Testing LazySMP

[Modern Times]

I think this community has been more than collaborative with him.

My concerning regards.

I'm not sure so about that. Several people have been outright hostile towards him. There are faults on both "sides".

[Tibono]

Back to the topic... testing LazySMP (the program, not the nicknamed ).
It keeps deceptively failing to complete a lot of games (around 50%). Hangs at a couple of moves from the end. I strongly suspect pondering is bugged.
Author, please do us a favor: if fixing a (some) bug(s), please increase a release number, not a version number. Otherwise please comment the relevant changes deserving a new version number.
Regards,
Eric

[Sylwy]

Back to the topic... testing LazySMP (the program, not the nicknamed ).
It keeps deceptively failing to complete a lot of games (around 50%). Hangs at a couple of moves from the end. I strongly suspect pondering is bugged.
Author, please do us a favor: if fixing a (some) bug(s), please increase a release number, not a version number. Otherwise please comment the relevant changes deserving a new version number.
Regards,
Eric

For my game time (TC=4'+2") the engine is stable. I noticed only one problem: if it exceeds 125 moves (over 250 ply in game economy) it goes into time forfeit. But it is a common fault of many engines in this class (see my pictures). Otherwise the engine is OK (no crashes in my tournament). Version 5 seems to be around 2100 Elo. I removed version 4 from the tournament (weak).

[Tibono]

For my game time (TC=4'+2") the engine is stable.

Hi Sylvian,
thanks;
please do you set 'ponder on' for your tournaments? It really makes a difference with regards to v5 stability (evidence is in the logs I shared in this post).
Of course it doesn't happen if the opponent resigns soon enough. I did not notice the same issue when using v3; thus maybe a regression.
All the best,
Eric

[Sylwy]

For my game time (TC=4'+2") the engine is stable.

Hi Sylvian,
thanks;
please do you set 'ponder on' for your tournaments? It really makes a difference with regards to v5 stability (evidence is in the logs I shared in this post).
Of course it doesn't happen if the opponent resigns soon enough. I did not notice the same issue when using v3; thus maybe a regression.
All the best,
Eric

Hi,
All my tournaments/matches are with ponder=off (except for some rare engines that don't accept the command - Relax Chess is just an example).
Regards,
Sylvian

[LazySMP]

I apologize moderators, but LazySMP, this guy or persona or entity is hopeless.

I spent a thousand hours, In wait of dreams I could not find. I walked a thousand empty roads, In search of way to test my engine.

Several people have been outright hostile towards him.

Really surprising. Instead of trying to develop their own engine, they tried to destroy mine. In the end, they succeeded

[chesskobra]

Several people have been outright hostile towards him.

Really surprising. Instead of trying to develop their own engine, they tried to destroy mine. In the end, they succeeded

I don't understand this. You said such things a few times (you will quit developing your engine, etc.). Why such pessimism? Here is my sincere advice. First of all, you should develop your engine for yourself, for your own enjoyment, learning, etc. How can THEY destroy your engine? Is getting listed on CCRL or CEGT the greatest reward or the only reward that you dream of? There are already people here who are testing your engine, giving you feedback, so why not ignore other entities? Moreover, mods have not banned you just because of pressure from other entities. From what I read, it seems your engine is already quite stable and performs at 2000-2100 rating. I am sure the CCRL people follow the discussion and test results of the engine here, so one day if it appears to be getting strong enough, with bugs ironed out, they will definitely pick up your engine. I also see some others running engine competitions, so you could consider one day entering your engine in one such competition. So I see many positives here. You should ignore the negativity from some others, decide your own goals with the engine, and keep working towards them.

[Graham Banks]

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[LazySMP]

Why such pessimism? How can THEY destroy your engine?

As Graham said, those comments were deleted. I was under DDoS attack from SF members.

I deleted some postings that were making unmotivated accusations for seemingly no reason at all. Note that libelous personal attacks are a charter violation, and those persisting in it will be banned.

But some comments are still left, which you can see in the kindergarten section. viewtopic.php?t=84382

Is getting listed on CCRL or CEGT the greatest reward or the only reward that you dream of?

Yes, it is my only dream. I spent a thousand hours, In wait of dreams I could not find.

I am sure the CCRL people follow the discussion and test results of the engine here, so one day if it appears to be getting strong enough, with bugs ironed out, they will definitely pick up your engine.

No, This never happens. And if CCRL people want to test my engine, others won't let them test it.

You should ignore the negativity from some others, decide your own goals with the engine, and keep working towards them.

I think of the past as destroyed time, and it was really probably the most emotionally destroying time of my life.

[hgm]

No, This never happens. And if CCRL people want to test my engine, others won't let them test it.

This will indeed never happen, and that has absolutely nothing to do with "others don't letting them". It is 100% your own doing. By battering CCRL testers with unreasonable requests to test your engine before this long list of much stronger engines that are already waiting to be tested, rather than waiting your turn and treating them with respect, you have succeeded in making them dislike you so much that they will never test your engine.