The CB & CCRL monopoly game

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Re: The CB & CCRL monopoly game

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AdminX wrote: As in the quote of Harvey's posted above.
The problem here is that the quote is made up and is another one of those stupid threads copied and pasted here from elsewhere.
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Re: The CB & CCRL monopoly game

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Harvey Williamson wrote:
AdminX wrote: As in the quote of Harvey's posted above.
The problem here is that the quote is made up and is another one of those stupid threads copied and pasted here from elsewhere.
Sorry you were misrepresented. I do have some questions for you however, Why does Chessbase not allow Houdini to play in the Playchess Engine room? Who do you answer to over there that said Houdini was not allowed? I hope you don't mind, I ask because you are the one most are blaming. They don't think its coming from Chessbase.
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Re: The CB & CCRL monopoly game

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Yep, true.

What would be nice is if they let engines into the main playing hall. It's no fun watching my engine get smashed in the engine room!

It's a shame they don't.

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Albert Silver wrote:
yanquis1972 wrote:What I write here is related to my passion for computer chess, and of course my extreme seniority, as Ive been a member of CCC since 1996.

albert, really...i've read your post years ago & recently & really enjoyed them. you truly do seem to have changed since you started getting paid by CB. i'm glad you landed the gig, i think it's great. but why would you say something like that?? i'm probably a dozen or two years your younger & i signed on to CCC in '98 or '99 or so...wtf does this have to do with anything?? 'extreme seniority'?? you just sound like a douche.
The implication is that I post on behalf of Chessbase :roll: and the point is to say that I have been here since 1996 long before I worked with ChessOk or Chessbase.
Albert is a good guy and I'm not saying it to wave tails.....
Even when he argue with you,he's polite,I give him that....
And finally i don't think that he's been paid by ChessBase to post here....just my opinion....
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Re: The CB & CCRL monopoly game

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Harvey Williamson wrote:
AdminX wrote: As in the quote of Harvey's posted above.
The problem here is that the quote is made up and is another one of those stupid threads copied and pasted here from elsewhere.
(Note: I reply to you Harvey, because the original post suddenly disappeared during my writing of this post! Of course it is directed
to Dr. Alexander Schmidt.)

Taking a fake interview from the chess dirt forum and posting it here
under the title 'informational purpose' is what exactly - yes something
not covered by the rules of this board?

BTW it seems you are using two accounts simultaneously here now, or do you consider yourself a different Alexander Schmidt as in
this revived thread?
http://talkchess.com/forum/viewtopic.ph ... highlight=
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Re: The CB & CCRL monopoly game

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Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:
Albert Silver wrote:
yanquis1972 wrote:What I write here is related to my passion for computer chess, and of course my extreme seniority, as Ive been a member of CCC since 1996.

albert, really...i've read your post years ago & recently & really enjoyed them. you truly do seem to have changed since you started getting paid by CB. i'm glad you landed the gig, i think it's great. but why would you say something like that?? i'm probably a dozen or two years your younger & i signed on to CCC in '98 or '99 or so...wtf does this have to do with anything?? 'extreme seniority'?? you just sound like a douche.
The implication is that I post on behalf of Chessbase :roll: and the point is to say that I have been here since 1996 long before I worked with ChessOk or Chessbase.

Albert is a good guy and I'm not saying it to wave tails.....
Even when he argue with you,he's polite,I give him that....
And finally i don't think that he's been paid by ChessBase to post here....just my opinion....
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i know he is not being paid by chessbase to post here & is a good guy. as i said i have been following comp chess off & on since the late 90s & have always appreciated albert's insight. my point is that since i started following talkchess, albert's posts seem to have taken a slant since he popped up on chessbase.com. i think that's unfortunate any way you slice it.
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Re: The CB & CCRL monopoly game

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Albert Silver wrote:
Hood wrote:In other words CB, allows only its engines to play on Playchess .

It is interesting if it is not breaking an antymonopoly rule ?
That is utter nonsense. There are tons of non-CB engines for one thing (mostly stockfish, but this is one of those fads), and second, it is THEIR product. What part of THEIR product don't you understand?
It looks you do not understand 'its' . Its in that case means engines accepted by CB on the base of the unclear rules. May be written behind the scene.

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Re: The CB & CCRL monopoly game

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yanquis1972 wrote:
Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:
Albert Silver wrote:
yanquis1972 wrote:What I write here is related to my passion for computer chess, and of course my extreme seniority, as Ive been a member of CCC since 1996.

albert, really...i've read your post years ago & recently & really enjoyed them. you truly do seem to have changed since you started getting paid by CB. i'm glad you landed the gig, i think it's great. but why would you say something like that?? i'm probably a dozen or two years your younger & i signed on to CCC in '98 or '99 or so...wtf does this have to do with anything?? 'extreme seniority'?? you just sound like a douche.
The implication is that I post on behalf of Chessbase :roll: and the point is to say that I have been here since 1996 long before I worked with ChessOk or Chessbase.

Albert is a good guy and I'm not saying it to wave tails.....
Even when he argue with you,he's polite,I give him that....
And finally i don't think that he's been paid by ChessBase to post here....just my opinion....
Dr.D
i know he is not being paid by chessbase to post here & is a good guy. as i said i have been following comp chess off & on since the late 90s & have always appreciated albert's insight. my point is that since i started following talkchess, albert's posts seem to have taken a slant since he popped up on chessbase.com. i think that's unfortunate any way you slice it.
I think the slant you perceive is from a prejudice you have with CB. I say this sincerely. I'll give you an example, and of course these are my 2 cents. WIth the ongoing Rybka-Ippo wars, I was repeatedly accused of being a proxy for Vas, because I was being "paid" by Vas with betas of his program. I won't comment on how stupid that sounds. This was then changed to being a voice of Chessbase after I began writing for the News page, where supposedly I was now being asked/paid to plug Rybka, not for Vas, but for CB's benefit. Which is to not realize how small this microscosm is. After this any comment I made on Rybka was supposedly for CB or Vas. You go figure. It could not possibly be my actual point of view. No sirree.

On a couple of occasions I have spoken up on a CB product, mostly because there was misinformation and on one because I am a fan and always have been. Even when I worked for ChessOk, I was a fervent subscriber to Chessbase Magazine for example, or the multimedia DVDs with commented games in video. Of course, when I worked for them and vouched for them it was seen as being a chess junkie, now it is because I am a CB employee supposedly. My position is actually the same, but perception by others on my motivation has changed. I can reason with them if it suits me, but mostly I don't bother as I feel it is a waste of time. This is also because I usually get these comments by bile-bearing trolls (not you).

Today I am also a fan of Playchess, mostly for the multimedia options such as live GM commentary or the video shows. I also like the way one can view multiple tiled boards at the same time. Ex: I was watching 6 boards of Wijk at the same time today, just clicking on one and then the other to see Houdini's opinion on each. This was when I was not listening to GM King BTW. All in all, I think it is great personally, and if someone asks whether it is any good, I'll vouch for it. So what?

As to the engine room, since this crops up here, I never ever enter it. I find the endless "book wars" completely uninteresting, so I leave it to the guys who do like it.
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Re: The CB & CCRL monopoly game

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Guenther wrote:Taking a fake interview from the chess dirt forum and posting it here under the title 'informational purpose' is what exactly - yes something not covered by the rules of this board?
Quite amazing that people don't recognize that Jeremy's text was satire. Must be the power of internet... people lose 25 IQ points just by opening their web browser :lol:.

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Houdini wrote:
Guenther wrote:Taking a fake interview from the chess dirt forum and posting it here under the title 'informational purpose' is what exactly - yes something not covered by the rules of this board?
Quite amazing that people don't recognize that Jeremy's text was satire. Must be the power of internet... people lose 25 IQ points just by opening their web browser :lol:.

Robert
Just changing the topic (and I'm not necessarily referring to any person in particular), it's amazing why so many non-Russians from CCC feel it necessary to be members of the piracy forum. At least one is even posting in this thread! Now what would the attraction be over there? :lol:
Would certainly explain their attitude towards getting or wanting everything for free.
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