23 euro cents, I'm afraidflok wrote:Here in the Netherlands it is 0.23 euro cents per kWH.
€ 0,1462 of this is for taxes.
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23 euro cents, I'm afraidflok wrote:Here in the Netherlands it is 0.23 euro cents per kWH.
Electricity for car parks, elevators, building management systems etc is only 7-8ct. I'm thinking of moving some PC's...syzygy wrote:Most of which is tax...flok wrote:Here in the Netherlands it is 0.23 euro cents per kWH.
This is very true.mvk wrote:The only nice thing here is that glitches and outages are extremely rare. PC uptime of over 1 year, without UPS or surge protectors, is quite normal.
It is quite obvious that your consumer cost for electricity could be as low as it is in the US if you spent waaaay less on your electric power infrastructure. Dependable power is overratedsyzygy wrote:This is very true.mvk wrote:The only nice thing here is that glitches and outages are extremely rare. PC uptime of over 1 year, without UPS or surge protectors, is quite normal.
You get what you pay for. Personally I thought the frequency of power cuts we had while we lived in North America was utterly unacceptable.Adam Hair wrote: It is quite obvious that your consumer cost for electricity could be as low as it is in the US if you spent waaaay less on your electric power infrastructure. Dependable power is overrated
If we just don't tax, most of the difference would be gone already.Adam Hair wrote:It is quite obvious that your consumer cost for electricity could be as low as it is in the US if you spent waaaay less on your electric power infrastructure. Dependable power is overratedsyzygy wrote:This is very true.mvk wrote:The only nice thing here is that glitches and outages are extremely rare. PC uptime of over 1 year, without UPS or surge protectors, is quite normal.
Unless the electric heater is calculating chess positions at the same timeEvert wrote:(unless you heat your house electronically, which is pretty stupid).
True.syzygy wrote: Unless the electric heater is calculating chess positions at the same time
I was attempting to be humorous. My post was a jab at the condition of the American power grid and the lack of money spent on modernizing it and making it more robust.Evert wrote:You get what you pay for. Personally I thought the frequency of power cuts we had while we lived in North America was utterly unacceptable.Adam Hair wrote: It is quite obvious that your consumer cost for electricity could be as low as it is in the US if you spent waaaay less on your electric power infrastructure. Dependable power is overrated
Many homes in the American South use heat pumps for heating, with gas or electric heat strips as emergency heat sources. In the case of my bedroom/office, I use an 8 core serverEvert wrote: Beside which, it's first of all not bad to encourage people to cut back on energy consumption, and second most people's energy bill is dominated by gas (unless you heat your house electronically, which is pretty stupid).
Fair enough.Adam Hair wrote: I was attempting to be humorous. My post was a jab at the condition of the American power grid and the lack of money spent on modernizing it and making it more robust.
Using passive heat exchange to heat (or cool) a house is great, and could be utilised more.Many homes in the American South use heat pumps for heating, with gas or electric heat strips as emergency heat sources. In the case of my bedroom/office, I use an 8 core server
That is certainly part of the problem. Though for many years the power supply to newly constructed homes and businesses have generally been run underground, the vast majority of the grid runs above ground.Evert wrote:Fair enough.Adam Hair wrote: I was attempting to be humorous. My post was a jab at the condition of the American power grid and the lack of money spent on modernizing it and making it more robust.
I had the impression a large part of the problem is that many power cables seemed to run above ground, from house-to-house, rather than being underground. Is that fair, or is there a more general problem?
Evert wrote:Using passive heat exchange to heat (or cool) a house is great, and could be utilised more.Many homes in the American South use heat pumps for heating, with gas or electric heat strips as emergency heat sources. In the case of my bedroom/office, I use an 8 core server