How do you use Computers to develop ...

[AdminX]

".. the new line with 12.a4 was only just discovered when the DVD was recorded. I thought I had found good ways to equalize but now I am not so sure. I have some tricks up my sleeve in that variation but it will require more practical tests, specially to refute Kaufmann's analysis in his latest repertoire book."

http://en.chessbase.com/post/ramirez-ar ... -the-benko

To Larry or any strong IM or GM,

How do you use Computers to develop or refute original opening ideas? Do you have or set any evaluation markers to guide your thinking? What is your personal technique for doing this type of research?

Thanks in Advance.

[jdart]

I had to laugh at Ramirez's comment. I assume he is referring to this line: 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 c5 3. d5 b5 4. cxb5 a6 5. bxa6 g6 6. Nc3 Bxa6 7. e4 Bxf1 8.
Kxf1 d6 9. Nf3 Bg7 10. g3 O-O 11. Kg2 Nbd7 12. a4, and if so he is admitting that he is advertising a DVD that is missing the most critical line in the Benko! And it is not a new move: Megabase has games going back to 1994, although it was only in the last few years that strong GMs started playing it and discovered how strong it was. I think this is an example of a "forgotten" move that gets a new look. Once it starts to be successful, other players notice and it gains in popularity.

--Jon

[AdminX]

I had to laugh at Ramirez's comment. I assume he is referring to this line: 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 c5 3. d5 b5 4. cxb5 a6 5. bxa6 g6 6. Nc3 Bxa6 7. e4 Bxf1 8.
Kxf1 d6 9. Nf3 Bg7 10. g3 O-O 11. Kg2 Nbd7 12. a4, and if so he is admitting that he is advertising a DVD that is missing the most critical line in the Benko! And it is not a new move: Megabase has games going back to 1994, although it was only in the last few years that strong GMs started playing it and discovered how strong it was. I think this is an example of a "forgotten" move that gets a new look. Once it starts to be successful, other players notice and it gains in popularity.

--Jon

Yeah, I realized that as well. Would be nice if they could push it out as a update however.

[Dhanish]

A screenshot from the ICCF database before 12.a4:
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Many OTB GMs have joined ICCF, possibly only to access the ICCF database!

[S.Taylor]

How do you use Computers to develop or refute original opening ideas?

play what ever opening move or moves you think you would like to see as your opening, or opening line, then look at the top lines on infinite for as long as you wish, then play your next move when you are ready, and see again what the top evaluation lines are thinking of.

Atleast that is what _I_ used to do.

I don't know if modern engines support this any more, as computer chess interfaces have deteriorated and regressed considerably since 10 years ago.

If chess playing interfaces were like they were then, you would not even be asking the question now.

At any rate, you could always do it (what i am suggesting) with hiarcs 7 and some other programs.

Nowdays, i don't think it is easy to use chess computers as a tool. If you are serious about chess, don't use computers. Hire a chess coach and join a club, and try to work on your own at other times, with a notebook to write down your notes.

[Werewolf]

".. the new line with 12.a4 was only just discovered when the DVD was recorded. I thought I had found good ways to equalize but now I am not so sure. I have some tricks up my sleeve in that variation but it will require more practical tests, specially to refute Kaufmann's analysis in his latest repertoire book."

http://en.chessbase.com/post/ramirez-ar ... -the-benko

To Larry or any strong IM or GM,

How do you use Computers to develop or refute original opening ideas? Do you have or set any evaluation markers to guide your thinking? What is your personal technique for doing this type of research?

Thanks in Advance.

1. Invest in as many fast computers as you can afford
2. Get them in the same LAN.
3. Install Aquarium
4. Run IDeA and start creating monster IDeA projects
5. Expect stunning results

Works for me. I added over 200 elo to my grading (that's human over-the-board grading) when I started getting my openings sorted out.

[Uri Blass]

".. the new line with 12.a4 was only just discovered when the DVD was recorded. I thought I had found good ways to equalize but now I am not so sure. I have some tricks up my sleeve in that variation but it will require more practical tests, specially to refute Kaufmann's analysis in his latest repertoire book."

http://en.chessbase.com/post/ramirez-ar ... -the-benko

To Larry or any strong IM or GM,

How do you use Computers to develop or refute original opening ideas? Do you have or set any evaluation markers to guide your thinking? What is your personal technique for doing this type of research?

Thanks in Advance.

1. Invest in as many fast computers as you can afford
2. Get them in the same LAN.
3. Install Aquarium
4. Run IDeA and start creating monster IDeA projects
5. Expect stunning results

Works for me. I added over 200 elo to my grading (that's human over-the-board grading) when I started getting my openings sorted out.

I do not see your human over-the board grading here

https://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=421294

I can only see that you played one game when you won against a player with rating of 2355

http://www.365chess.com/view_game.php?g=3672576

[Werewolf]

".. the new line with 12.a4 was only just discovered when the DVD was recorded. I thought I had found good ways to equalize but now I am not so sure. I have some tricks up my sleeve in that variation but it will require more practical tests, specially to refute Kaufmann's analysis in his latest repertoire book."

http://en.chessbase.com/post/ramirez-ar ... -the-benko

To Larry or any strong IM or GM,

How do you use Computers to develop or refute original opening ideas? Do you have or set any evaluation markers to guide your thinking? What is your personal technique for doing this type of research?

Thanks in Advance.

1. Invest in as many fast computers as you can afford
2. Get them in the same LAN.
3. Install Aquarium
4. Run IDeA and start creating monster IDeA projects
5. Expect stunning results

Works for me. I added over 200 elo to my grading (that's human over-the-board grading) when I started getting my openings sorted out.

I do not see your human over-the board grading here

https://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=421294

I can only see that you played one game when you won against a player with rating of 2355

http://www.365chess.com/view_game.php?g=3672576

What's your point? That I'm making it up?

http://www.ecfgrading.org.uk/new/menu.php

Enter surname etc.

[Uri Blass]

I did not say that you are making it up but only that I am surprised not to find you in the fide rating list(I believe that in israel almost every active player with playing strength above fide rating 2000 is in the fide list because every tournament that they play is for fide rating).

I see that you improved from level of ECF grading of 157 in July 2004 to level of 196 in January 2015 when your best grading was 204 and it seems that you improved significantly in some years that you did not play(2004-2008).

[Werewolf]

I did not say that you are making it up but only that I am surprised not to find you in the fide rating list(I believe that in israel almost every active player with playing strength above fide rating 2000 is in the fide list because every tournament that they play is for fide rating).

I see that you improved from level of ECF grading of 157 in July 2004 to level of 196 in January 2015 when your best grading was 204 and it seems that you improved significantly in some years that you did not play(2004-2008).

OK, sorry Uri, I wasn't sure what you meant.

I got caught up with the Rybka phenomenon and that lead to an involvement with IDeA. Between the two of them I started thinking about chess evaluation in a new way as ideas were explained and verified by results. I reckon that started in 2006-2007 and that my grading (sort of ) reflects that. With IDeA openings were (for the first time IMO) accessible to be analysed deeply by machines and that lead me to get a better understanding of the middlegame as well.

But now I've hit another plateau and I wish we could port some of our understanding of engine search into human thinking (null move?) - but this is probably unrealistic.