ShashChess Chess Engine Is Not Stockfish Engine

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Re: ShashChess Chess Engine Is Not Stockfish Engine

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noobpwnftw wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 10:40 am Whether that draude has anything to do with mocking someone else is irrelevant, you couldn've just stated the real reason for silencing him, instead of looking for an excuse. You see why not admitting to what's on your mind is going to backfire at some point?
It might be irrelevant to you. (Which reveals a lot about your character, BTW...) But actually the final cause of demise was that I did inform him of the fact (by PM) that he had made it obvious to everyone that Draude Stoalis was not a real name, that this was against TalkChess policy, and that he had to provide his real name to the admin within a few days. That he chose not to reply within the deadline, and thus be silenced, was his own choice, not mine.
As for relating to the real name issue here, someone obviously did make a mistake filling the blanks and the extra scrutiny isn't so much of a personal attack IMO, considering the circumstances. And I get conflicting information about whether 'Micky Mouse' is a real name that one can go by here.
You can be sure that I would not activate an account that registered as Mickey Mouse. And since I seem to be the only one here that ever activates accounts, that should remove your confusion. (I have never seen a Mickey Mouse, btw, but I did reject registration attempts of 'Peter Pan'.)
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I certainly have no intention to hide my character which needs to be 'revealed', that was a simple question about whether draude was silenced for real name issue or there was more to it, appearently there was, and you do not seem willing to admit to silencing him was over his trolling.

I obviously also do not think Daniel Pierce here is a real name of the guy but guess who cares and who don't.
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'Trolling' is an ill-defined and highly subjective qualification. A one-time parody could be interpreted as criticism, but persistent ridiculing of the same member by a mob is a personal attack as well as harasment / stalking, and would not have been allowed anyway, even if Draude had chosen to stay with us. But it is understandable that he did not, since obviously his only purpose to be here at all was to harass Eduard, and not being allowed to do that would leave nothing for him to say. Especially since he was almost certainly already had an account here (yet another charter violation) with which he could participate in genuine discussions about computer chess.

Ironic thing is that the person the mob wanted to drive from the forum eventually left on its own accord for exactly the same reason as Draude left: he also appeared to only be interested in persistently harassing another member, and when I forbade him to do so, he wanted me to close his account.

'Daniel Pierce' might not be a real name, but as long as there is no general action for verifying everybody's name (or forcing people to provide one), I don't see any reason to single out this case to act against it. Quite unlike 'Draude' the name is not offensive to anyone, does not contain any hidden messages, and cannot cause any misunderstandings.
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noobpwnftw wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 11:08 am I certainly have no intention to hide my character which needs to be 'revealed', that was a simple question about whether draude was silenced for real name issue or there was more to it, appearently there was, and you do not seem willing to admit to silencing him was over his trolling.

I obviously also do not think Daniel Pierce here is a real name of the guy but guess who cares and who don't.
It’s inconceivable that a random new member would turn up here with the name Eduard Solista (a then target person) reversed. Therefore it’s a fake name and a fake account of a not real person created by an existing member. For that reason alone (trolling with a second account masquerading as someone else is undesirable here) the account was made null.
Please find something else to gripe about.
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Same could be said about this fake Daniel, as soon as you stop feeding him he'll probably leave as well.

Good to know you have some sense of the matter being 'subjective' since I don't see that clearity from you very often.

If ends justify the means, do you think a name check for Daniel is no longer necessary at this point?

BTW, your 'Micky Mouse' fantacy is a bust Chris.
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noobpwnftw wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 11:27 am Same could be said about this fake Daniel, as soon as you stop feeding him he'll probably leave as well.

Good to know you have some sense of the matter being 'subjective' since I don't see that clearity from you very often.

If ends justify the means, do you think a name check for Daniel is no longer necessary at this point?

BTW, your 'Micky Mouse' fantacy is a bust Chris.
Hahaha! You're showing pretty severe literal/metaphorical discrimination issues. Explains much.
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There you go, when you cannot win an argument, you too resort to personal attacks.
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But there is no 'argument'. Just childish whining of people who cannot get their evil way, bringing forward non-sensical pretexts.
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Whining isn't against the charter, personal attack is.

BTW, don't abuse your mod edits.
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Indeed, but not when the 'personal attack' is so personal that it only exists in your mind. If you really think that Chris meant that there has been someone trying to register as Mickey Mouse, rather than just giving an example of what kind of names we would refuse, his posting is a factually accurate observation.