I will be running the champs tour this 2017-01-29.
The rules and conditions are in place, if you want to update your engine contact me.
Details:
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1st Mini Shogi Computer Association Championships 2017
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Re: 1st Mini Shogi Computer Association Championships 2017
I think Shokidoki is enough.hgm wrote:No CrazyWa?
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Re: 1st Mini Shogi Computer Association Championships 2017
It is just that tournaments that arbitrarily exclude engines can hardly be taken seriously.
Is anyone in Japan aware of this, btw?
Is anyone in Japan aware of this, btw?
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Re: 1st Mini Shogi Computer Association Championships 2017
If most of the search and evaluation techniques from Shokidoki are in CrazyWa why would I include CrazyWa in this tournament? Or perhaps you want CrazyWa be entered instead of Shokidoki.hgm wrote:It is just that tournaments that arbitrarily exclude engines can hardly be taken seriously.
Is anyone in Japan aware of this, btw?
I wrote Takeshi last December and said they would support such activity. I wrote him today the details (rules/conditions) of the tournament as he was asking this last December.
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Re: 1st Mini Shogi Computer Association Championships 2017
The 8 positions for stage 2 of the tour are the following. Just uploaded this at site. If you have other positions in mind that should be included feel free to post.
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[Event "?"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "?"]
[Round "-"]
[White "?"]
[Black "?"]
[Result "*"]
[Variant "shogi"]
[FEN "rbsgk/4p/5/P4/KGSBR[-] w 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
{--------------
r b s g k
. . . . p
. . . . .
P . . . .
K G S B R
white to play
--------------}
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[Event "?"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "?"]
[Round "-"]
[White "?"]
[Black "?"]
[Result "*"]
[Variant "shogi"]
[FEN "rbsgk/4p/5/P4/KGSBR[-] w 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
{--------------
r b s g k
. . . . p
. . . . .
P . . . .
K G S B R
white to play
--------------}
1. Bb3 Bc4 2. Bxc4 Sxc4
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[Event "?"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "?"]
[Round "-"]
[White "?"]
[Black "?"]
[Result "*"]
[Variant "shogi"]
[FEN "rbsgk/4p/5/P4/KGSBR[-] w 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
{--------------
r b s g k
. . . . p
. . . . .
P . . . .
K G S B R
white to play
--------------}
1. Bc2 Bc4 2. Gb2
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[Event "?"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "?"]
[Round "-"]
[White "?"]
[Black "?"]
[Result "*"]
[Variant "shogi"]
[FEN "rbsgk/4p/5/P4/KGSBR[-] w 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
{--------------
r b s g k
. . . . p
. . . . .
P . . . .
K G S B R
white to play
--------------}
1. Sb2 Sb4 2. Bc2 Bc4
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[Event "?"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "?"]
[Round "-"]
[White "?"]
[Black "?"]
[Result "*"]
[Variant "shogi"]
[FEN "rbsgk/4p/5/P4/KGSBR[-] w 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
{--------------
r b s g k
. . . . p
. . . . .
P . . . .
K G S B R
white to play
--------------}
1. Sb2 Sd4
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[Event "?"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "?"]
[Round "-"]
[White "?"]
[Black "?"]
[Result "*"]
[Variant "shogi"]
[FEN "rbsgk/4p/5/P4/KGSBR[-] w 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
{--------------
r b s g k
. . . . p
. . . . .
P . . . .
K G S B R
white to play
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1. Bc2 Gd4
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[Event "?"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "?"]
[Round "-"]
[White "?"]
[Black "?"]
[Result "*"]
[Variant "shogi"]
[FEN "rbsgk/4p/5/P4/KGSBR[-] w 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
{--------------
r b s g k
. . . . p
. . . . .
P . . . .
K G S B R
white to play
--------------}
1. Bb3 Sc4
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[Event "?"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "?"]
[Round "-"]
[White "?"]
[Black "?"]
[Result "*"]
[Variant "shogi"]
[FEN "rbsgk/4p/5/P4/KGSBR[-] w 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
{--------------
r b s g k
. . . . p
. . . . .
P . . . .
K G S B R
white to play
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1. Bb3 Bc4 2. Bc2 Sb4 3. Sb2
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Re: 1st Mini Shogi Computer Association Championships 2017
But they are not. In fact none of them are. It is a completely different engine. Unless you count alpha-beta pruning, late-move reductions and the piece-square tables. But then you might as well exclude all other engines.Ferdy wrote:If most of the search and evaluation techniques from Shokidoki are in CrazyWa why would I include CrazyWa in this tournament?
Actually I would prefer that. It would be more interesting for me to see how CrazyWa performs w.r.t. other engines at log TC.Or perhaps you want CrazyWa be entered instead of Shokidoki.
Great. It seems the UEC mini-Shogi site was destroyed by hackers, though. Currently it is down. But perhaps he can e-mail the authors from his list.I wrote Takeshi last December and said they would support such activity. I wrote him today the details (rules/conditions) of the tournament as he was asking this last December.
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Re: 1st Mini Shogi Computer Association Championships 2017
All right I will add CrazyWa.hgm wrote:But they are not. In fact none of them are. It is a completely different engine. Unless you count alpha-beta pruning, late-move reductions and the piece-square tables. But then you might as well exclude all other engines.Ferdy wrote:If most of the search and evaluation techniques from Shokidoki are in CrazyWa why would I include CrazyWa in this tournament?
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Re: 1st Mini Shogi Computer Association Championships 2017
Thank you.
In the (admittedly unlikely) case that Takeshi Ito's efforts would interest some Japanese engine developers to participate, wouldn't it be wise to mention on your web page that the tourney is still open for registration (and that engines that use WB protocol or USI are acceptable)? The way it looks now is that everything is final,which could discourage people. The Taiwanese are also quite active in development of mini-Shogi engines.
It is a pity that this GA-Sho!!!!!!!!! engine is so ridiculously resource-consuming.
In the (admittedly unlikely) case that Takeshi Ito's efforts would interest some Japanese engine developers to participate, wouldn't it be wise to mention on your web page that the tourney is still open for registration (and that engines that use WB protocol or USI are acceptable)? The way it looks now is that everything is final,which could discourage people. The Taiwanese are also quite active in development of mini-Shogi engines.
It is a pity that this GA-Sho!!!!!!!!! engine is so ridiculously resource-consuming.