Progress over the last 18 years

[Jouni]

Spike is available here http://www.spikechess.de/downloads.html . So I could not resist a match. HERT book 60 + 0,6 level:

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1   stockfish17  +500/=0/-0 100.00%  500.0/500
2   Spike11       +0/=0/-500 0.00%     0.0/500

Spike has triple node speed, but SF has double depth as average.

[Uri Blass]

Spike is available here http://www.spikechess.de/downloads.html . So I could not resist a match. HERT book 60 + 0,6 level:

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1   stockfish17  +500/=0/-0 100.00%  500.0/500
2   Spike11       +0/=0/-500 0.00%     0.0/500

Spike has triple node speed, but SF has double depth as average.

I suspect that in your time control the gap is already bigger than 1000 elo.
Try Spike1.4 and maybe it can get few half points.

[Jouni]

After 500 more games:

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Score of stockfish17 vs Spike11: 998 - 0 - 2 [0.999]
...      stockfish17 playing White: 500 - 0 - 0  [1.000] 500
...      stockfish17 playing Black: 498 - 0 - 2  [0.998] 500
...      White vs Black: 500 - 498 - 2  [0.501] 1000
Elo difference: 1199.8 +/- nan, LOS: 100.0 %, DrawRatio: 0.2 %
1000 of 1000 games finished.

Spike uses only less than 50% of available time with increment.

[Uri]

Computers are getting better at chess every year no doubt.

But I think that no matter the progress, humans are always going to be better than computers and not only at chess.

We see this in all walks of life and not only in chess, humans being smarter than computers.

Even in a million years from now when chess engines are going to be very very advanced, I think that humans are always going to be a step further ahead than computers.

[towforce]

Computers are getting better at chess every year no doubt.

But I think that no matter the progress, humans are always going to be better than computers and not only at chess.

We see this in all walks of life and not only in chess, humans being smarter than computers.

Even in a million years from now when chess engines are going to be very very advanced, I think that humans are always going to be a step further ahead than computers.

After Kasparov beat Deep Blue easily 1996 challenge, and making it look easy in the last game, I remember several people writing "not in my lifetime" on RGCC (the main computer chess forum at that time). This is the first time I've heard something like that since 1997, when Deep Blue won the return match.

[Vinvin]

Computers are getting better at chess every year no doubt.

But I think that no matter the progress, humans are always going to be better than computers and not only at chess.

We see this in all walks of life and not only in chess, humans being smarter than computers.

In go ? In chess ? Which human can beat the best computers in a match ?

[Uri]

In go ? In chess ? Which human can beat the best computers in a match ?

Don't know about go because I'm not a go player but in chess I think that several players still can: Valeri lilov, Magnus Carlsen, Vladimir Kramnik, Ivanov Borislav for instance.

[chessica]

Meilensteine waren für mich im PC Schach

1. Fritz 1 (freeware!)
2. Schredder 5 WM Paket Triplebrain
3. Ippolit
4. Rypka
5. Houdini
6. Stockfish

[chessica]

Milestones for me were in PC chess

1. Fritz 1 (freeware!)
2. Schredder 5 WM Paket Triplebrain
3. Ippolit
4. Rypka
5. Houdini
6. Stockfish

[towforce]

In go ? In chess ? Which human can beat the best computers in a match ?

Don't know about go because I'm not a go player but in chess I think that several players still can: Valeri lilov, Magnus Carlsen, Vladimir Kramnik, Ivanov Borislav for instance.

This is wrong. Chess computers are so much better than humans now that a human win would be very rare indeed.