Patricia 5

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peter
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Re: Patricia 5

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In Cutechess GUI the Skill Level=true can be set at engine's parameters by checking a box, so far this one GUI together with Scid, these 2 are the only ones I saw so far, showing the parameter at all, in Shredder, Fritz, Arena, Hiarcs CE and Banksia it's hidden.
Had a match against default with Skill Level 20, 3'+1," single thread, UHO 2024 900-990cp 6mvs in Cutechess GUI:

Score of Patricia5 vs Patricia5SL20: 289 - 2 - 209 [0.787]
Elo difference: 227.0 +/- 22.9, LOS: 100.0 %, DrawRatio: 41.8 %
500 of 500 games finished.

Another one match with UCI Elo lowered for 100 (2901 instead of 3001) I broke off after about 100 games with about 80 wins for default, 20 draws and no wins for the handicapped side, which would have meant about 350 Elo difference for this short try, regards
Peter.
tapio
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Re: Patricia 5

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I'm using the Android compile on Acid Ape Chess and it's always confusing. GUI offers a 0-100 strength slider, that would probably be UCI_STRENGTH. In engine options there's the skill levels.
There's no human setting, or however it is called.
https://sourceforge.net/projects/chess- ... k/download

I've set skill to 1 and strength on ui side to 0%. Well, no blundering erc... latest SF sees itself at +0.3 after now 20 moves. Only 2 book moves.

Too strong for me 🙄
tapio
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Re: Patricia 5

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Argh, skill levels engine vs. UI side... I overlooked, that in Acid Ape Chess I can setup UI side "strength" per engine on match setup. It seems the "0-100%" strength slider on UI side is the only factor influencing strength.

The bug that the engine reports all its calculated variations (on lower strength levels) to the UI still exists.
JManion
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Re: Patricia 5

Post by JManion »

Has anyone figured out how to get it to play at a reduced strength on Chessbase?

Thanks
abgursu
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Re: Patricia 5

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Mostly with AI, I implemented Eman-Like Learning, Fortress Detection from Crystal and Armageddon Mode (which sees draw values as negative based on count of pieces left) into current Patricia Dev. Currently testing for myself, it seems updates are working fine and modes are close to equal with Patricia 5.0, but since I'm not a tester, I hope someone can test it and hopefully, appreciate it.

Here is the link with everything included: https://mega.nz/file/98JQnRwC#7OpQBTtfo ... 9Ht2HfkvAk

Best regards for everyone, and have a good year!
peter
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Re: Patricia 5

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abgursu wrote: Tue Dec 30, 2025 8:53 am Mostly with AI, I implemented Eman-Like Learning,
Thanks for that!
Learning seems to work as far as I saw till now, found out command- syntax to merge and defrag in console by simply trying these two. Is there any command to let engine show entries of .exp- files to certain position too?
Best wishes for New Year to you and to all readers of forum from my side too!
Peter.
abgursu
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Re: Patricia 5

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Hello again,
After your post, I noticed that exp and expex not working, so I corrected and builded for myself one last time.
Here is the current link: https://mega.nz/file/c9hX1ToQ#dC9EbRLJQ ... vFxIozkU8A as I removed the last one.
The build inside is for my computer, but you can always build it with the command in the file I provided, or you can make your own research about it.

Here is the small test I ran in my computer. The test has a little problem which Patricia 5.0 kept crushing mid or close to endgame phase of the game, so I hand-give results based on latest evals.
"
| # | Engine | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | TB |
| - | -------------------------- ---------| --------------- | --------------- | --------------- | --------------- | --------------- | ------------- |
| 1 | Patricia 5.1 FD | * * * * * * * * |½½½1½½½½|½½½½½½½½|11½11½11|11½1½½½0 |23.0 / 36 |
| 2 | Patricia 5.1 |½½½0½½½½| * * * * * * * * |½½½½½½½1|½1½½½½½1|½11½½½½½ |20.0 / 36|
| 3 | Patricia 5.0 |½½½½½½½½|½½½½½½½0| * * * * * * * * |½1½½½½½½|½½½½½½½½|18.0 / 36|
| 4 | Patricia 5.1 Armageddon |00½00½00|½0½½½½½½|½0½½½½½½| * * * * * * * * |½½110111 |15.5 / 36|
| 5 | Patricia 5.1 FD Armageddon |00½0½½½1|½00½½½½½|½½½½½½½½|½½000100| * * * * * * * * |13.5 / 36|
"
Thanks, and Best Regards...
peter
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Re: Patricia 5

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Thanks again, works with experience- file I had alredy created by previous version as well as with downloaded one.
Peter.
Elorejano
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Re: Patricia 5

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Unfortunately, it crash under my windows 10
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Re: Patricia 5

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Elorejano wrote: Wed Dec 31, 2025 5:45 am Unfortunately, it crash under my windows 10
The build, the executable is for my computer, the one I use. There is a Build.txt inside the zip, you should edit the first line for yourself then copy paste it into the compiler in your computer.
Or, you can ask any AI and that will give you clear instructions.
Have a nice year!