Patricia 3

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Re: Patricia 3

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tapio wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 1:19 pm Recent Android release has only 2 options, skill and # of threads. Intended?
Thanks for the release.
Will you touch thinking times? It feels weird if after 1.e4 it starts thinking for 20 seconds.
Use an opening book. Allows you to choose the types of openings you'll face as well as speed up the opening play.
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Re: Patricia 3

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BrendanJNorman wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 2:13 pm
tapio wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 1:19 pm Recent Android release has only 2 options, skill and # of threads. Intended?
Thanks for the release.
Will you touch thinking times? It feels weird if after 1.e4 it starts thinking for 20 seconds.
Use an opening book. Allows you to choose the types of openings you'll face as well as speed up the opening play.
A small Gambit Openingbook for Patricia. Made of the Gambit files by J.Noomen (double lines were deleted).

How to use in FritzGUI: Just choose "Normal" Book-Options (make sure, Tournament moves are disabled)

How to use in Droidfish: Put all 3 book-files in the book-folder of Droidfish on your mobile device. Make sure, Book Length is maximum/unlimited and Tournament mode is off.

Mention, all moves have the same probabilty to be played. So, even though the book is very small,it should lead to a huge variety of play.

The pgn-file with the Noomen Gambit-lines is included in the download, so you can use it to build books for other GUIs. Mention, I disabled some first moves of white (1.b4, 1.g4, 1.f4) in the book.

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Re: Patricia 3

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Nice, thank you. Yes I used GambitLines.bin before (with strong book randomisation).
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Re: Patricia 3

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For those who prefer the Polyglot format (Noomen_Gambits.bin):
https://app.box.com/s/olc6aans8td9dgr4uzlytwosmrf0b20v

All weights have been set to 1 so that each move has the same probability of being played.
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Re: Patricia 3

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Archimedes wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 5:06 pm For those who prefer the Polyglot format (Noomen_Gambits.bin):
https://app.box.com/s/olc6aans8td9dgr4uzlytwosmrf0b20v

All weights have been set to 1 so that each move has the same probability of being played.
Thx - but this one has b4 g4 f4 btw.
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Re: Patricia 3

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tapio wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 5:24 pm
Archimedes wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 5:06 pm For those who prefer the Polyglot format (Noomen_Gambits.bin):
https://app.box.com/s/olc6aans8td9dgr4uzlytwosmrf0b20v

All weights have been set to 1 so that each move has the same probability of being played.
Thx - but this one has b4 g4 f4 btw.
I have not made any changes in the PGN file.
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Re: Patricia 3

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What if both, skill level and UCI_ELO are set, what is being used?
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Re: Patricia 3

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tapio wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 10:37 pm What if both, skill level and UCI_ELO are set, what is being used?
whichever one the GUI sets last
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Re: Patricia 3

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I made a new version of my small GambitBook for Patricia:

https://www.sp-cc.de/files/noomengambit_book.7z

1.b4, 1.g4 and 1.f4 were deleted (games in the pgn-file deleted, too).
Now, opening-books in these formats are included in the download:

FritzGUI/DroidFish
Arena
Shredder
Polylgot (=bin)

Mention, in the books for Shredder, Arena and Polyglot all moves have the normal probabilities (the more often the move is found in the book, the more often it is played).
As usual, choose "Normal" Book-Options (make sure, Tournament moves are disabled)!
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Re: Patricia 3

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pohl4711 wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2024 6:49 amMention, in the books for Shredder, Arena and Polyglot all moves have the normal probabilities (the more often the move is found in the book, the more often it is played).
Many thanks, I noticed (ctg and bin book in DroidFish) the probability is just evenly distributed, eg this is after e4:



Book randomisation is 0 and tourna/main lines off.