is Leela deterministic in analysis? seems no

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is Leela deterministic in analysis? seems no

Post by Uri Blass »

I decided to analyze the initial position with rook odds by Leela twice
wtih contempt 420 and white side analysis
It seems that first iterations were the same but later I got some difference and I wonder what is te source of the difference(I do not have gpu)
first analysis
4/10 00:02 371 143 -14.21 e2-e4 d7-d5 e4xd5 Ng8-f6 Bf1-b5+ Bc8-d7 Bb5-c4 c7-c6 d5xc6 Nb8xc6
4/10 00:03 456 146 -14.58 c2-c4 Ng8-f6 Ng1-f3 c7-c5 Nb1-c3 Nb8-c6 g2-g3 g7-g6

second analysis showed

4/10 00:02 371 146 -14.21 e2-e4 d7-d5 e4xd5 Ng8-f6 Bf1-b5+ Bc8-d7 Bb5-c4 c7-c6 d5xc6 Nb8xc6
4/10 00:03 449 148 -14.23 c2-c4 Ng8-f6 Ng1-f3 c7-c5 Nb1-c3 Nb8-c6 e2-e4


Here is the full analysis
[d]rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/1NBQKBNR w Kkq - 0 1



Lc0 [001]:
1/2 00:00 6 162 -94.22 Ng1-f3 d7-d5
2/3 00:00 13 131 -14.63 Ng1-f3 Ng8-f6 d2-d4
2/4 00:00 24 126 -8.15 Ng1-f3 Ng8-f6 c2-c4 c7-c5
3/5 00:00 31 129 -9.40 Ng1-f3 Ng8-f6 d2-d4 d7-d5 c2-c4
3/6 00:00 65 137 -11.77 Ng1-f3 Ng8-f6 d2-d4 e7-e6 Bc1-f4 c7-c5
3/7 00:01 140 142 -12.83 e2-e4 d7-d5 e4xd5 Ng8-f6 Bf1-b5+ Bc8-d7 Bb5-e2
3/8 00:01 147 142 -12.79 e2-e4 d7-d5 e4xd5 Ng8-f6 Bf1-b5+ Bc8-d7 Bb5-e2 Nf6xd5
4/8 00:01 154 142 -13.54 e2-e4 d7-d5 e4xd5 Ng8-f6 c2-c4 c7-c6 Nb1-c3 c6xd5
3/8 00:01 203 143 -13.75 e2-e4 d7-d5 e4xd5 Ng8-f6 c2-c4 c7-c6 Nb1-c3 c6xd5
4/8 00:01 232 143 -13.75 e2-e4 d7-d5 e4xd5 Ng8-f6 c2-c4 c7-c6 Nb1-c3 c6xd5
3/8 00:01 253 141 -13.75 e2-e4 d7-d5 e4xd5 Ng8-f6 c2-c4 c7-c6 Nb1-c3 c6xd5
4/8 00:01 277 142 -13.75 e2-e4 d7-d5 e4xd5 Ng8-f6 c2-c4 c7-c6 Nb1-c3 c6xd5
4/9 00:02 364 143 -13.96 e2-e4 d7-d5 e4xd5 Ng8-f6 Bf1-b5+ Bc8-d7 Bb5-c4 c7-c6 d5xc6
4/10 00:02 371 143 -14.21 e2-e4 d7-d5 e4xd5 Ng8-f6 Bf1-b5+ Bc8-d7 Bb5-c4 c7-c6 d5xc6 Nb8xc6
4/10 00:03 456 146 -14.58 c2-c4 Ng8-f6 Ng1-f3 c7-c5 Nb1-c3 Nb8-c6 g2-g3 g7-g6
4/10 00:04 662 153 -14.01 a2-a3 e7-e5 e2-e4 Ng8-f6 Ng1-f3 Nf6xe4 d2-d3
4/10 00:06 1k 160 -15.31 Ng1-f3 Ng8-f6 c2-c4 c7-c5 Nb1-c3 Nb8-c6 g2-g3 g7-g6
5/10 00:08 1k 165 -17.28 Ng1-f3 Ng8-f6 c2-c4 c7-c5 Nb1-c3 Nb8-c6 g2-g3 g7-g6
5/11 00:11 2k 166 -16.88 Ng1-f3 Ng8-f6 c2-c4 c7-c5 Nb1-c3 Nb8-c6 g2-g3 g7-g6
5/11 00:16 3k 161 -17.35 Ng1-f3 Ng8-f6 c2-c4 c7-c5 Nb1-c3 Nb8-c6 g2-g3 g7-g6
5/12 00:17 3k 161 -16.80 Ng1-f3 c7-c6 Nb1-c3 d7-d5 d2-d4 Ng8-f6 Bc1-f4 Nf6-e4 e2-e3
5/12 00:22 4k 161 -17.14 Ng1-f3 d7-d5 a2-a3 c7-c5 b2-b4 e7-e6 b4xc5 Bf8xc5
5/12 00:27 5k 166 -17.64 Ng1-f3 Ng8-f6 e2-e3 d7-d5 a2-a3 c7-c5 Bf1-b5+ Bc8-d7 Bb5-e2
5/12 00:32 5k 169 -17.82 Ng1-f3 Ng8-f6 e2-e3 d7-d5 a2-a3 c7-c5 Bf1-b5+ Bc8-d7 Bb5-e2
5/12 00:37 7k 175 -18.28 Ng1-f3 Ng8-f6 g2-g3 g7-g6 c2-c4 c7-c5 Bf1-g2 Nb8-c6 Nb1-c3
5/13 00:38 7k 175 -18.28 Ng1-f3 Ng8-f6 g2-g3 g7-g6 c2-c4 c7-c5 Bf1-g2 Nb8-c6 Nb1-c3
5/13 00:43 8k 178 -18.79 Ng1-f3 Ng8-f6 e2-e3 d7-d5 a2-a3 c7-c5 Bf1-b5+ Bc8-d7 Bb5-e2
5/13 00:48 9k 179 -19.02 Ng1-f3 Ng8-f6 e2-e3 d7-d5 Bf1-e2 g7-g6 O-O Bf8-g7 d2-d4
5/13 00:53 10k 181 -18.72 Ng1-f3 Ng8-f6 e2-e3 d7-d5 Bf1-e2 g7-g6 O-O Bf8-g7 d2-d4 O-O
6/13 00:53 10k 181 -18.78 Ng1-f3 Ng8-f6 e2-e3 d7-d5 Bf1-e2 g7-g6 O-O Bf8-g7 d2-d4 O-O c2-c4
6/13 00:58 11k 183 -19.24 Ng1-f3 Ng8-f6 e2-e3 d7-d5 Bf1-e2 g7-g6 O-O Bf8-g7 d2-d4 O-O c2-c4
6/13 01:18 15k 191 -19.77 Ng1-f3 Ng8-f6 e2-e3 d7-d5 Bf1-e2 g7-g6 O-O Bf8-g7 d2-d4 O-O c2-c4
6/13 01:23 16k 193 -20.21 Ng1-f3 Ng8-f6 e2-e3 d7-d5 Bf1-e2 g7-g6 d2-d4 Bf8-g7 O-O O-O h2-h3 c7-c5
6/14 01:26 17k 194 -20.36 Ng1-f3 Ng8-f6 e2-e3 d7-d5 Bf1-e2 g7-g6 d2-d4 Bf8-g7 O-O O-O h2-h3 c7-c5
6/14 01:31 18k 195 -20.44 Ng1-f3 Ng8-f6 e2-e3 d7-d5 a2-a3 g7-g6 Bf1-e2 Bf8-g7 b2-b4 a7-a5 Bc1-b2 a5xb4
6/15 01:32 18k 195 -20.44 Ng1-f3 Ng8-f6 e2-e3 d7-d5 a2-a3 g7-g6 Bf1-e2 Bf8-g7 b2-b4 a7-a5 Bc1-b2 a5xb4
6/15 01:37 19k 195 -20.46 Ng1-f3 Ng8-f6 e2-e3 d7-d5 a2-a3 c7-c5 Bf1-e2 Nb8-c6 d2-d4 c5xd4 e3xd4 Bc8-g4 O-O e7-e6
6/15 02:07 26k 203 -22.02 Ng1-f3 Ng8-f6 e2-e3 d7-d5 a2-a3 c7-c5 Bf1-e2 Nb8-c6 d2-d4 c5xd4 e3xd4 Bc8-g4 O-O e7-e6
6/15 02:12 27k 204 -22.33 Ng1-f3 d7-d5 e2-e3 c7-c5 Bf1-e2 Nb8-c6 O-O e7-e5 d2-d4 c5xd4 e3xd4 e5-e4 Nf3-e5 Bf8-d6
6/16 02:16 28k 205 -22.39 Ng1-f3 d7-d5 e2-e3 c7-c5 Bf1-e2 Nb8-c6 d2-d4 c5xd4 e3xd4 Ng8-f6 O-O Bc8-g4 Bc1-f4 e7-e6 Nb1-c3 Bf8-d6
6/17 02:17 28k 205 -22.42 Ng1-f3 d7-d5 e2-e3 c7-c5 Bf1-e2 Nb8-c6 d2-d4 c5xd4 e3xd4 Ng8-f6 O-O Bc8-g4 Bc1-f4 e7-e6 Nb1-c3 Bf8-d6 Nf3-e5
6/18 02:18 29k 205 -22.50 Ng1-f3 d7-d5 e2-e3 c7-c5 Bf1-e2 Nb8-c6 d2-d4 c5xd4 e3xd4 Ng8-f6 O-O Bc8-g4 Bc1-f4 e7-e6 Nb1-c3 Bf8-d6 Nf3-e5 Bg4xe2
6/19 02:19 29k 205 -22.53 Ng1-f3 d7-d5 e2-e3 c7-c5 Bf1-e2 Nb8-c6 d2-d4 c5xd4 e3xd4 Ng8-f6 O-O Bc8-g4 Bc1-f4 e7-e6 Nb1-c3 Bf8-d6 Nf3-e5 Bg4xe2 Qd1xe2
6/19 03:24 44k 213 -23.51 Ng1-f3 d7-d5 e2-e3 c7-c5 Bf1-e2 Nb8-c6 d2-d4 c5xd4 e3xd4 Ng8-f6 O-O Bc8-g4 Bc1-f4 e7-e6 Nb1-c3 Bf8-d6 Nf3-e5 Bg4xe2 Qd1xe2
7/19 03:26 44k 213 -23.43 Ng1-f3 d7-d5 e2-e3 c7-c5 Bf1-e2 Nb8-c6 d2-d4 c5xd4 e3xd4 Ng8-f6 O-O Bc8-g4 Bc1-f4 e7-e6 Nb1-c3 Bf8-d6 Nf3-e5 Bg4xe2 Qd1xe2
7/19 03:31 45k 214 -23.57 Ng1-f3 d7-d5 e2-e3 c7-c5 Bf1-e2 Nb8-c6 d2-d4 c5xd4 e3xd4 Ng8-f6 O-O Bc8-g4 Bc1-f4 e7-e6 Nb1-c3 Bf8-d6 Nf3-e5 Bg4xe2 Qd1xe2
7/19 03:56 51k 216 -23.81 Ng1-f3 d7-d5 e2-e3 c7-c5 Bf1-e2 Nb8-c6 d2-d4 c5xd4 e3xd4 Ng8-f6 O-O Bc8-g4 Bc1-f4 e7-e6 Nb1-c3 Bf8-d6 Nf3-e5 Bg4xe2 Qd1xe2
7/19 04:01 52k 216 -23.89 Ng1-f3 d7-d5 e2-e3 c7-c5 Bf1-e2 Ng8-f6 O-O Nb8-c6 d2-d4 c5xd4 e3xd4 Bc8-g4 c2-c4 d5xc4 Nb1-c3 e7-e6
7/19 05:02 66k 217 -24.07 Ng1-f3 d7-d5 e2-e3 c7-c5 Bf1-e2 Ng8-f6 O-O Nb8-c6 d2-d4 c5xd4 e3xd4 Bc8-g4 c2-c4 d5xc4 Nb1-c3 e7-e6
7/19 05:07 67k 217 -24.11 Ng1-f3 d7-d5 e2-e3 c7-c5 Bf1-e2 Ng8-f6 O-O g7-g6 d2-d4 c5xd4 e3xd4 Nb8-c6 c2-c4 Bf8-g7 Nb1-c3 O-O h2-h3 d5xc4
7/19 05:12 68k 217 -24.18 Ng1-f3 d7-d5 e2-e3 c7-c5 Bf1-e2 Ng8-f6 O-O g7-g6 d2-d4 c5xd4 e3xd4 Nb8-c6 c2-c4 Bf8-g7 Nb1-c3 O-O h2-h3 d5xc4
7/19 05:17 69k 218 -24.18 Ng1-f3 d7-d5 e2-e3 c7-c5 Bf1-e2 Ng8-f6 O-O g7-g6 d2-d4 c5xd4 e3xd4 Nb8-c6 c2-c4 Bf8-g7 Nb1-c3 O-O h2-h3 d5xc4 Be2xc4
7/19 05:22 70k 218 -24.21 Ng1-f3 d7-d5 e2-e3 c7-c5 Bf1-e2 Ng8-f6 O-O Nb8-c6 d2-d4 c5xd4 e3xd4 g7-g6 c2-c4 Bf8-g7 Nb1-c3 O-O Rf1-e1 d5xc4
7/19 05:27 72k 218 -24.28 Ng1-f3 d7-d5 e2-e3 c7-c5 Bf1-e2 Ng8-f6 O-O Nb8-c6 d2-d4 c5xd4 e3xd4 g7-g6 c2-c4 Bf8-g7 Nb1-c3 O-O Rf1-e1 d5xc4 d4-d5
7/19 06:42 89k 220 -24.68 Ng1-f3 d7-d5 e2-e3 c7-c5 Bf1-e2 Ng8-f6 O-O Nb8-c6 d2-d4 c5xd4 e3xd4 g7-g6 c2-c4 Bf8-g7 Nb1-c3 O-O Rf1-e1 d5xc4 d4-d5
7/19 06:47 90k 221 -24.71 Ng1-f3 d7-d5 e2-e3 c7-c5 Bf1-e2 Ng8-f6 O-O Nb8-c6 d2-d4 c5xd4 e3xd4 Bc8-g4 c2-c4 e7-e6 Nb1-c3 d5xc4 Be2xc4
7/19 07:12 96k 222 -24.83 Ng1-f3 d7-d5 e2-e3 c7-c5 Bf1-e2 Ng8-f6 O-O Nb8-c6 d2-d4 c5xd4 e3xd4 Bc8-g4 c2-c4 e7-e6 Nb1-c3 d5xc4 Be2xc4
7/19 07:17 97k 222 -24.93 Ng1-f3 d7-d5 e2-e3 c7-c5 Bf1-e2 Ng8-f6 O-O Nb8-c6 d2-d4 c5xd4 e3xd4 Bc8-g4 c2-c4 e7-e6 Nb1-c3 d5xc4 Be2xc4 Bf8-e7
7/19 07:22 98k 222 -24.89 Ng1-f3 d7-d5 e2-e3 c7-c5 Bf1-e2 Ng8-f6 b2-b3 Nb8-c6 Bc1-b2 g7-g6 a2-a3 Bf8-g7 O-O O-O d2-d4 c5xd4
7/19 07:27 100k 222 -24.83 Ng1-f3 d7-d5 e2-e3 c7-c5 Bf1-e2 Ng8-f6 b2-b3 Nb8-c6 Bc1-b2 g7-g6 a2-a3 Bf8-g7 O-O O-O d2-d4 c5xd4 e3xd4
7/19 12:13 171k 232 -26.02 Ng1-f3 d7-d5 e2-e3 c7-c5 Bf1-e2 Ng8-f6 b2-b3 Nb8-c6 Bc1-b2 g7-g6 a2-a3 Bf8-g7 O-O O-O d2-d4 c5xd4 e3xd4
7/19 12:18 172k 232 -26.04 Ng1-f3 d7-d5 e2-e3 c7-c5 Bf1-e2 Nb8-c6 d2-d4 c5xd4 e3xd4 Ng8-f6 Nb1-c3 Bc8-g4 Bc1-f4 e7-e6 Nc3-b5 Ra8-c8
7/20 18:22 267k 242 -26.80 Ng1-f3 d7-d5 e2-e3 c7-c5 Bf1-e2 Nb8-c6 d2-d4 c5xd4 e3xd4 Ng8-f6 Nb1-c3 Bc8-g4 Bc1-f4 e7-e6 Nc3-b5 Ra8-c8
7/20 18:27 268k 242 -26.80 Ng1-f3 d7-d5 e2-e3 c7-c5 Bf1-e2 Nb8-c6 d2-d4 c5xd4 e3xd4 Ng8-f6 O-O Bc8-g4 c2-c4 d5xc4 Nb1-c3 e7-e6 Be2xc4 Bf8-e7
7/20 18:52 275k 242 -26.86 Ng1-f3 d7-d5 e2-e3 c7-c5 Bf1-e2 Nb8-c6 d2-d4 c5xd4 e3xd4 Ng8-f6 O-O Bc8-g4 c2-c4 d5xc4 Nb1-c3 e7-e6 Be2xc4 Bf8-e7
8/20 18:52 275k 242 -26.86 Ng1-f3 d7-d5 e2-e3 c7-c5 Bf1-e2 Nb8-c6 d2-d4 c5xd4 e3xd4 Ng8-f6 O-O Bc8-g4 c2-c4 d5xc4 Nb1-c3 e7-e6 Be2xc4 Bf8-e7
8/20 18:57 276k 242 -26.93 Ng1-f3 d7-d5 e2-e3 c7-c5 Bf1-e2 Nb8-c6 O-O Ng8-f6 d2-d4 c5xd4 e3xd4 Bc8-g4 c2-c4 d5xc4 Be2xc4 e7-e6 Nb1-c3 Bg4xf3 Qd1xf3
8/20 19:02 277k 242 -26.94 Ng1-f3 d7-d5 e2-e3 c7-c5 Bf1-e2 Nb8-c6 d2-d4 c5xd4 e3xd4 Ng8-f6 O-O Bc8-g4 c2-c4 d5xc4 Nb1-c3 e7-e6 Be2xc4 Bf8-e7
8/20 19:07 279k 242 -26.94 Ng1-f3 d7-d5 e2-e3 c7-c5 Bf1-e2 Nb8-c6 d2-d4 c5xd4 e3xd4 Ng8-f6 Nb1-c3 Bc8-g4 Bc1-f4 e7-e6 Nc3-b5 Ra8-c8
8/20 19:17 281k 242 -26.99 Ng1-f3 d7-d5 e2-e3 c7-c5 Bf1-e2 Nb8-c6 d2-d4 c5xd4 e3xd4 Ng8-f6 Nb1-c3 Bc8-g4 Bc1-f4 e7-e6 Nc3-b5 Ra8-c8
8/20 19:22 283k 243 -26.97 Ng1-f3 d7-d5 e2-e3 c7-c5 Bf1-e2 Nb8-c6 d2-d4 c5xd4 e3xd4 Ng8-f6 O-O Bc8-g4 c2-c4 d5xc4 Nb1-c3 e7-e6 Be2xc4 Bf8-e7
8/20 26:19 386k 244 -26.98 Ng1-f3 d7-d5 e2-e3 c7-c5 Bf1-e2 Nb8-c6 d2-d4 c5xd4 e3xd4 Ng8-f6 O-O Bc8-g4 c2-c4 d5xc4 Nb1-c3 e7-e6 Be2xc4 Bf8-e7

Later I repeat the analysis and got the following:
FEN: rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/1NBQKBNR w Kkq - 0 1

Lc0 [001]:
1/2 00:00 6 150 -94.22 Ng1-f3 d7-d5
2/3 00:00 13 138 -14.63 Ng1-f3 Ng8-f6 d2-d4
2/4 00:00 24 132 -8.15 Ng1-f3 Ng8-f6 c2-c4 c7-c5
3/5 00:00 31 121 -9.40 Ng1-f3 Ng8-f6 d2-d4 d7-d5 c2-c4
3/6 00:00 65 133 -11.77 Ng1-f3 Ng8-f6 d2-d4 e7-e6 Bc1-f4 c7-c5
3/7 00:01 140 141 -12.83 e2-e4 d7-d5 e4xd5 Ng8-f6 Bf1-b5+ Bc8-d7 Bb5-e2
3/8 00:01 147 141 -12.79 e2-e4 d7-d5 e4xd5 Ng8-f6 Bf1-b5+ Bc8-d7 Bb5-e2 Nf6xd5
4/8 00:01 154 141 -13.54 e2-e4 d7-d5 e4xd5 Ng8-f6 c2-c4 c7-c6 Nb1-c3 c6xd5
3/8 00:01 203 143 -13.75 e2-e4 d7-d5 e4xd5 Ng8-f6 c2-c4 c7-c6 Nb1-c3 c6xd5
4/8 00:01 232 145 -13.75 e2-e4 d7-d5 e4xd5 Ng8-f6 c2-c4 c7-c6 Nb1-c3 c6xd5
3/8 00:01 253 144 -13.75 e2-e4 d7-d5 e4xd5 Ng8-f6 c2-c4 c7-c6 Nb1-c3 c6xd5
4/8 00:01 277 145 -13.75 e2-e4 d7-d5 e4xd5 Ng8-f6 c2-c4 c7-c6 Nb1-c3 c6xd5
4/9 00:02 364 146 -13.96 e2-e4 d7-d5 e4xd5 Ng8-f6 Bf1-b5+ Bc8-d7 Bb5-c4 c7-c6 d5xc6
4/10 00:02 371 146 -14.21 e2-e4 d7-d5 e4xd5 Ng8-f6 Bf1-b5+ Bc8-d7 Bb5-c4 c7-c6 d5xc6 Nb8xc6
4/10 00:03 449 148 -14.23 c2-c4 Ng8-f6 Ng1-f3 c7-c5 Nb1-c3 Nb8-c6 e2-e4
4/10 00:04 662 151 -14.01 a2-a3 e7-e5 e2-e4 Ng8-f6 Ng1-f3 Nf6xe4 d2-d3
4/10 00:07 1k 146 -15.31 Ng1-f3 Ng8-f6 c2-c4 c7-c5 Nb1-c3 Nb8-c6 g2-g3 g7-g6
5/10 00:08 1k 148 -17.28 Ng1-f3 Ng8-f6 c2-c4 c7-c5 Nb1-c3 Nb8-c6 g2-g3 g7-g6
5/11 00:12 2k 150 -16.88 Ng1-f3 Ng8-f6 c2-c4 c7-c5 Nb1-c3 Nb8-c6 g2-g3 g7-g6
5/11 00:17 3k 154 -17.35 Ng1-f3 Ng8-f6 c2-c4 c7-c5 Nb1-c3 Nb8-c6 g2-g3 g7-g6
5/12 00:18 3k 154 -16.80 Ng1-f3 c7-c6 Nb1-c3 d7-d5 d2-d4 Ng8-f6 Bc1-f4 Nf6-e4 e2-e3
5/12 00:23 4k 156 -17.25 Ng1-f3 d7-d5 g2-g3 Nb8-c6 d2-d4 Ng8-f6 Bf1-g2 g7-g6 Nb1-c3 Bf8-g7
5/12 00:28 4k 154 -17.42 Ng1-f3 d7-d5 e2-e3 Ng8-f6 Bf1-e2 c7-c5 O-O Nb8-c6 d2-d4
5/12 00:33 5k 154 -17.73 Ng1-f3 Ng8-f6 e2-e3 d7-d5 a2-a3 c7-c5 Bf1-b5+ Bc8-d7 Bb5-e2
5/12 00:38 6k 160 -18.28 Ng1-f3 Ng8-f6 g2-g3 g7-g6 c2-c4 c7-c5 Bf1-g2 Nb8-c6 Nb1-c3
5/13 00:40 7k 163 -18.28 Ng1-f3 Ng8-f6 g2-g3 g7-g6 c2-c4 c7-c5 Bf1-g2 Nb8-c6 Nb1-c3
5/13 00:45 8k 168 -18.79 Ng1-f3 Ng8-f6 e2-e3 d7-d5 a2-a3 c7-c5 Bf1-b5+ Bc8-d7 Bb5-e2
5/13 00:50 9k 171 -18.99 Ng1-f3 Ng8-f6 e2-e3 d7-d5 Bf1-e2 g7-g6 O-O Bf8-g7 d2-d4
5/13 00:55 10k 172 -18.70 Ng1-f3 Ng8-f6 e2-e3 d7-d5 Bf1-e2 g7-g6 O-O Bf8-g7 d2-d4 O-O
6/13 00:56 10k 172 -18.78 Ng1-f3 Ng8-f6 e2-e3 d7-d5 Bf1-e2 g7-g6 O-O Bf8-g7 d2-d4 O-O c2-c4
6/13 01:01 11k 174 -19.24 Ng1-f3 Ng8-f6 e2-e3 d7-d5 Bf1-e2 g7-g6 O-O Bf8-g7 d2-d4 O-O c2-c4
6/13 01:21 15k 186 -19.82 Ng1-f3 Ng8-f6 e2-e3 d7-d5 Bf1-e2 g7-g6 O-O Bf8-g7 d2-d4 O-O c2-c4
6/13 01:26 16k 189 -20.23 Ng1-f3 Ng8-f6 e2-e3 d7-d5 Bf1-e2 g7-g6 d2-d4 Bf8-g7 O-O O-O h2-h3 c7-c5
6/14 01:28 17k 190 -20.36 Ng1-f3 Ng8-f6 e2-e3 d7-d5 Bf1-e2 g7-g6 d2-d4 Bf8-g7 O-O O-O h2-h3 c7-c5
6/14 01:33 18k 190 -20.44 Ng1-f3 Ng8-f6 e2-e3 d7-d5 a2-a3 g7-g6 Bf1-e2 Bf8-g7 b2-b4 a7-a5 Bc1-b2 a5xb4
6/15 01:34 18k 190 -20.44 Ng1-f3 Ng8-f6 e2-e3 d7-d5 a2-a3 g7-g6 Bf1-e2 Bf8-g7 b2-b4 a7-a5 Bc1-b2 a5xb4
6/15 01:39 19k 191 -20.47 Ng1-f3 Ng8-f6 e2-e3 d7-d5 a2-a3 c7-c5 Bf1-e2 Nb8-c6 d2-d4 c5xd4 e3xd4 Bc8-g4 O-O e7-e6
6/15 02:09 26k 199 -22.02 Ng1-f3 Ng8-f6 e2-e3 d7-d5 a2-a3 c7-c5 Bf1-e2 Nb8-c6 d2-d4 c5xd4 e3xd4 Bc8-g4 O-O e7-e6
6/15 02:14 27k 200 -22.33 Ng1-f3 d7-d5 e2-e3 c7-c5 Bf1-e2 Nb8-c6 O-O e7-e5 d2-d4 c5xd4 e3xd4 e5-e4 Nf3-e5 Bf8-d6
6/15 02:19 28k 200 -22.40 Ng1-f3 d7-d5 e2-e3 c7-c5 Bf1-e2 Nb8-c6 d2-d4 c5xd4 e3xd4 Ng8-f6 O-O Bc8-g4 Bc1-f4 e7-e6 c2-c3
6/16 02:19 28k 200 -22.39 Ng1-f3 d7-d5 e2-e3 c7-c5 Bf1-e2 Nb8-c6 d2-d4 c5xd4 e3xd4 Ng8-f6 O-O Bc8-g4 Bc1-f4 e7-e6 Nb1-c3 Bf8-d6
6/17 02:20 28k 200 -22.42 Ng1-f3 d7-d5 e2-e3 c7-c5 Bf1-e2 Nb8-c6 d2-d4 c5xd4 e3xd4 Ng8-f6 O-O Bc8-g4 Bc1-f4 e7-e6 Nb1-c3 Bf8-d6 Nf3-e5
6/18 02:22 29k 201 -22.50 Ng1-f3 d7-d5 e2-e3 c7-c5 Bf1-e2 Nb8-c6 d2-d4 c5xd4 e3xd4 Ng8-f6 O-O Bc8-g4 Bc1-f4 e7-e6 Nb1-c3 Bf8-d6 Nf3-e5 Bg4xe2
6/19 02:22 29k 201 -22.53 Ng1-f3 d7-d5 e2-e3 c7-c5 Bf1-e2 Nb8-c6 d2-d4 c5xd4 e3xd4 Ng8-f6 O-O Bc8-g4 Bc1-f4 e7-e6 Nb1-c3 Bf8-d6 Nf3-e5 Bg4xe2 Qd1xe2
6/19 03:27 43k 207 -23.40 Ng1-f3 d7-d5 e2-e3 c7-c5 Bf1-e2 Nb8-c6 d2-d4 c5xd4 e3xd4 Ng8-f6 O-O Bc8-g4 Bc1-f4 e7-e6 Nb1-c3 Bf8-d6 Nf3-e5 Bg4xe2 Qd1xe2
7/19 03:32 44k 208 -23.43 Ng1-f3 d7-d5 e2-e3 c7-c5 Bf1-e2 Nb8-c6 d2-d4 c5xd4 e3xd4 Ng8-f6 O-O Bc8-g4 Bc1-f4 e7-e6 Nb1-c3 Bf8-d6 Nf3-e5 Bg4xe2 Qd1xe2
7/19 03:37 45k 208 -23.57 Ng1-f3 d7-d5 e2-e3 c7-c5 Bf1-e2 Nb8-c6 d2-d4 c5xd4 e3xd4 Ng8-f6 O-O Bc8-g4 Bc1-f4 e7-e6 Nb1-c3 Bf8-d6 Nf3-e5 Bg4xe2 Qd1xe2
7/19 04:07 52k 210 -23.85 Ng1-f3 d7-d5 e2-e3 c7-c5 Bf1-e2 Nb8-c6 d2-d4 c5xd4 e3xd4 Ng8-f6 O-O Bc8-g4 Bc1-f4 e7-e6 Nb1-c3 Bf8-d6 Nf3-e5 Bg4xe2 Qd1xe2
7/19 04:12 53k 210 -23.93 Ng1-f3 d7-d5 e2-e3 c7-c5 Bf1-e2 Ng8-f6 O-O Nb8-c6 d2-d4 c5xd4 e3xd4 Bc8-g4 c2-c4 d5xc4 Nb1-c3 e7-e6
7/19 05:12 66k 212 -24.08 Ng1-f3 d7-d5 e2-e3 c7-c5 Bf1-e2 Ng8-f6 O-O Nb8-c6 d2-d4 c5xd4 e3xd4 Bc8-g4 c2-c4 d5xc4 Nb1-c3 e7-e6
7/19 05:17 68k 212 -24.18 Ng1-f3 d7-d5 e2-e3 c7-c5 Bf1-e2 Ng8-f6 O-O g7-g6 d2-d4 c5xd4 e3xd4 Nb8-c6 c2-c4 Bf8-g7 Nb1-c3 O-O h2-h3 d5xc4
7/19 05:22 69k 212 -24.18 Ng1-f3 d7-d5 e2-e3 c7-c5 Bf1-e2 Ng8-f6 O-O g7-g6 d2-d4 c5xd4 e3xd4 Nb8-c6 c2-c4 Bf8-g7 Nb1-c3 O-O h2-h3 d5xc4
7/19 05:27 70k 213 -24.17 Ng1-f3 d7-d5 e2-e3 c7-c5 Bf1-e2 Ng8-f6 O-O Nb8-c6 d2-d4 c5xd4 e3xd4 g7-g6 c2-c4 Bf8-g7 Nb1-c3 O-O Rf1-e1 d5xc4
7/19 05:32 71k 213 -24.25 Ng1-f3 d7-d5 e2-e3 c7-c5 Bf1-e2 Ng8-f6 O-O Nb8-c6 d2-d4 c5xd4 e3xd4 g7-g6 c2-c4 Bf8-g7 Nb1-c3 O-O Rf1-e1 d5xc4 d4-d5
7/19 05:57 77k 214 -24.48 Ng1-f3 d7-d5 e2-e3 c7-c5 Bf1-e2 Ng8-f6 O-O Nb8-c6 d2-d4 c5xd4 e3xd4 g7-g6 c2-c4 Bf8-g7 Nb1-c3 O-O Rf1-e1 d5xc4 d4-d5
Karol Majewski
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Re: is Leela deterministic in analysis? seems no

Post by Karol Majewski »

It's not deterministic anymore. I've reported this couple of years ago and nothing has changed since then:

https://github.com/LeelaChessZero/lc0/issues/1769
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Eelco de Groot
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Re: is Leela deterministic in analysis? seems no

Post by Eelco de Groot »

Knowing nothing about Leela I think it would be natural to expect this, if the search is Monte Carlo, so that at least semi random moves get chosen for the tactical search, but I'm sure there are people in the forum who know Leela better than me :lol:
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Re: is Leela deterministic in analysis? seems no

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If you are trying to get something close to deterministic I would hope you have Dirichlet Noise and Temperature both disabled. I have not looked at the source code the Leela in a while but I would assume that it uses asynchronous batching so timing will get you further from deterministic results. Small of timing differences can really compound move selection differences in MCTS.