Hi Eric again,
I made all the correction on my site, also in databases.
Thank you again!
Best
Frank
Fritz 21
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Frank Quisinsky
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Frank Quisinsky
- Posts: 7425
- Joined: Wed Nov 18, 2009 7:16 pm
- Location: Gutweiler, Germany
- Full name: Frank Quisinsky
Re: Fritz 21
Hi there,
now after 1.026 games, move-average is with 77 the same as the Fritz 20 251024 (Ginkgo).
77 moves is very strong with: adjudication / resign = off
now after 1.026 games, 18 short wins, 16 with white pieces!
Also very strong!
Here is the results from Fritz 20 251024 (Ginkgo) ... Eric, I learn ... Ginkgo is the topic!
77,08% to beat ...
Current results:
https://www.amateurschach.de/fling/etoc-g_t103.html
78.70% after 1.026 games ... around +21 Elo.
Around the same quantity of points I generated for RubiChess 250612 JA dev!
OK, now the last 275 games.
For a
04# = Major General **
Ginkgo need 79%

Best
Frank
You can see ...
Fritz 20 lost 18 out of 1.300 games.
At the moment Fritz 21 lost 5 out of 1.025 games.
Allways vs. the same group of 26 opponents!
now after 1.026 games, move-average is with 77 the same as the Fritz 20 251024 (Ginkgo).
77 moves is very strong with: adjudication / resign = off
now after 1.026 games, 18 short wins, 16 with white pieces!
Also very strong!
Here is the results from Fritz 20 251024 (Ginkgo) ... Eric, I learn ... Ginkgo is the topic!
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points 1:0 1/2 0:1 % m-avg 1/0<45 rk
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01. Stockfish 18 JA 1.084,0 870 428 2 83,38 81 19/ 0 + 19 03#
02. Reckless 0.9.0 1.079,5 859 441 0 83,04 75 34/ 0 + 34 03#
17. RubiChess 250612 JA dev 1.024,5 752 545 3 78,81 80 10/ 0 + 10 05#
21. Fritz 20 251024 (Ginkgo) 1.002,0 722 560 18 77,08 77 14/ 0 + 14 05#
Current results:
https://www.amateurschach.de/fling/etoc-g_t103.html
78.70% after 1.026 games ... around +21 Elo.
Around the same quantity of points I generated for RubiChess 250612 JA dev!
OK, now the last 275 games.
For a
04# = Major General **
Ginkgo need 79%
Best
Frank
You can see ...
Fritz 20 lost 18 out of 1.300 games.
At the moment Fritz 21 lost 5 out of 1.025 games.
Allways vs. the same group of 26 opponents!
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peter
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Re: Fritz 21
And yet one more little head to head match with same conditions as the one against previous version (F20), 3'+1" single thread, UHO 85-94cp 6mvs:
Score of Dragon3.3 vs Fritz21: 151 - 86 - 263 [0.565]
Elo difference: 45.4 +/- 20.9, LOS: 100.0 %, DrawRatio: 52.6 %
500 of 500 games finished.
Score of Dragon3.3 vs Fritz21: 151 - 86 - 263 [0.565]
Elo difference: 45.4 +/- 20.9, LOS: 100.0 %, DrawRatio: 52.6 %
500 of 500 games finished.
Peter.
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Frank Quisinsky
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Re: Fritz 21
Hi there,
from my site ...
All results are now online:
https://www.amateurschach.de/main/_etoc-g.htm
same as after around 800 games ...
+21 is the final result after 1.300 games for ETOC-G.
If we compare the results with the Fritz 20 251024 (Ginkgo).
If CEGT / CCRL were to throw both versions into one pot, it might be a little more than +21.
But again much more interesting as Elo is the style.
Ginkgo is again more aggressive.
Frank is on the right way could be my comment.
I saw a lot of nice game ...
Now the next one ... Bagatur 5.5 JAVA is the topic!
Best
Frank
from my site ...
All results are now online:
https://www.amateurschach.de/main/_etoc-g.htm
same as after around 800 games ...
+21 is the final result after 1.300 games for ETOC-G.
If we compare the results with the Fritz 20 251024 (Ginkgo).
If CEGT / CCRL were to throw both versions into one pot, it might be a little more than +21.
But again much more interesting as Elo is the style.
Ginkgo is again more aggressive.
Frank is on the right way could be my comment.
I saw a lot of nice game ...
Now the next one ... Bagatur 5.5 JAVA is the topic!
Best
Frank
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Dicaste
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Re: Fritz 21
[pgn][Event "LAPTOP-RTA0OKO2, Rapid 2.0min+60.0sec"]
[Site "LAPTOP-RTA0OKO2"]
[Date "2026.05.24"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Samaritan Beta"]
[Black "Fritz 21"]
[Result "1-0"]
[Annotator "0.15;0.15"]
[ECO "E04"]
[WhiteFideId "-1"]
[BlackFideId "-1"]
[PlyCount "177"]
[GameId "2313364724916335"]
[TimeControl "120+60"]
{13th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-13980HX 2419 MHz W=19.3 plies; 13,00 kN/s B=30.7 plies; 20.896,00 kN/s} 1. Nf3 {0.15/14 145 Both last book move} d5 {0.15/34 59} 2. d4 {0.16/16 29} Nf6 {0.10/35 58} 3. c4 {0.17/15 44} e6 {0.07/35 49 (dxc4)} 4. g3 {0.22/16 73 (Nc3)} dxc4 {0.08/34 92 (Bb4+)} 5. Bg2 {0.24/22 52} a6 {0.10/35 84} 6. O-O {0.21/21 42} Nc6 {0.18/34 61} 7. e3 {0.22/19 58} Bd7 {0.26/36 57} 8. Qe2 {0.23/19 51} b5 {0.24/36 58 (Bd6)} 9. b3 {0.44/17 78} cxb3 {0.31/36 66} 10. axb3 {0.43/16 0} Bd6 {0.31/36 71 (Be7)} 11. Bb2 {0.34/18 96} O-O {0.37/35 57} 12. Rc1 {0.33/20 83} Nb4 {0.29/39 67} 13. Ne5 {0.32/12 0} Ra7 {0.25/38 63 (c6)} 14. Na3 {0.32/18 112 (Ba3)} Be8 {0.25/37 58} 15. e4 {0.29/19 38} Be7 {0.21/38 62} 16. h4 {0.25/21 154 (Nc2)} h6 {0.16/38 61} 17. Nc2 {0.24/25 0 (Kh2)} Nxc2 {0.08/39 61} 18. Rxc2 {0.22/23 36 (Qxc2)} a5 {0.01/37 47} 19. Qd2 {0.23/24 50 (Nc6)} a4 {-0.01/37 44} 20. b4 {0.21/27 26} Qa8 {-0.10/37 75 (Ra6)} 21. d5 {0.27/24 90} exd5 {-0.08/38 55} 22. exd5 {0.17/25 54} Qd8 {-0.01/40 40} 23. Qd4 {0.11/25 78} Ra6 {-0.01/40 45} 24. g4 {0.13/29 0 (Re2)} Bd6 {-0.01/39 50} 25. f4 {0.13/27 0 (Ra3)} Qb8 {0.18/35 64 (Qa8)} 26. Qd1 {0.17/23 179 (Bf3)} Kh8 {-0.33/31 91} 27. Bd4 {0.19/24 40 (Nd3)} Ng8 {-0.01/34 53 (Qc8)} 28. Nd3 {0.16/21 68} Bd7 {-0.01/35 38} 29. Bf3 {0.17/12 0 (Nc5)} Ra8 {0.01/35 79 (a3)} 30. Rg2 {0.22/18 137 (Nc5)} Qe8 {-0.01/37 50 (f6)} 31. f5 {0.16/22 81} Qe7 {-0.01/38 52 (f6)} 32. f6 {0.73/26 58 (Qd2)} Nxf6 {1.34/32 89 (gxf6)} 33. g5 {1.27/26 52} hxg5 {1.58/31 74} 34. Rxg5 {1.34/28 31} Rg8 {1.86/32 67 (a3)} 35. Ra2 {2.05/28 67} Nh7 {2.02/36 63} 36. Re2 {1.99/29 0} Qf8 {4.02/32 61} 37. Be4 {1.94/28 0} f5 {4.27/35 61} 38. Reg2 {2.08/28 88} Qf7 {4.33/35 60} 39. Bf3 {2.02/29 37} Nxg5 {4.27/36 60 (Qe7)} 40. Rxg5 {5.18/25 118} Kh7 {4.42/40 60} 41. Rh5+ {4.81/29 50} Kg6 {4.60/39 60} 42. Qe2 {4.65/24 0} Qe7 {4.93/38 60} 43. Qxe7 {4.14/29 84} Bxe7 {5.02/37 60} 44. Ne5+ {4.04/29 0} Kf6 {2.54/5 0} 45. Nxd7+ {4.05/26 56} Kf7 {5.10/38 91} 46. Ne5+ {4.20/24 47} Ke8 {5.15/37 75} 47. d6 {4.29/23 46} cxd6 {5.20/34 67} 48. Bc6+ {4.34/22 100 (Bxa8)} Kd8 {4.83/39 63} 49. Ng6 {4.58/21 0} Ra6 {4.95/40 62} 50. Nxe7 {4.48/21 96} Kxe7 {5.19/40 61} 51. Bb7 {4.60/19 0} Raa8 {5.20/39 60} 52. Bxa8 {4.50/18 100} Rxa8 {5.64/40 57} 53. Rxf5 {4.78/17 33} Rc8 {5.57/39 62} 54. Rxb5 {5.23/16 70} Rc4 {6.03/38 49} 55. Bf2 {5.24/14 103} a3 {5.99/39 66} 56. Ra5 {5.35/13 89} Rxb4 {6.07/41 44} 57. Rxa3 {5.39/11 28} Kf7 {6.37/39 72 (Kf6)} 58. Kg2 {4.59/11 310} Kg8 {6.74/34 65 (Kg6)} 59. Rd3 {5.48/9 92} Rg4+ {6.88/36 49 (Kh7)} 60. Kf3 {5.83/9 60} Rb4 {8.32/34 68} 61. Rxd6 {4.38/9 50} Kf7 {8.90/31 64 (Kh7)} 62. Bd4 {4.52/9 54} Ke7 {9.37/29 62} 63. Rd5 {4.62/11 25} Ke6 {10.59/27 61 (Kf7)} 64. Ke4 {8.13/10 52} Rb1 {10.15/32 61} 65. Rg5 {9.05/10 52} Re1+ {14.77/31 60} 66. Kf4 {8.87/10 116 (Kf3)} Rh1 {16.48/33 60 (Rf1+)} 67. Rg4 {9.59/10 69 (Kg4)} Rf1+ {14.76/30 60 (Rh3)} 68. Kg5 {7.21/10 41} Rb1 {15.38/26 60 (Kf7)} 69. Bxg7 {13.54/8 70} Kf7 {12.77/26 60} 70. Be5 {11.34/8 55} Ke6 {18.57/25 60 (Re1)} 71. h5 {13.14/8 47 (Bd4)} Kxe5 {13.26/24 60} 72. h6 {9.07/11 37} Rb8 {13.07/21 60 (Rb7)} 73. h7 {7.76/10 54} Kd6 {13.13/22 60 (Ke6)} 74. Kh6 {8.16/10 87 (Rh4)} Ke6 {29.03/20 60 (Rh8)} 75. Rg8 {8.84/11 46} Rb2 {29.03/14 60 (Rb1)} 76. h8=Q {6.09/12 67} Rh2+ {12.00/14 60} 77. Kg5 {4.07/13 67} Rxh8 {13.46/17 60} 78. Rxh8 {3.91/12 0} Kd5 {#38/14 60 (Ke5)} 79. Kf4 {4.75/12 142 (Rh6)} Kc5 {11.82/16 60 (Kd4)} 80. Ke5 {#14/1 0 (Ke3)} Kc4 {11.89/16 60 (Kc6)} 81. Rh3 {#12/1 0 (Rb8)} Kb4 {#38/16 60 (Kc5)} 82. Kd5 {#8/1 0 (Rd3)} Kb5 {6.80/5 0} 83. Rb3+ {#7/1 0 (Rg3)} Ka4 {#6/15 0} 84. Kc4 {#6/1 0} Ka5 {7.04/5 0} 85. Rb1 {#5/1 0 (Kc5)} Ka6 {7.63/5 0} 86. Kc5 {#4/1 0} Ka7 {#3/9 0} 87. Kc6 {#3/1 0} Ka8 {#2/7 0} 88. Kc7 {#2/1 0} Ka7 {#1/6 0} 89. Ra1# {#1/1 0} 1-0
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31 .. Qe7?? was an unfortunate mistake but i like the style of Fritz 21.
[Site "LAPTOP-RTA0OKO2"]
[Date "2026.05.24"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Samaritan Beta"]
[Black "Fritz 21"]
[Result "1-0"]
[Annotator "0.15;0.15"]
[ECO "E04"]
[WhiteFideId "-1"]
[BlackFideId "-1"]
[PlyCount "177"]
[GameId "2313364724916335"]
[TimeControl "120+60"]
{13th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-13980HX 2419 MHz W=19.3 plies; 13,00 kN/s B=30.7 plies; 20.896,00 kN/s} 1. Nf3 {0.15/14 145 Both last book move} d5 {0.15/34 59} 2. d4 {0.16/16 29} Nf6 {0.10/35 58} 3. c4 {0.17/15 44} e6 {0.07/35 49 (dxc4)} 4. g3 {0.22/16 73 (Nc3)} dxc4 {0.08/34 92 (Bb4+)} 5. Bg2 {0.24/22 52} a6 {0.10/35 84} 6. O-O {0.21/21 42} Nc6 {0.18/34 61} 7. e3 {0.22/19 58} Bd7 {0.26/36 57} 8. Qe2 {0.23/19 51} b5 {0.24/36 58 (Bd6)} 9. b3 {0.44/17 78} cxb3 {0.31/36 66} 10. axb3 {0.43/16 0} Bd6 {0.31/36 71 (Be7)} 11. Bb2 {0.34/18 96} O-O {0.37/35 57} 12. Rc1 {0.33/20 83} Nb4 {0.29/39 67} 13. Ne5 {0.32/12 0} Ra7 {0.25/38 63 (c6)} 14. Na3 {0.32/18 112 (Ba3)} Be8 {0.25/37 58} 15. e4 {0.29/19 38} Be7 {0.21/38 62} 16. h4 {0.25/21 154 (Nc2)} h6 {0.16/38 61} 17. Nc2 {0.24/25 0 (Kh2)} Nxc2 {0.08/39 61} 18. Rxc2 {0.22/23 36 (Qxc2)} a5 {0.01/37 47} 19. Qd2 {0.23/24 50 (Nc6)} a4 {-0.01/37 44} 20. b4 {0.21/27 26} Qa8 {-0.10/37 75 (Ra6)} 21. d5 {0.27/24 90} exd5 {-0.08/38 55} 22. exd5 {0.17/25 54} Qd8 {-0.01/40 40} 23. Qd4 {0.11/25 78} Ra6 {-0.01/40 45} 24. g4 {0.13/29 0 (Re2)} Bd6 {-0.01/39 50} 25. f4 {0.13/27 0 (Ra3)} Qb8 {0.18/35 64 (Qa8)} 26. Qd1 {0.17/23 179 (Bf3)} Kh8 {-0.33/31 91} 27. Bd4 {0.19/24 40 (Nd3)} Ng8 {-0.01/34 53 (Qc8)} 28. Nd3 {0.16/21 68} Bd7 {-0.01/35 38} 29. Bf3 {0.17/12 0 (Nc5)} Ra8 {0.01/35 79 (a3)} 30. Rg2 {0.22/18 137 (Nc5)} Qe8 {-0.01/37 50 (f6)} 31. f5 {0.16/22 81} Qe7 {-0.01/38 52 (f6)} 32. f6 {0.73/26 58 (Qd2)} Nxf6 {1.34/32 89 (gxf6)} 33. g5 {1.27/26 52} hxg5 {1.58/31 74} 34. Rxg5 {1.34/28 31} Rg8 {1.86/32 67 (a3)} 35. Ra2 {2.05/28 67} Nh7 {2.02/36 63} 36. Re2 {1.99/29 0} Qf8 {4.02/32 61} 37. Be4 {1.94/28 0} f5 {4.27/35 61} 38. Reg2 {2.08/28 88} Qf7 {4.33/35 60} 39. Bf3 {2.02/29 37} Nxg5 {4.27/36 60 (Qe7)} 40. Rxg5 {5.18/25 118} Kh7 {4.42/40 60} 41. Rh5+ {4.81/29 50} Kg6 {4.60/39 60} 42. Qe2 {4.65/24 0} Qe7 {4.93/38 60} 43. Qxe7 {4.14/29 84} Bxe7 {5.02/37 60} 44. Ne5+ {4.04/29 0} Kf6 {2.54/5 0} 45. Nxd7+ {4.05/26 56} Kf7 {5.10/38 91} 46. Ne5+ {4.20/24 47} Ke8 {5.15/37 75} 47. d6 {4.29/23 46} cxd6 {5.20/34 67} 48. Bc6+ {4.34/22 100 (Bxa8)} Kd8 {4.83/39 63} 49. Ng6 {4.58/21 0} Ra6 {4.95/40 62} 50. Nxe7 {4.48/21 96} Kxe7 {5.19/40 61} 51. Bb7 {4.60/19 0} Raa8 {5.20/39 60} 52. Bxa8 {4.50/18 100} Rxa8 {5.64/40 57} 53. Rxf5 {4.78/17 33} Rc8 {5.57/39 62} 54. Rxb5 {5.23/16 70} Rc4 {6.03/38 49} 55. Bf2 {5.24/14 103} a3 {5.99/39 66} 56. Ra5 {5.35/13 89} Rxb4 {6.07/41 44} 57. Rxa3 {5.39/11 28} Kf7 {6.37/39 72 (Kf6)} 58. Kg2 {4.59/11 310} Kg8 {6.74/34 65 (Kg6)} 59. Rd3 {5.48/9 92} Rg4+ {6.88/36 49 (Kh7)} 60. Kf3 {5.83/9 60} Rb4 {8.32/34 68} 61. Rxd6 {4.38/9 50} Kf7 {8.90/31 64 (Kh7)} 62. Bd4 {4.52/9 54} Ke7 {9.37/29 62} 63. Rd5 {4.62/11 25} Ke6 {10.59/27 61 (Kf7)} 64. Ke4 {8.13/10 52} Rb1 {10.15/32 61} 65. Rg5 {9.05/10 52} Re1+ {14.77/31 60} 66. Kf4 {8.87/10 116 (Kf3)} Rh1 {16.48/33 60 (Rf1+)} 67. Rg4 {9.59/10 69 (Kg4)} Rf1+ {14.76/30 60 (Rh3)} 68. Kg5 {7.21/10 41} Rb1 {15.38/26 60 (Kf7)} 69. Bxg7 {13.54/8 70} Kf7 {12.77/26 60} 70. Be5 {11.34/8 55} Ke6 {18.57/25 60 (Re1)} 71. h5 {13.14/8 47 (Bd4)} Kxe5 {13.26/24 60} 72. h6 {9.07/11 37} Rb8 {13.07/21 60 (Rb7)} 73. h7 {7.76/10 54} Kd6 {13.13/22 60 (Ke6)} 74. Kh6 {8.16/10 87 (Rh4)} Ke6 {29.03/20 60 (Rh8)} 75. Rg8 {8.84/11 46} Rb2 {29.03/14 60 (Rb1)} 76. h8=Q {6.09/12 67} Rh2+ {12.00/14 60} 77. Kg5 {4.07/13 67} Rxh8 {13.46/17 60} 78. Rxh8 {3.91/12 0} Kd5 {#38/14 60 (Ke5)} 79. Kf4 {4.75/12 142 (Rh6)} Kc5 {11.82/16 60 (Kd4)} 80. Ke5 {#14/1 0 (Ke3)} Kc4 {11.89/16 60 (Kc6)} 81. Rh3 {#12/1 0 (Rb8)} Kb4 {#38/16 60 (Kc5)} 82. Kd5 {#8/1 0 (Rd3)} Kb5 {6.80/5 0} 83. Rb3+ {#7/1 0 (Rg3)} Ka4 {#6/15 0} 84. Kc4 {#6/1 0} Ka5 {7.04/5 0} 85. Rb1 {#5/1 0 (Kc5)} Ka6 {7.63/5 0} 86. Kc5 {#4/1 0} Ka7 {#3/9 0} 87. Kc6 {#3/1 0} Ka8 {#2/7 0} 88. Kc7 {#2/1 0} Ka7 {#1/6 0} 89. Ra1# {#1/1 0} 1-0
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31 .. Qe7?? was an unfortunate mistake but i like the style of Fritz 21.