Progress over the last 18 years

[Uri Blass]

Milestones for me were in PC chess

1. Fritz 1 (freeware!)
2. Schredder 5 WM Paket Triplebrain
3. Ippolit
4. Rypka
5. Houdini
6. Stockfish

I remember the following engines that were the best engine in the past
1)Genius
2)Fritz
3)Shredder
4)Rybka
5)Houdini
6)Stockfish

Looking at the ssdf I find
https://ssdf.bosjo.net/long.txt

89 Hiarcs 14 Athlon 1.2 GHz 3095 29 -29 560 55% 3059
96 Deep Rybka 3 Athlon 1.2 GHz 3068 36 -35 372 53% 3044
172 Shredder 7 UCI K6-2 450 MHz 2691 24 -24 834 43% 2742(best of 450MHz)
226 Fritz 5.32 64MB P200 MHz MMX 2501 13 -13 3023 38% 2589(best of 200MHz)
278 Genius 4 DOS 486/50-66 MHz 2271 23 -23 900 49% 2275(best of 486/50-66 MHz

The fact that Hiarc14 has a bigger rating than Rybka3 is a surpsise for me because I see different order in CCRL rating list and maybe the book help Hiarcs in the SSDF rating list

Rybka 3 64-bit 4CPU 3152 +10 −10 61.1% −84.6 42.3% 2615
HIARCS 14 4CPU 3084 +11 −11 42.9% +48.3 51.0% 1920

[chesskobra]

Don't know about go because I'm not a go player but in chess I think that several players still can: Valeri lilov, Magnus Carlsen, Vladimir Kramnik, Ivanov Borislav for instance.

Then how is it possible that a lot of players are able to cheat using engine against Kramnik? Maybe at advanced chess they are even better than Kramnik?

[syzygy]

In go ? In chess ? Which human can beat the best computers in a match ?

Don't know about go because I'm not a go player but in chess I think that several players still can: Valeri lilov, Magnus Carlsen, Vladimir Kramnik, Ivanov Borislav for instance.

All these players disagree with you. But given your mention of "Ivanov Borislav" (Borislav Ivanov, the notorious engine-in-the-shoe player), I assume you are deliberately trolling?

[jkominek]

Milestones for me were in PC chess

1. Fritz 1 (freeware!)
2. Schredder 5 WM Paket Triplebrain
3. Ippolit
4. Rypka
5. Houdini
6. Stockfish

I remember the following engines that were the best engine in the past
1)Genius
2)Fritz
3)Shredder
4)Rybka
5)Houdini
6)Stockfish

Looking at the ssdf I find
https://ssdf.bosjo.net/long.txt

89 Hiarcs 14 Athlon 1.2 GHz 3095 29 -29 560 55% 3059
96 Deep Rybka 3 Athlon 1.2 GHz 3068 36 -35 372 53% 3044
172 Shredder 7 UCI K6-2 450 MHz 2691 24 -24 834 43% 2742(best of 450MHz)
226 Fritz 5.32 64MB P200 MHz MMX 2501 13 -13 3023 38% 2589(best of 200MHz)
278 Genius 4 DOS 486/50-66 MHz 2271 23 -23 900 49% 2275(best of 486/50-66 MHz

The fact that Hiarc14 has a bigger rating than Rybka3 is a surpsise for me because I see different order in CCRL rating list and maybe the book help Hiarcs in the SSDF rating list

Rybka 3 64-bit 4CPU 3152 +10 −10 61.1% −84.6 42.3% 2615
HIARCS 14 4CPU 3084 +11 −11 42.9% +48.3 51.0% 1920

On the historical SSDF list, both Shredder and Rybka have had dominating spans during whey they jumped above the competition and held it for several years .

[jkominek]

Computers are getting better at chess every year no doubt.

But I think that no matter the progress, humans are always going to be better than computers and not only at chess.

We see this in all walks of life and not only in chess, humans being smarter than computers.

Even in a million years from now when chess engines are going to be very very advanced, I think that humans are always going to be a step further ahead than computers.

Indeed. In between rounds at a chess tournament, for example, humans will always be better than computers at eating a ham and cheese sandwich, and determining whether it goes better with mustard, mayonnaise, or horse radish.

[Vinvin]

...the following engines that were the best engine in the past...

Here the top 3 engine year by year : https://www.talkchess.com/forum/viewtop ... 08#p701908

[Paloma]

The link in your former posting >2005 no longer works.
chessprogramming.wikispaces.com is now chessprogramming.org

New:
https://www.chessprogramming.org/SSDF