Toby-Tal / Alexander's test positions

[WuShock]

7K/8/2Q1Q3/1Q3Q2/3k4/1Q3Q2/2Q1Q3/8 w - - Qed7
1R3B1K/N1N5/2Q1Q3/7R/3k4/N1N5/2Q1Q3/R6R w - - Bg7
1R3B1K/N7/2Q1Q3/5Q1R/3k4/1Q3Q2/2Q1Q3/R6R w -- Bg7
1R3B1K/8/2Q1Q3/B6R/3k4/6B1/2Q1Q3/R1B4R w - - Bg7
1R5K/8/2Q1Q3/B6R/3k4/6B1/2Q1Q3/R1B4R w - - Rd8
1R5K/8/2Q1Q3/7R/3k4/8/2Q1Q3/R1B1B2R w - - Rd8
1R4RK/8/2Q1Q3/7R/3k4/8/2Q1Q3/R6R w - - Rgd8
7K/8/2Q1Q3/8/3k4/8/2Q1Q3/R6R w - - Qed7
7K/8/2Q1Q3/8/3k4/8/2Q1Q3/R7 w - - Qed7
7B/6K1/2Q1Q3/8/3k4/8/2Q1Q3/8 w - - Kg8
6KB/8/2Q1Q3/2R1R3/3k4/2R1R3/2Q1Q3/8 w - - Qed7
7k/8/8/8/8/3p4/1K6/8 w - - Kc3
8/7k/5P2/8/8/8/1K6/8 w - - Kc3

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If this all ends up being some kind of clone/hoax thing , my sincere apologies to the community........ On the other hand , if it ends up being the new paradigm , I want my props for being an early announcer........
I've been dying to say something about this for the last 2 months , but wanted to wait until it was for sale............

Tom Glenn

[sockmonkey]

7K/8/2Q1Q3/1Q3Q2/3k4/1Q3Q2/2Q1Q3/8 w - - Qed7
1R3B1K/N1N5/2Q1Q3/7R/3k4/N1N5/2Q1Q3/R6R w - - Bg7
1R3B1K/N7/2Q1Q3/5Q1R/3k4/1Q3Q2/2Q1Q3/R6R w -- Bg7
1R3B1K/8/2Q1Q3/B6R/3k4/6B1/2Q1Q3/R1B4R w - - Bg7
1R5K/8/2Q1Q3/B6R/3k4/6B1/2Q1Q3/R1B4R w - - Rd8
1R5K/8/2Q1Q3/7R/3k4/8/2Q1Q3/R1B1B2R w - - Rd8
1R4RK/8/2Q1Q3/7R/3k4/8/2Q1Q3/R6R w - - Rgd8
7K/8/2Q1Q3/8/3k4/8/2Q1Q3/R6R w - - Qed7
7K/8/2Q1Q3/8/3k4/8/2Q1Q3/R7 w - - Qed7
7B/6K1/2Q1Q3/8/3k4/8/2Q1Q3/8 w - - Kg8
6KB/8/2Q1Q3/2R1R3/3k4/2R1R3/2Q1Q3/8 w - - Qed7
7k/8/8/8/8/3p4/1K6/8 w - - Kc3
8/7k/5P2/8/8/8/1K6/8 w - - Kc3

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If this all ends up being some kind of clone/hoax thing , my sincere apologies to the community........ On the other hand , if it ends up being the new paradigm , I want my props for being an early announcer........
I've been dying to say something about this for the last 2 months , but wanted to wait until it was for sale............

Tom Glenn

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Ippolit 0.080a / Robbolito 0.085g3 

7K/8/2Q1Q3/1Q3Q2/3k4/1Q3Q2/2Q1Q3/8 w - - 0 0          Qed7# 
1R3B1K/N1N5/2Q1Q3/7R/3k4/N1N5/2Q1Q3/R6R w - - 0 0     Bg7# 
1R3B1K/N7/2Q1Q3/5Q1R/3k4/1Q3Q2/2Q1Q3/R6R w - - 0 0    Bg7# 
1R3B1K/8/2Q1Q3/B6R/3k4/6B1/2Q1Q3/R1B4R w - - 0 0      Bg7# 
1R5K/8/2Q1Q3/B6R/3k4/6B1/2Q1Q3/R1B4R w - - 0 0        Rd8# 
1R5K/8/2Q1Q3/7R/3k4/8/2Q1Q3/R1B1B2R w - - 0 0         Rd8# 
1R4RK/8/2Q1Q3/7R/3k4/8/2Q1Q3/R6R w - - 0 0            Rgd8# 
7K/8/2Q1Q3/8/3k4/8/2Q1Q3/R6R w - - 0 0                Qed7# 
7K/8/2Q1Q3/8/3k4/8/2Q1Q3/R7 w - - 0 0                 Qed7# 
7B/6K1/2Q1Q3/8/3k4/8/2Q1Q3/8 w - - 0 0                Kg8# 
6KB/8/2Q1Q3/2R1R3/3k4/2R1R3/2Q1Q3/8 w - - 0 0         Qed7# 
7k/8/8/8/8/3p4/1K6/8 w - - 0 0                        Kc3 
8/7k/5P2/8/8/8/1K6/8 w - - 0 0                        Kc3 

Doesn't look great...

Jeremy

[WuShock]

Here's the positions with Toby / Rybka / Robboxxx .09

7K/8/2Q1Q3/1Q3Q2/3k4/1Q3Q2/2Q1Q3/8 w - - Qed7 / Qcd1 / Qed7
1R3B1K/N1N5/2Q1Q3/7R/3k4/N1N5/2Q1Q3/R6R w - - Bg7 / Na3b5 / Bg7
1R3B1K/N7/2Q1Q3/5Q1R/3k4/1Q3Q2/2Q1Q3/R6R w -- Bg7 / Nb5 / Bg7
1R3B1K/8/2Q1Q3/B6R/3k4/6B1/2Q1Q3/R1B4R w - - Bg7 / Qcd1 / Bg7
1R5K/8/2Q1Q3/B6R/3k4/6B1/2Q1Q3/R1B4R w - - Rd8 / Qcd1 / Rd8
1R5K/8/2Q1Q3/7R/3k4/8/2Q1Q3/R1B1B2R w - - Rd8 / Qcd1 / Rd8
1R4RK/8/2Q1Q3/7R/3k4/8/2Q1Q3/R6R w - - Rgd8 / Qcd1 / Rgd8
7K/8/2Q1Q3/8/3k4/8/2Q1Q3/R6R w - - Qed7 / Qcd1 / Qed7
7K/8/2Q1Q3/8/3k4/8/2Q1Q3/R7 w - - Qed7 / Qcd1 / Qed7
7B/6K1/2Q1Q3/8/3k4/8/2Q1Q3/8 w - - Kg8 / Qcd1 / Kg8
6KB/8/2Q1Q3/2R1R3/3k4/2R1R3/2Q1Q3/8 w - - Qed7 / Qcd1 / Qed7
7k/8/8/8/8/3p4/1K6/8 w - - Kc3 / Kc3 / Kc3
8/7k/5P2/8/8/8/1K6/8 w - - Kc3 / Kc3 / f7

Hope this doesn't mean a big " ut-oh "

Like I said , if this is a clone of the clone , I'm sorry.......... at least I paid money for it..........

[sockmonkey]

Here's the positions with Toby / Rybka / Robboxxx .09

8/7k/5P2/8/8/8/1K6/8 w - - Kc3 / Kc3 / f7

I have these reversed, with Toby and Robbo at Kc7 and Rybka at f7, but maybe there were changes in RL09. Not sure why Rybka would evaluate differently for you, though. Maybe I didn't wait long enough.

[Milos]

I have these reversed, with Toby and Robbo at Kc7 and Rybka at f7, but maybe there were changes in RL09. Not sure why Rybka would evaluate differently for you, though. Maybe I didn't wait long enough.

Few things are changed in .09. Meaning Toby is probably a clone of e4(or d3) .

[sockmonkey]

Hope this doesn't mean a big " ut-oh "

Like I said , if this is a clone of the clone , I'm sorry.......... at least I paid money for it..........

If it turns out to be a clone of IppoRobbo (and I suppose more tests and info will be necessary to determine that), that's really annoying (mostly for you!). You should definitely inform the guy, whether you want your money back or not -- he may be paying a programmer to "develop" this engine, and should be aware that he's being cheated.

If you launch the engine manually (double-click on the .exe) and type 'uci' in the console window, what gets printed out?

Jeremy

[WuShock]

uci
id name Toby 1q 1 CPU
id author Various Sources
option name Hash type spin min 4 max 2048 default 64
option name Clear Hash type button
option name Ponder type check default true
option name MultiPV type spin min 1 max 200 default 1
option name HyperTal type check default true
uciok

[Graham Banks]

id author Various Sources

[sockmonkey]

uci
id name Toby 1q 1 CPU
id author Various Sources
option name Hash type spin min 4 max 2048 default 64
option name Clear Hash type button
option name Ponder type check default true
option name MultiPV type spin min 1 max 200 default 1
option name HyperTal type check default true
uciok

Well, at least they made a few changes. What's HyperTal do?

jb

[Dr.Wael Deeb]

id author Various Sources

You knew it Graham