You are kidding right? Or you speak of engine analysis only? Because I don't believe that statement to be true.Albert Silver wrote:No, it is true. No serious chess player analyzes a position for more than 10 seconds.Guenther wrote:complete nonsenseDr.Ex wrote:Blitz and Bullet strength is most important for serious chess players. Nobody cares about long time controls.yanquis1972 wrote:this has been done, many times over. FB/ippolit family is significantly stronger at bullet, less so at blitz, and marginally stronger at long TC.
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Re: Quote for GM Shabalov on Chess FM.
"Good decisions come from experience, and experience comes from bad decisions."
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Re: Quote for GM Shabalov on Chess FM.
He is being sarcastic. Unfortunately sarcasm is hard to detect on text sometimes.AdminX wrote:You are kidding right? Or you speak of engine analysis only? Because I don't believe that statement to be true.Albert Silver wrote:No, it is true. No serious chess player analyzes a position for more than 10 seconds.Guenther wrote:complete nonsenseDr.Ex wrote:Blitz and Bullet strength is most important for serious chess players. Nobody cares about long time controls.yanquis1972 wrote:this has been done, many times over. FB/ippolit family is significantly stronger at bullet, less so at blitz, and marginally stronger at long TC.
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Re: Quote for GM Shabalov on Chess FM.
Cool, That's more the Albert I know!kingliveson wrote:He is being sarcastic. Unfortunately sarcasm is hard to detect on text sometimes.AdminX wrote:You are kidding right? Or you speak of engine analysis only? Because I don't believe that statement to be true.Albert Silver wrote:No, it is true. No serious chess player analyzes a position for more than 10 seconds.Guenther wrote:complete nonsenseDr.Ex wrote:Blitz and Bullet strength is most important for serious chess players. Nobody cares about long time controls.yanquis1972 wrote:this has been done, many times over. FB/ippolit family is significantly stronger at bullet, less so at blitz, and marginally stronger at long TC.
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Re: Quote for GM Shabalov on Chess FM.
You have absolutely no idea. The professionals do interactive Analysis, therefore the engine usually does not calculate long. Certainly almost never 3 minutes or more for a particular position.
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Re: Quote for GM Shabalov on Chess FM.
I would imagine chess gms probably "browse" through many games with engine analysis in background -- one simply does not have time to analyze every position for too long. Since FB/Ippo are much better at short time control -- Rybka 3 will be used at best for very long time analysis to see the alternative evaluation a few times. -- On the other hand - Isnt SF 1.7 a bit stronger at long tc or about the same ?
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Re: Quote for GM Shabalov on Chess FM.
AdminX wrote:Cool, That's more the Albert I know!kingliveson wrote:He is being sarcastic. Unfortunately sarcasm is hard to detect on text sometimes.AdminX wrote:You are kidding right? Or you speak of engine analysis only? Because I don't believe that statement to be true.Albert Silver wrote:No, it is true. No serious chess player analyzes a position for more than 10 seconds.Guenther wrote:complete nonsenseDr.Ex wrote:Blitz and Bullet strength is most important for serious chess players. Nobody cares about long time controls.yanquis1972 wrote:this has been done, many times over. FB/ippolit family is significantly stronger at bullet, less so at blitz, and marginally stronger at long TC.
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Re: Quote for GM Shabalov on Chess FM.
frcha wrote:I would imagine chess gms probably "browse" through many games with engine analysis in background -- one simply does not have time to analyze every position for too long. Since FB/Ippo are much better at short time control -- Rybka 3 will be used at best for very long time analysis to see the alternative evaluation a few times. -- On the other hand - Isnt SF 1.7 a bit stronger at long tc or about the same ?
That is not how top GM's use an engine as an analysis tool. Most of their use of an engine is to test opening theory and probe possible new theoretical lines to surprise their opponent. For that, I am afraid a few seconds of analysis won't cut it.
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Re: Quote for GM Shabalov on Chess FM.
Since when is Shabalov a top GM?
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Re: Quote for GM Shabalov on Chess FM.
I know he has been rated over 2650, which is good enough for me. I think he is an extremely creative player, albeit not as consistent as one might hope.Dr.Ex wrote:Since when is Shabalov a top GM?
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Re: Quote for GM Shabalov on Chess FM.
Well, he won the US Championship 4 times.....Dr.Ex wrote:Since when is Shabalov a top GM?
Certainly, he used to be a top GM. Now he's a bit old, but still quite good.
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