62nd Amateur Series Division 7

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62nd Amateur Series Division 7

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62ND AMATEUR SERIES (Division 7)

Intel i5 Quad
ChessGUI
256mb hash each
3-4-5 piece tablebases
Ponder off
IECGMasters.cgb book
40 moves in 25 minutes repeating (adapted for the CCRL)
4 cycles 44 rounds
All engines 64-bit where available
The top engine will gain automatic promotion. Any other changes of division will be at my discretion and may not necessarily involve playoff matches. This will be the final series that Jazz is eligible for unless a new version is released.
Participants

Ares 1.005.2 64-bit
Waxman 2016
Shallow r694 64-bit
MadChess 2.0 64-bit
Jazz 840 64-bit
Gibbon 2.69a 64-bit
Absolute Zero 2.4.7.2 64-bit
Schooner 1.5 64-bit
Fischerle 0.9.70 SE 64-bit
Jumbo 0.4.0 64-bit
Tunguska 1.0 64-bit
RamJet 0.13

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Broadcast details

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This tournament can be followed more closely from the following link, where games will also be available for download after every two rounds:
http://kirill-kryukov.com/chess/discuss ... f=7&t=8990

Alternatively, if you install TLCV (Tom's Live Chess Viewer) on your computer, you can watch the games live move by move. You'll also be able to chat to others following the tournament in the chatroom there.
http://home.pacific.net.au/~tommyinoz/client.zip
Host - GrahamCCRL.dyndns.org Port - 16053
gbanksnz at gmail.com
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Standings after Round 6 of 44

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62ND AMATEUR SERIES (Division 7)

Intel i5 Quad
ChessGUI
256mb hash each
3-4-5 piece tablebases
Ponder off
IECGMasters.cgb book
40 moves in 25 minutes repeating (adapted for the CCRL)
4 cycles 44 rounds
All engines 64-bit where available
The top engine will gain automatic promotion. Any other changes of division will be at my discretion and may not necessarily involve playoff matches. This will be the final series that Jazz is eligible for unless a new version is released.
Standings after Round 6

4.5 - MadChess 2.0 64-bit
4.0 - Waxman 2016
4.0 - Shallow r694 64-bit
4.0 - Gibbon 2.69a 64-bit
4.0 - Ares 1.005.2 64-bit
3.5 - Jazz 840 64-bit
3.5 - Schooner 1.5 64-bit
2.5 - Jumbo 0.4.17 64-bit
2.0 - Fischerle 0.9.70 SE 64-bit
1.5 - RamJet 0.13
1.5 - Absolute Zero 2.4.7.2 64-bit
1.0 - Tunguska 1.0 64-bit


This tournament can be followed more closely from the following link, where games will also be available for download after every two rounds:
http://kirill-kryukov.com/chess/discuss ... f=7&t=8990

Alternatively, if you install TLCV (Tom's Live Chess Viewer) on your computer, you can watch the games live move by move. You'll also be able to chat to others following the tournament in the chatroom there.
http://home.pacific.net.au/~tommyinoz/client.zip
Host - GrahamCCRL.dyndns.org Port - 16053
gbanksnz at gmail.com
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Standings after Round 12 of 44

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62ND AMATEUR SERIES (Division 7)

Intel i5 Quad
ChessGUI
256mb hash each
3-4-5 piece tablebases
Ponder off
IECGMasters.cgb book
40 moves in 25 minutes repeating (adapted for the CCRL)
4 cycles 44 rounds
All engines 64-bit where available
The top engine will gain automatic promotion. Any other changes of division will be at my discretion and may not necessarily involve playoff matches. This will be the final series that Jazz is eligible for unless a new version is released.
Standings after Round 12

9.0 - Shallow r694 64-bit
9.0 - Gibbon 2.69a 64-bit
7.5 - Waxman 2016
7.5 - Ares 1.005.2 64-bit
7.0 - MadChess 2.0 64-bit
7.0 - Jazz 840 64-bit
6.0 - Fischerle 0.9.70 SE 64-bit
5.0 - Schooner 1.5 64-bit
4.5 - Jumbo 0.4.17 64-bit
4.0 - Absolute Zero 2.4.7.2 64-bit
3.5 - RamJet 0.13
2.0 - Tunguska 1.0 64-bit


This tournament can be followed more closely from the following link, where games will also be available for download after every two rounds:
http://kirill-kryukov.com/chess/discuss ... f=7&t=8990

Alternatively, if you install TLCV (Tom's Live Chess Viewer) on your computer, you can watch the games live move by move. You'll also be able to chat to others following the tournament in the chatroom there.
http://home.pacific.net.au/~tommyinoz/client.zip
Host - GrahamCCRL.dyndns.org Port - 16053
gbanksnz at gmail.com
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Standings after Round 18 of 44

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62ND AMATEUR SERIES (Division 7)

Intel i5 Quad
ChessGUI
256mb hash each
3-4-5 piece tablebases
Ponder off
IECGMasters.cgb book
40 moves in 25 minutes repeating (adapted for the CCRL)
4 cycles 44 rounds
All engines 64-bit where available
The top engine will gain automatic promotion. Any other changes of division will be at my discretion and may not necessarily involve playoff matches. This will be the final series that Jazz is eligible for unless a new version is released.
Standings after Round 18

14.5 - Shallow r694 64-bit
12.5 - Gibbon 2.69a 64-bit
12.5 - MadChess 2.0 64-bit
10.5 - Ares 1.005.2 64-bit
10.0 - Waxman 2016
9.0 - Jazz 840 64-bit
8.5 - Fischerle 0.9.70 SE 64-bit
7.5 - Schooner 1.5 64-bit
7.5 - Absolute Zero 2.4.7.2 64-bit
6.5 - Jumbo 0.4.17 64-bit
5.0 - RamJet 0.13
4.0 - Tunguska 1.0 64-bit


This tournament can be followed more closely from the following link, where games will also be available for download after every two rounds:
http://kirill-kryukov.com/chess/discuss ... f=7&t=8990

Alternatively, if you install TLCV (Tom's Live Chess Viewer) on your computer, you can watch the games live move by move. You'll also be able to chat to others following the tournament in the chatroom there.
http://home.pacific.net.au/~tommyinoz/client.zip
Host - GrahamCCRL.dyndns.org Port - 16053
gbanksnz at gmail.com
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Standings after Round 24 of 44

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62ND AMATEUR SERIES (Division 7)

Intel i5 Quad
ChessGUI
256mb hash each
3-4-5 piece tablebases
Ponder off
IECGMasters.cgb book
40 moves in 25 minutes repeating (adapted for the CCRL)
4 cycles 44 rounds
All engines 64-bit where available
The top engine will gain automatic promotion. Any other changes of division will be at my discretion and may not necessarily involve playoff matches. This will be the final series that Jazz is eligible for unless a new version is released.
Standings after Round 24

19.0 - Shallow r694 64-bit
16.5 - MadChess 2.0 64-bit
15.0 - Gibbon 2.69a 64-bit
13.0 - Ares 1.005.2 64-bit
13.0 - Jazz 840 64-bit
12.5 - Schooner 1.5 64-bit
12.5 - Waxman 2016
11.0 - Fischerle 0.9.70 SE 64-bit
10.0 - Absolute Zero 2.4.7.2 64-bit
8.5 - RamJet 0.13
8.0 - Jumbo 0.4.17 64-bit
5.0 - Tunguska 1.0 64-bit


This tournament can be followed more closely from the following link, where games will also be available for download after every two rounds:
http://kirill-kryukov.com/chess/discuss ... f=7&t=8990

Alternatively, if you install TLCV (Tom's Live Chess Viewer) on your computer, you can watch the games live move by move. You'll also be able to chat to others following the tournament in the chatroom there.
http://home.pacific.net.au/~tommyinoz/client.zip
Host - GrahamCCRL.dyndns.org Port - 16053
gbanksnz at gmail.com
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Standings after Round 30 of 44

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62ND AMATEUR SERIES (Division 7)

Intel i5 Quad
ChessGUI
256mb hash each
3-4-5 piece tablebases
Ponder off
IECGMasters.cgb book
40 moves in 25 minutes repeating (adapted for the CCRL)
4 cycles 44 rounds
All engines 64-bit where available
The top engine will gain automatic promotion. Any other changes of division will be at my discretion and may not necessarily involve playoff matches. This will be the final series that Jazz is eligible for unless a new version is released.
Standings after Round 30

24.5 - Shallow r694 64-bit
19.5 - MadChess 2.0 64-bit
18.5 - Gibbon 2.69a 64-bit
17.0 - Ares 1.005.2 64-bit
17.0 - Waxman 2016
16.5 - Jazz 840 64-bit
15.0 - Fischerle 0.9.70 SE 64-bit
13.5 - Schooner 1.5 64-bit
12.5 - Absolute Zero 2.4.7.2 64-bit
10.0 - Jumbo 0.4.17 64-bit
9.5 - RamJet 0.13
6.5 - Tunguska 1.0 64-bit


This tournament can be followed more closely from the following link, where games will also be available for download after every two rounds:
http://kirill-kryukov.com/chess/discuss ... f=7&t=8990

Alternatively, if you install TLCV (Tom's Live Chess Viewer) on your computer, you can watch the games live move by move. You'll also be able to chat to others following the tournament in the chatroom there.
http://home.pacific.net.au/~tommyinoz/client.zip
Host - GrahamCCRL.dyndns.org Port - 16053
gbanksnz at gmail.com
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Re: Standings after Round 30 of 44

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Graham Banks wrote:Standings after Round 30
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10.0 - Jumbo 0.4.17 64-bit
Hi Graham,

the performance of Jumbo in this tournament is really very bad. I know about statistics but nevertheless 18-20 instead of 10 points would have been the expected result from 30 games in this group. Jumbo performs at about Elo 2200 although the strength of 0.4.17 is clearly higher than that of all previous versions and should be around 2350. In this tourney 0.4.17 performs as if it were 0.4.16, for instance.

Do you have a debug log for me, from any game? Maybe against Absolute Zero to which Jumbo lost all three games so far?

Incredible ...

Of course, most likely it is simply "bad luck". Or there are serious problems with LTC which do not pop up at STC but that would be far-fetched since Jumbo does not do a lot of pruning.

Anyway, thanks for the time you spend for running the tournament!
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Re: Standings after Round 30 of 44

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Sven Schüle wrote:
Graham Banks wrote:Standings after Round 30
...
10.0 - Jumbo 0.4.17 64-bit
Hi Graham,

the performance of Jumbo in this tournament is really very bad. I know about statistics but nevertheless 18-20 instead of 10 points would have been the expected result from 30 games in this group. Jumbo performs at about Elo 2200 although the strength of 0.4.17 is clearly higher than that of all previous versions and should be around 2350. In this tourney 0.4.17 performs as if it were 0.4.16, for instance.

Do you have a debug log for me, from any game? Maybe against Absolute Zero to which Jumbo lost all three games so far?

Incredible ...

Anyway, thanks for the time you spend for running the tournament!
I'll send you all of the debug files. :)
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Re: Standings after Round 30 of 44

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Thanks :-)