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Seems that one Uri is just a parody of the other.
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Uri wrote: Wed Apr 15, 2026 5:06 pm The evidence shows that chess engines are still weaker than top GMs in playing strength. Humans are more creative and humans understand chess strategy and positional chess much better than the engines.

This may change in a million years from now but personally I won't hold my breath because as of today humans are better than the engines.
ludicrous...that's the most ignorant thing I've seen anybody say on the internet in many years. No grandmaster will play against Stockfish without a tremendous advantage...why do you think that is?
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Uri wrote: Wed Apr 15, 2026 5:06 pm<snip>The evidence shows that chess engines are still weaker than top GMs in playing strength<snip>
Your post is two weeks too late. :lol:

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Or 20 years too late.
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jasper.sinclair wrote: Wed Apr 15, 2026 7:23 pmludicrous...that's the most ignorant thing I've seen anybody say on the internet in many years. No grandmaster will play against Stockfish without a tremendous advantage...why do you think that is?
But someone here also said that our software has limits, otherwise there will be no more updates. So what are those limits he was talking about?
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RubiChess wrote: Wed Apr 15, 2026 6:26 pm Seems that one Uri is just a parody of the other.
I do not see a connection between me and the second Uri
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Just because chess engines can beat 99.9% of human players, there is still a 0.1% of humans that they cannot beat.

Chess engines are tactical monsters but strategically they are much weaker and I believe that many engines (including Stockfish probably) can be outplayed strategically by a very good human player.
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Uri wrote: Tue Apr 28, 2026 7:35 pm Just because chess engines can beat 99.9% of human players, there is still a 0.1% of humans that they cannot beat.

Chess engines are tactical monsters but strategically they are much weaker and I believe that many engines (including Stockfish probably) can be outplayed strategically by a very good human player.

Assumption is wrong.
Chess engines can beat 100% of human chess players and not 99.9%
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Uri Blass wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2026 4:12 pmChess engines can beat 100% of human chess players and not 99.9%
I believe you are right and I was wrong so I apologise.

But this is also bad news for humanity because It mean chess doesn't need humans anymore and in a few years the game may even solved by a computer.
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Uri wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2026 5:43 pm
Uri Blass wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2026 4:12 pmChess engines can beat 100% of human chess players and not 99.9%
I believe you are right and I was wrong so I apologise.

But this is also bad news for humanity because It mean chess doesn't need humans anymore and in a few years the game may even solved by a computer.
Who cares? Chess is booming!
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