 f5 8. exf6 Nxf6 9. Qc2 Bd6 10. O-O Bc7 11. e4 dxe4 12. Bxe4 O-O 13. Bxc6 bxc6 14. dxc5 Ba6 15. Re1 Rae8 16. Nbd2 Rxe1+ 17. Nxe1 g5 18. h3 g4 19. hxg4 Nxg4 20. Nef3 Rd8 21. Nf1 Rf8 22. Bg5 Ne5 23. Nxe5 Bxe5 24. Be3 Bxf1 25. Rxf1 Bh2+ 26. Kxh2 Rxf1 27. Bf2 Rxf2 28. Qxf2 Kg7 29. Qf5 a5 30. Qe6 a4 31. Qxc6 a3 32. b4 Kf7 33. Qa4 Ke6 34. Qxa3 Ke5 35. Qb3 h5 36. c4 h4 37. a4 h3 38. Kxh3 Ke4 39. b5 Kf5 40. Qb4 Ke4 41. c6 Kd3 42. c5 Ke3 43. b6 Kd3 44. a5 Ke3 45. a6 Kd3 46. c7 Ke3 47. c6 Ke2 48. Qb5+ Ke3 49. b7 Kd2 50. a7 Ke3 51. c8=Q Kd2 52. c7 Ke3 53. Qce8+ Kd2 54. Qd5+ Kc3 55. c8=Q+ Kb2 56. b8=Q+ Ka1 57. a8=Q# { White wins by checkmate. } 1-0[/pgn]