Hi,
there is a new version with some improvement in search and switched to new TensorRT 6.0 that enabled use of SE (squeeze-excitation) networks
https://github.com/dshawul/Scorpio/releases
as the larger do not work correct at the moment (wait for a bugfix) , I have tested this version with network 32930:
1 Scorpio 3.0.2 MCTS+NN ID-32930 +53 +20/=75/-5 57.50% 57.5/100
2 Stockfish 10.0 x64 1CPU -53 +5/=75/-20 42.50% 42.5/100
I know, these are only 100 games but they show a great improvement over the own maddex net. It seems to me - it is not easy to make a good own net for Scorpio. With it´s RTX GPU we will have to wait many months….
best wishes
Werner
Scorpio 3.0.2
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Re: Scorpio 3.0.2
Hi Werner,
Thanks for the test!
I am also surprized in a good way by this result even though it is just 100 games.
I suspect INT8 helped a lot here since it seems to perform better than lc0 with the same net.
For those who want to help out with network training here is my webpage: http://scorpiozero.ddns.net
Earlier clients had a bug that probably turned away many potential helpers, so please try again if that was your experience.
regards,
Daniel
Thanks for the test!
I am also surprized in a good way by this result even though it is just 100 games.
I suspect INT8 helped a lot here since it seems to perform better than lc0 with the same net.
For those who want to help out with network training here is my webpage: http://scorpiozero.ddns.net
Earlier clients had a bug that probably turned away many potential helpers, so please try again if that was your experience.
regards,
Daniel
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Re: Scorpio 3.0.2
And where exactly is this new version you just mentioned? It still shows the old version and not the updated one.Werner wrote: ↑Sun Oct 06, 2019 2:41 pm Hi,
there is a new version with some improvement in search and switched to new TensorRT 6.0 that enabled use of SE (squeeze-excitation) networks
https://github.com/dshawul/Scorpio/releases
as the larger do not work correct at the moment (wait for a bugfix) , I have tested this version with network 32930:
1 Scorpio 3.0.2 MCTS+NN ID-32930 +53 +20/=75/-5 57.50% 57.5/100
2 Stockfish 10.0 x64 1CPU -53 +5/=75/-20 42.50% 42.5/100
I know, these are only 100 games but they show a great improvement over the own maddex net. It seems to me - it is not easy to make a good own net for Scorpio. With it´s RTX GPU we will have to wait many months….
best wishes
Werner
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Re: Scorpio 3.0.2
When you download you get 3.0.2 ..i just tried it ..dubble click on exe ,type uci and i see 3.0.2 !
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Re: Scorpio 3.0.2
I suggest you use one of the installers, install.bat for windows and install.sh for linux.
It will automatically configure scorpio.ini for you depending on whether you have a GPU or not.
It will automatically configure scorpio.ini for you depending on whether you have a GPU or not.
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Re: Scorpio 3.0.2
Does not work.
I installed new Scorpio with install.bat on a new Notebook with RTX2060 (Windows 10 64bit). Then I started:
scorpio.bat runinpnn calibrate.epd calibrate.dat quit
But no calibrate.dat-file is built.
And when I try to run Scorpio (after changing the .ini File parameter from HALF to INT8 and then running
scorpio.bat float_type INT8 go quit)
, it says, calibrate.dat-file is missing (of course)
I installed new Scorpio with install.bat on a new Notebook with RTX2060 (Windows 10 64bit). Then I started:
scorpio.bat runinpnn calibrate.epd calibrate.dat quit
But no calibrate.dat-file is built.
And when I try to run Scorpio (after changing the .ini File parameter from HALF to INT8 and then running
scorpio.bat float_type INT8 go quit)
, it says, calibrate.dat-file is missing (of course)
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Re: Scorpio 3.0.2
Does not work for me either.
ScorpioNN installation with the install.bat failed for unknown reason (Threadripper 2990 WX, RTX 2080+2060, 64 GiB RAM, Microsoft Windows 10 x64 pro).
ScorpioNN installation with the install.bat failed for unknown reason (Threadripper 2990 WX, RTX 2080+2060, 64 GiB RAM, Microsoft Windows 10 x64 pro).
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Re: Scorpio 3.0.2
Strange. The installing works fine on my machine. But the calibrate.dat-file, which is needed for the (faster) INT8-calculations is not built...George Tsavdaris wrote: ↑Mon Oct 07, 2019 1:13 pm Does not work for me either.
ScorpioNN installation with the install.bat failed for unknown reason (Threadripper 2990 WX, RTX 2080+2060, 64 GiB RAM, Microsoft Windows 10 x64 pro).
After installation, more steps are needed (if Scorpio 3.0.2 would work properly) (of course, your NVIDIA-GPU-driver must be up:
-to-date)
1) run Scorpio with that parameters (create an empty textfile in the Windows/bin folder, rename it to a .bat-File, copy the text below in it, save the file and start the.bat-file with doubleclick):
scorpio.bat runinpnn calibrate.epd calibrate.dat quit
This should build a new file (very large (1.4GB)), called calibrate.dat. Scorpio 3 did that. Scorpio 3.0.2 not.
2) Change the "float_type" to "INT8" in scorpio.ini (and - if you want - choose another (better) NN (change the nn-path parameter in the scorpio.ini file to a lc0-NN)) and run scorpio one more time:
scorpio.bat float_type INT8 go quit
3) Finally run:
scorpio.bat go quit
Then, Scorpio should run with INT8. But, because Step 1 fails on my machine, I cannot continue to Step 3...
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Re: Scorpio 3.0.2
I wish it would be that easy as Leela.
Download the files and run them.
Download the files and run them.
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Re: Scorpio 3.0.2
Yes, but if you follow the 3 steps, I described here, Scorpio should work. At least in cutechess and Arena. In FritzGUI, it does not run, because FritzGUI does not allow .bat-files as engine-files.George Tsavdaris wrote: ↑Mon Oct 07, 2019 1:35 pm I wish it would be that easy as Leela.
Download the files and run them.
But I agree, the setup and handling of Scorpio is a nightmare, compared to lc0, Allie or Stockfish.