SCCT - Blitz Rating List 2015
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SCCT - Blitz Rating List 2015
Hello Chess Friends !)
I've just published my newest blitz rating list:
http://www.sedatcanbaz.com/chess/?page_id=1339
Note that,
I merged also the ponder on games, played in my previous 1 core blitz competitions
For examples: games from scratch; open-source ratings etc...too
Note also that,
The current competition is still active...I plan to work a little bit more over this project
Greetings,
Sedat
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Re: SCCT - Blitz Rating List 2015
BTW, here is another new tournament with rapid time control:
http://www.sedatcanbaz.com/chess/?page_id=1326
http://www.sedatcanbaz.com/chess/?page_id=1326
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Re: SCCT - Blitz Rating List 2015
Thanks for running this. It is a pleasant surprise to see Komodo ahead of a quite recent version of Stockfish (just 3 weeks old) at a time control of just game/3', which is just about the worst time limit for us relative to SF. Also the Komodo version you used is older than the SF version, and I think we have more or less kept pace with SF since then. So this gives me reason to believe that once Stockfish 6 and Komodo 9 are released, Komodo may remain on top of the majority of the rating lists.Sedat Canbaz wrote:
Hello Chess Friends !)
I've just published my newest blitz rating list:
http://www.sedatcanbaz.com/chess/?page_id=1339
Note that,
I merged also the ponder on games, played in my previous 1 core blitz competitions
For examples: games from scratch; open-source ratings etc...too
Note also that,
The current competition is still active...I plan to work a little bit more over this project
Greetings,
Sedat
Komodo rules!
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Re: SCCT - Blitz Rating List 2015
Than you havent yet seen his results at 15m 3slkaufman wrote:Thanks for running this. It is a pleasant surprise to see Komodo ahead of a quite recent version of Stockfish (just 3 weeks old) at a time control of just game/3', which is just about the worst time limit for us relative to SF. Also the Komodo version you used is older than the SF version, and I think we have more or less kept pace with SF since then. So this gives me reason to believe that once Stockfish 6 and Komodo 9 are released, Komodo may remain on top of the majority of the rating lists.Sedat Canbaz wrote:
Hello Chess Friends !)
I've just published my newest blitz rating list:
http://www.sedatcanbaz.com/chess/?page_id=1339
Note that,
I merged also the ponder on games, played in my previous 1 core blitz competitions
For examples: games from scratch; open-source ratings etc...too
Note also that,
The current competition is still active...I plan to work a little bit more over this project
Greetings,
Sedat
..http://www.sedatcanbaz.com/chess/?page_id=1326
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SCCT Gladiators 2015
1 2 3 4 5 6
1 Stockfish 221214 x64 20.0 - 19.026.0 - 13.026.0 - 13.021.5 - 15.529.0 - 9.0** 122.5/192
2 Komodo 1318 x64 19.0 - 20.020.5 - 17.523.0 - 15.022.5 - 15.526.5 - 12.5 ** 111.5/192
3 Houdini 4 x64 13.0 - 26.017.5 - 20.517.5 - 21.520.0 - 18.028.0 - 10.0 ** 96.0/192
4 Gull 3 x64 13.0 - 26.015.0 - 23.021.5 - 17.522.5 - 16.522.0 - 15.0 ** 94.0/192
5 Fire 4 x64 15.5 - 21.515.5 - 22.518.0 - 20.016.5 - 22.520.0 - 19.0 ** 85.5/191
6 Rybka 4.1 x64 9.0 - 29.012.5 - 26.510.0 - 28.015.0 - 22.019.0 - 20.0 ** 65.5/191
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Re: SCCT - Blitz Rating List 2015
Those are tiny numbers of games, about 1/8 of his blitz list, so of little concern so far.beram wrote:Than you havent yet seen his results at 15m 3slkaufman wrote:Thanks for running this. It is a pleasant surprise to see Komodo ahead of a quite recent version of Stockfish (just 3 weeks old) at a time control of just game/3', which is just about the worst time limit for us relative to SF. Also the Komodo version you used is older than the SF version, and I think we have more or less kept pace with SF since then. So this gives me reason to believe that once Stockfish 6 and Komodo 9 are released, Komodo may remain on top of the majority of the rating lists.Sedat Canbaz wrote:
Hello Chess Friends !)
I've just published my newest blitz rating list:
http://www.sedatcanbaz.com/chess/?page_id=1339
Note that,
I merged also the ponder on games, played in my previous 1 core blitz competitions
For examples: games from scratch; open-source ratings etc...too
Note also that,
The current competition is still active...I plan to work a little bit more over this project
Greetings,
Sedat
..http://www.sedatcanbaz.com/chess/?page_id=1326
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SCCT Gladiators 2015 1 2 3 4 5 6 1 Stockfish 221214 x64 20.0 - 19.026.0 - 13.026.0 - 13.021.5 - 15.529.0 - 9.0** 122.5/192 2 Komodo 1318 x64 19.0 - 20.020.5 - 17.523.0 - 15.022.5 - 15.526.5 - 12.5 ** 111.5/192 3 Houdini 4 x64 13.0 - 26.017.5 - 20.517.5 - 21.520.0 - 18.028.0 - 10.0 ** 96.0/192 4 Gull 3 x64 13.0 - 26.015.0 - 23.021.5 - 17.522.5 - 16.522.0 - 15.0 ** 94.0/192 5 Fire 4 x64 15.5 - 21.515.5 - 22.518.0 - 20.016.5 - 22.520.0 - 19.0 ** 85.5/191 6 Rybka 4.1 x64 9.0 - 29.012.5 - 26.510.0 - 28.015.0 - 22.019.0 - 20.0 ** 65.5/191
Komodo rules!
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Re: SCCT - Blitz Rating List 2015
Not at all...it's my pleasurelkaufman wrote:
Thanks for running this. It is a pleasant surprise to see Komodo ahead of a quite recent version of Stockfish (just 3 weeks old) at a time control of just game/3', which is just about the worst time limit for us relative to SF. Also the Komodo version you used is older than the SF version, and I think we have more or less kept pace with SF since then. So this gives me reason to believe that once Stockfish 6 and Komodo 9 are released, Komodo may remain on top of the majority of the rating lists.
Yes, Komodo 1318 is real monster under these conditions...
And sometimes I am wondering,
Which one is stronger Stockfish or Komodo ?)
I think it all depends on used conditions...openings, time control, cores etc...
And as we see in my recent organized competitions...
We see sometimes SF sometimes Komodo to be the winner
In other words, it's quite exiting and interesting !)
Best,
Sedat
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Re: SCCT - Blitz Rating List 2015
beram wrote:Code: Select all
SCCT Gladiators 2015 1 2 3 4 5 6 1 Stockfish 221214 x64 20.0 - 19.026.0 - 13.026.0 - 13.021.5 - 15.529.0 - 9.0** 122.5/192 2 Komodo 1318 x64 19.0 - 20.020.5 - 17.523.0 - 15.022.5 - 15.526.5 - 12.5 ** 111.5/192 3 Houdini 4 x64 13.0 - 26.017.5 - 20.517.5 - 21.520.0 - 18.028.0 - 10.0 ** 96.0/192 4 Gull 3 x64 13.0 - 26.015.0 - 23.021.5 - 17.522.5 - 16.522.0 - 15.0 ** 94.0/192 5 Fire 4 x64 15.5 - 21.515.5 - 22.518.0 - 20.016.5 - 22.520.0 - 19.0 ** 85.5/191 6 Rybka 4.1 x64 9.0 - 29.012.5 - 26.510.0 - 28.015.0 - 22.019.0 - 20.0 ** 65.5/191
191/192 games per player ?)
I think in the database there are 200 games per player (total 600 games)
Best,
Sedat
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Re: SCCT - Blitz Rating List 2015
Yes, you said it well, which one is stronger depends on the conditions. Komodo almost always comes out on top with 16 or more cores, but otherwise it depends on the things you mention plus on whether it is a match or a tournament. Komodo does better against other opponents than Stockfish (generally) but struggles a bit in direct matches. I have a theory about this but it is based on knowledge of the program so I can't explain it here.Sedat Canbaz wrote:Not at all...it's my pleasurelkaufman wrote:
Thanks for running this. It is a pleasant surprise to see Komodo ahead of a quite recent version of Stockfish (just 3 weeks old) at a time control of just game/3', which is just about the worst time limit for us relative to SF. Also the Komodo version you used is older than the SF version, and I think we have more or less kept pace with SF since then. So this gives me reason to believe that once Stockfish 6 and Komodo 9 are released, Komodo may remain on top of the majority of the rating lists.
Yes, Komodo 1318 is real monster under these conditions...
And sometimes I am wondering,
Which one is stronger Stockfish or Komodo ?)
I think it all depends on used conditions...openings, time control, cores etc...
And as we see in my recent organized competitions...
We see sometimes SF sometimes Komodo to be the winner
In other words, it's quite exiting and interesting !)
Best,
Sedat
Komodo rules!
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Re: SCCT - Blitz Rating List 2015
lkaufman wrote:Yes, you said it well, which one is stronger depends on the conditions. Komodo almost always comes out on top with 16 or more cores, but otherwise it depends on the things you mention plus on whether it is a match or a tournament. Komodo does better against other opponents than Stockfish (generally) but struggles a bit in direct matches. I have a theory about this but it is based on knowledge of the program so I can't explain it here.Sedat Canbaz wrote:Not at all...it's my pleasurelkaufman wrote:
Thanks for running this. It is a pleasant surprise to see Komodo ahead of a quite recent version of Stockfish (just 3 weeks old) at a time control of just game/3', which is just about the worst time limit for us relative to SF. Also the Komodo version you used is older than the SF version, and I think we have more or less kept pace with SF since then. So this gives me reason to believe that once Stockfish 6 and Komodo 9 are released, Komodo may remain on top of the majority of the rating lists.
Yes, Komodo 1318 is real monster under these conditions...
And sometimes I am wondering,
Which one is stronger Stockfish or Komodo ?)
I think it all depends on used conditions...openings, time control, cores etc...
And as we see in my recent organized competitions...
We see sometimes SF sometimes Komodo to be the winner
In other words, it's quite exiting and interesting !)
Best,
Sedat
Agreed,
Probably Komodo MP is one of the rare engines, where with 16 or more cores is performing very good
It looks like mostly of the engines can not gain from the many cores...
And with a big possibility their Elo performance is affecting too...
That's why still I did not update my machines...
In other words,
Mostly of the passengers are still not ready to fly on the latest fast planes )!
And as a pilot, I don't wish to force those passengers in the risky areas )) !!
About in case of direct match: Komodo vs SF,
That's right...usually SF is doing better and here is an example (played at the current test):
Individual statistics:
1 Komodo 1318 x64 : 3340 1766 (+1226,=417,-123), 81.2 %
Stockfish 221214 x64 : 112 (+ 18,= 63,- 31), 44.2 %
Best,
Sedat
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Re: SCCT - Blitz Rating List 2015
Last Updates:
Cheng4 0.38 x64 (+116 Elo over Cheng4 0.36 x64)
Stockfish 110115 x64 (+24 Elo over Stockfish 221214 x64)
Great improvement!! Well-done to both chess engine creators !
SCCT - All Versions:
http://www.sedatcanbaz.com/chess/?page_id=1339
SCCT - Top 20:
http://www.sedatcanbaz.com/chess/?page_id=1478
More details about the current competition:
- No double games
- No games up to 15 moves
- No games lost on time
In other words,
The rating database is quite clean... !)
But however,
I plan to publish separately the lost games on time (maybe they will be useful for the next engine releases)
Best,
Sedat
Cheng4 0.38 x64 (+116 Elo over Cheng4 0.36 x64)
Stockfish 110115 x64 (+24 Elo over Stockfish 221214 x64)
Great improvement!! Well-done to both chess engine creators !
SCCT - All Versions:
http://www.sedatcanbaz.com/chess/?page_id=1339
SCCT - Top 20:
http://www.sedatcanbaz.com/chess/?page_id=1478
More details about the current competition:
- No double games
- No games up to 15 moves
- No games lost on time
In other words,
The rating database is quite clean... !)
But however,
I plan to publish separately the lost games on time (maybe they will be useful for the next engine releases)
Best,
Sedat