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Re: Zenmastur vs Ovyron No it's not another GROB!

Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 11:48 pm
by Zenmastur
1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Nf3 d6 4. d4 g5 5. h4 g4 6. Ng1 Qf6 7. Nc3 Ne7 8. Nge2 Bh6 9. Qd2 Nbc6 10. Nb5 Kd8 11. d5 a6 12. Nbc3 Ne5 13. Nxf4 g3 14. Qe3 N7g6 15. Nce2 Nxf4 16. Nxf4 Ng6 17. Nh5 Bxe3 18. Nxf6 Bd4 19. Nh5 Bf2+ 20. Kd1 f5 21. Bg5+ Ne7 22. exf5 Bxf5 23.a4

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Re: Zenmastur vs Ovyron No it's not another GROB!

Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 12:00 am
by Zenmastur
Ovyron wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2020 11:32 pm Best moves are best moves.

I've never gone over depth 48 for this game, and when I did it it was because I forgot to stop the engine before going to sleep.

I'd still like to take back the comments about white's lousy play, because there's nothing better to try on the KGA. My comments about the choice of the KGA on the first place still remain, it's not an opening you play if you want to exploit someone's else weaknesses!
I don't have any idea what depth to "claim" for my analysis of the opening, but the game is still in my original analysis for 3. .. d6. We did take a side line with 16. ... Ng6 but I had analyzed a multiPV 3 to 72/109 from there and had reverse analyzed the top 2 lines given, which included the current line. Since then I haven't done much analysis in the game. I suppose if you want to play it to the very end then I'll have to do some additional analysis.

Re: Zenmastur vs Ovyron No it's not another GROB!

Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 1:20 am
by Ovyron
I'll play on until I wouldn't prefer the black side. So just reach a position where I'd not mind playing the white side and I'll make a draw offer.

Re: Zenmastur vs Ovyron No it's not another GROB!

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 2:26 am
by Ovyron
Zenmastur wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2020 11:48 pm 23.a4
What happened here is that I got a Notification when Zen quoted my post, and clicking it teleported me to that post, I replied to it and left the thread. I hadn't seen that he played 23.a4 until now (though I had seen he was going to play 23.a4 since he played 7.Nc3, so that'll give you an idea of how much I've been "outsearched".)

That's why I quote Zenmastur when I make my moves, so he gets notified about them, and not just about some random post on the thread...

My move:

23...h6

Re: Zenmastur vs Ovyron No it's not another GROB!

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 7:10 am
by Zenmastur
Ovyron wrote: Thu Mar 26, 2020 2:26 am 23...h6
1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Nf3 d6 4. d4 g5 5. h4 g4 6. Ng1 Qf6 7. Nc3 Ne7 8. Nge2 Bh6 9. Qd2 Nbc6 10. Nb5 Kd8 11. d5 a6 12. Nbc3 Ne5 13. Nxf4 g3 14. Qe3 N7g6 15. Nce2 Nxf4 16. Nxf4 Ng6 17. Nh5 Bxe3 18. Nxf6 Bd4 19. Nh5 Bf2+ 20. Kd1 f5 21. Bg5+ Ne7 22. exf5 Bxf5 23.a4 h6 24.Bd2

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Re: Zenmastur vs Ovyron No it's not another GROB!

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 8:34 am
by Ovyron
Zenmastur wrote: Thu Mar 26, 2020 7:10 am 24.Bd2
24...Nxd5

Re: Zenmastur vs Ovyron No it's not another GROB!

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 10:28 am
by Zenmastur
Ovyron wrote: Thu Mar 26, 2020 8:34 am
Zenmastur wrote: Thu Mar 26, 2020 7:10 am 24.Bd2
24...Nxd5
25.Ra3

Re: Zenmastur vs Ovyron No it's not another GROB!

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 11:34 am
by Ovyron
Zenmastur wrote: Thu Mar 26, 2020 10:28 am 25.Ra3
1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Nf3 d6 4. d4 g5 5. h4 g4 6. Ng1 Qf6 7. Nc3 Ne7 8. Nge2 Bh6 9. Qd2 Nbc6 10. Nb5 Kd8 11. d5 a6 12. Nbc3 Ne5 13. Nxf4 g3 14. Qe3 N7g6 15. Nce2 Nxf4 16. Nxf4 Ng6 17. Nh5 Bxe3 18. Nxf6 Bd4 19. Nh5 Bf2+ 20. Kd1 f5 21. Bg5+ Ne7 22. exf5 Bxf5 23. a4 h6 24. Bd2 Nxd5 25. Ra3 Bg4+

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Re: Zenmastur vs Ovyron No it's not another GROB!

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 10:49 pm
by Zenmastur
Ovyron wrote: Thu Mar 26, 2020 11:34 am
Zenmastur wrote: Thu Mar 26, 2020 10:28 am 25.Ra3
1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Nf3 d6 4. d4 g5 5. h4 g4 6. Ng1 Qf6 7. Nc3 Ne7 8. Nge2 Bh6 9. Qd2 Nbc6 10. Nb5 Kd8 11. d5 a6 12. Nbc3 Ne5 13. Nxf4 g3 14. Qe3 N7g6 15. Nce2 Nxf4 16. Nxf4 Ng6 17. Nh5 Bxe3 18. Nxf6 Bd4 19. Nh5 Bf2+ 20. Kd1 f5 21. Bg5+ Ne7 22. exf5 Bxf5 23. a4 h6 24. Bd2 Nxd5 25. Ra3 Bg4+

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26.Be2

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Re: Zenmastur vs Ovyron No it's not another GROB!

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 2:00 am
by Ovyron
Zenmastur wrote: Thu Mar 26, 2020 10:49 pm 26.Be2
1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Nf3 d6 4. d4 g5 5. h4 g4 6. Ng1 Qf6 7. Nc3 Ne7 8. Nge2 Bh6 9. Qd2 Nbc6 10. Nb5 Kd8 11. d5 a6 12. Nbc3 Ne5 13. Nxf4 g3 14. Qe3 N7g6 15. Nce2 Nxf4 16. Nxf4 Ng6 17. Nh5 Bxe3 18. Nxf6 Bd4 19. Nh5 Bf2+ 20. Kd1 f5 21. Bg5+ Ne7 22. exf5 Bxf5 23. a4 h6 24. Bd2 Nxd5 25. Ra3 Bg4+ 26. Be2 Bxe2+