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If you compile Stockfish 14.1 with pop + neon + dotprod, then you should get around 60.000.000 nps.
Hopefully Stockfish developers have done some improvements on ARM CPUs.
You can ask them on https://discord.com or look at https://tests.stockfishchess.org/tests
Apple Silicon/M series
https://en.namu.wiki/w/Apple%20Silicon/M%20시리즈
M4 Ultra is stronger than RTX 4090 GPU.
Apple M4, M4 PRO, M4 MAX, M4 ULTRA
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Dariusz
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Re: Apple M4, M4 PRO, M4 MAX, M4 ULTRA
Excellent news !
Maybe it's time to upgrade from M1 to M4 ?
Maybe it's time to upgrade from M1 to M4 ?
Regards, Darius
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towforce
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That's not a sensible thing to say, and the video doesn't actually say it - so it's clickbait.
It's helpful to remember that choice of OS, be that ChromeOS, Windows, MacOS or Linux, tends to be "religion" rather than "careful analysis": I remain convinced that, for the majority of computer users, ChromeOS would be their best choice.
Human chess is partly about tactics and strategy, but mostly about memory
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Hai
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Re: Apple M4, M4 PRO, M4 MAX, M4 ULTRA
Yes it is time for a lot of people to upgrade.
There is a lot of room for speed ups on ARM devices, not only Apple devices but also on all mobile phones + a lot of tablets and notebooks and raspberry pi and... Read Anandtech - Future ARM Cortex + Neoverse µArchs Discussion. New 42 Pages with a lot of great stuff... to improve Stockfish and other engines on ARM devices https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/fu ... 82/page-42 See also: Arm A-Profile Architecture Developments 2024 https://community.arm.com/arm-community ... ments-2024 and the new: The Armv9.6 architecture extension https://developer.arm.com/documentation ... -extension + Armv9.5, Armv9.4, Armv9.3 and Armv9.2. SME2 https://developer.arm.com/documentation ... E-and-SME2 and the new SVE2.2
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Jouni
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Re: Apple M4, M4 PRO, M4 MAX, M4 ULTRA
I have never own any Apple product. Or even considered to buy.
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cpeters
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Tärve/Moi Jouni!
The macbook airs are brilliant! Formfactor/no noise and somewhat fast (macos is not so bad at all). With 'brew' you get some goodies from the (free) software-world. Otherwise it's an expensive unix-prison.
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towforce
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Please don't be sad: he need not die without having had the important human experience of the Apple Mac - he can watch a video!
Human chess is partly about tactics and strategy, but mostly about memory
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Hai
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The weaker MacBook Pro (only 14-inch) M4 MAX, with the only 1 TB slow RAM version
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High-end MSI Gaming notebook with newest Intel Core Ultra 9 285K and RTX 4090.
Result: 1-0
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High-end MSI Gaming notebook with newest Intel Core Ultra 9 285K and RTX 4090.
Result: 1-0
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Hai
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Running x86 AVX2 binary on Apple Silicon
https://github.com/official-stockfish/S ... ssues/5707
https://github.com/official-stockfish/S ... ssues/5707