open apology to the chess engine community

terminator · Post by **terminator** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 11:07 am

For Justice to have been done it should also be seen to have been done i.e. Justice must be done and seen to be done. There is no mention on the xyclOps website about it being a Fruit/Toga derivative so the public can still be mislead. To issue an apology only here at CCC and then carry on with business as usual seems hypocritical.

gerold · Post by **gerold** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 3:17 pm

terminator wrote:For Justice to have been done it should also be seen to have been done i.e. Justice must be done and seen to be done. There is no mention on the xyclOps website about it being a Fruit/Toga derivative so the public can still be mislead. To issue an apology only here at CCC and then carry on with business as usual seems hypocritical.

Maybe he is working on 1.3 version.

Gerold.

P.S. I don.t think any version is available for download.

David Dahlem · Post by **David Dahlem** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 3:38 pm

gerold wrote:
terminator wrote:For Justice to have been done it should also be seen to have been done i.e. Justice must be done and seen to be done. There is no mention on the xyclOps website about it being a Fruit/Toga derivative so the public can still be mislead. To issue an apology only here at CCC and then carry on with business as usual seems hypocritical.
Maybe he is working on 1.3 version.

Gerold.

P.S. I don.t think any version is available for download.

I think he promised to release xyclOps as open source, but so far, nothing!

Regards
Dave

GenoM · Post by **GenoM** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:27 pm

hi Norm
if you release this http://www.xyclops.com/cyclone.html with all these features, it would be as some kind of breaktrough in the chess engines history, i think.
Regards,
Geno

terminator · Post by **terminator** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 8:45 pm

gerold wrote:Maybe he is working on 1.3 version.

Gerold.

P.S. I don.t think any version is available for download.

Whichever version he is working on is irrelevant. Personally I would expect :-

- the terms of the GPL to be honoured.
- proper attribution of Fruit/Toga be made on the website.

Otherwise the "apology" is meaningless.

fern · Post by **fern** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 11:38 pm

As I said to him in a post above this, his behaviour seemed to me a gesture of cunning instead of sheer desire to do justice and offer a felt confession.
He just did damage control and no more IF he is not following suite his words here.

Fernando

mariaclara · Post by **mariaclara** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 12:00 am

hey, takes a real

cooool guy to come out front...

terminator · Post by **terminator** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 9:47 am

Interesting there is a website called http://gpl-violations.org/index.html where they list GPL violations. I have not seen any chess software in there.

Zach Wegner · Post by **Zach Wegner** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 6:14 pm

terminator wrote:Interesting there is a website called http://gpl-violations.org/index.html where they list GPL violations. I have not seen any chess software in there.

Interesting how I mentioned this in another xyclops thread....

Troll.

terminator · Post by **terminator** » Sat Jul 26, 2008 2:15 am

What changes did Norman Schmidt, mean when he said that he has made changes to the xyclops website?

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