Critter stronger than Naum?

[Dann Corbit]

http://www.inwoba.de/
Look at the rating list.

It's the kind of thing that could make a person go slack-jawed, buggy-eyed.

[George Tsavdaris]

Re: Critter stronger than Naum?
Look at the rating list.
http://www.inwoba.de/

It's the kind of thing that could make a person go slack-jawed, buggy-eyed.

Why?

[Dann Corbit]

Re: Critter stronger than Naum?
Look at the rating list.
http://www.inwoba.de/

It's the kind of thing that could make a person go slack-jawed, buggy-eyed.

Why?

That's my way of saying:
I am very impressed.

[George Tsavdaris]

Re: Critter stronger than Naum?
Look at the rating list.
http://www.inwoba.de/

It's the kind of thing that could make a person go slack-jawed, buggy-eyed.

Why?

That's my way of saying:
I am very impressed.

Oh.
I am too. Without implying anything indirectly, it's a fact these days that new programs are hiking to top places every once in a while.

In the "older" days, this wasn't happening by any means and we had a clear distinction in strength terms to professionals and amateurs where the pros were much stronger and couldn't be reached, e.g Fritz, Shredder, Junior, Hiarcs, Rebel, Tiger all had a league of their own and the others just followed. And situation went this way for years and years.

Right now every single while a new engine hikes and takes a place in the top positions.
I think everything started with Fruit's 2.1 open code , didn't they?

[Dann Corbit]

Re: Critter stronger than Naum?
Look at the rating list.
http://www.inwoba.de/

It's the kind of thing that could make a person go slack-jawed, buggy-eyed.

Why?

That's my way of saying:
I am very impressed.

Oh.
I am too. Without implying anything indirectly, it's a fact these days that new programs are hiking to top places every once in a while.

In the "older" days, this wasn't happening by any means and we had a clear distinction in strength terms to professionals and amateurs where the pros were much stronger and couldn't be reached, e.g Fritz, Shredder, Junior, Hiarcs, Rebel, Tiger all had a league of their own and the others just followed. And situation went this way for years and years.

Right now every single while a new engine hikes and takes a place in the top positions.
I think everything started with Fruit's 2.1 open code , didn't they?

Fruit was clearly a revolution.
I think also that Stockfish has great ideas in it.
Also, testing procedures have improved greatly.
Still, it is amazing when someone who fiddles around for a hobby can club professionals who do it for a living (I saw another list where Critter tops Fritz 12 also).

[Robert Flesher]

http://www.inwoba.de/
Look at the rating list.

It's the kind of thing that could make a person go slack-jawed, buggy-eyed.

Indeed! My early results show it's close behind, if not equal to Rybka, but still a tad weaker than Houdini. However, Critter pulls off some amazing attacks. An engine to watch for sure. Do we know if Critter is a original program ?

[mhalstern]

I was looking at the rules/conditions of the Ipon rating lists, and it states that all engines run on 1 core. Is this an accurate test? Is it possible the Naum either scales better than Critter, or for other reasons, Naum with 4 cores > Critter with 4 cores?

I am disputing the Ipon rating list, just questioning it. Has anybody taken the time to compare the results of engine matches, using 1 core, against matches with the exact conditions, except the engines use 4 cores?

Why do the ipon people test with 1 core - can they get in 4x the amount of games in the same amount of time this way?

[Graham Banks]

Do we know if Critter is a original program ?

From what I've read and what I've been told, yes.

[Dann Corbit]

Lots of people live in the dark ages, which is to say, they have a 32 bit CPU and operating system and only one core.

[Graham Banks]

Lots of people live in the dark ages, which is to say, they have a 32 bit CPU and operating system and only one core.

That's all that a lot of people need, so I wouldn't castigate them for it.