Myracle GUI

[F.Huber]

I have a question about showing arrows:
'Show thinking arrows' is for Analysis, 'Show thinking arrows (Players)' is for playing against an engine, but what is 'Show arrows for other engines' for?
I don't see any effect when checking this option, and I don't find a description of these options in the manual.

[mar]

ah yes, this is if you use more than one engine for analysis, so by default it only shows arrows for the first (primary) analysis engine

[F.Huber]

ah yes, this is if you use more than one engine for analysis, so by default it only shows arrows for the first (primary) analysis engine

Thanks, now it's clear - I've never tried more than one analysis engine.

BTW, good that Myracle supports *.bat/cmd files for engine installation - that makes it very comfortable to use the MessChess engines in my CB-Emu package, because I've included such *.bat files for Hiarcs (that uses the same method):
1) go to the folder MessChess\Hiarcs
2) run 'makeall /name' - this creates a subfolder 'Engines' with all necessary *.bat files
3) now create any subfolder in Myracle\engines (e.g. mess) and copy all *.bat files from the just created folder 'Hiarcs\Engines' into 'Myracle\engines\mess', and then you can add all MessChess engines without having to enter any engine arguments

[Krzysztof Grzelak]

don't push this issue Krzysztof, it's there for a reason, I will not make any further comments on this, it remains as it is

Once again, I kindly ask you to consider this request. It won’t do you any harm to do this – so that users can enable or disable these bookmarks as they see fit.

[Damir]

Krzysztof is bored and is asking for another week of ban.

[Krzysztof Grzelak]

Krzysztof is bored and is asking for another week of ban.

It's okay, I'll take the risk, it's very important for me and not only for me.

[mar]

BTW, good that Myracle supports *.bat/cmd files for engine installation - that makes it very comfortable to use the MessChess engines in my CB-Emu package, because I've included such *.bat files for Hiarcs (that uses the same method):
1) go to the folder MessChess\Hiarcs
2) run 'makeall /name' - this creates a subfolder 'Engines' with all necessary *.bat files
3) now create any subfolder in Myracle\engines (e.g. mess) and copy all *.bat files from the just created folder 'Hiarcs\Engines' into 'Myracle\engines\mess', and then you can add all MessChess engines without having to enter any engine arguments

that's cool, I don't recall doing anything special, just calling CreateProcessW - it seems that modern win versions support batch/cmd files out of the box?

MessChess is pretty cool, I had great fun playing against one of the engines, good to know it's easy to setup
now without having to input commandline arguments

[Ras]

Moderation: One month ban for Krzysztof - as final warning before permanent ban.

[F.Huber]

that's cool, I don't recall doing anything special, just calling CreateProcessW - it seems that modern win versions support batch/cmd files out of the box?

Yes, CreateProcessW automatically calls the command processor (cmd.exe) when used for *.bat/cmd files.

MessChess is pretty cool, I had great fun playing against one of the engines, good to know it's easy to setup
now without having to input commandline arguments

Well, I've tried it with these *.bat files, because in my first attempts I had a problem with the installation process in Myracle:
many MessChess engines need more than one commandline argument, and this failed in Myracle first - it only accepts one single option or argument per line in the 'Argument:' field (at least without using a trick).

For example the Saitek Brute Force has to be called in the following way:
C:\CB-Emu\MessNew\MessNew.exe bforce -plugin chessengine -nomax -nowc
But Myracle didn't accept all 5 arguments bforce -plugin chessengine -nomax -nowc in one line.
After a few trials I found out, that I had to put each of these 5 arguments in a separate line, or to put it into one line but enclosed in double-quotes (i.e. "bforce -plugin chessengine -nomax -nowc").
Since this is quite unusual in other GUIs, I'm not sure whether this is a bug or intended by you!?
That's why I've switched to installing the engines via *.bat files.

Regards,
Franz

[mar]

For example the Saitek Brute Force has to be called in the following way:
C:\CB-Emu\MessNew\MessNew.exe bforce -plugin chessengine -nomax -nowc
But Myracle didn't accept all 5 arguments bforce -plugin chessengine -nomax -nowc in one line.
After a few trials I found out, that I had to put each of these 5 arguments in a separate line, or to put it into one line but enclosed in double-quotes (i.e. "bforce -plugin chessengine -nomax -nowc").
Since this is quite unusual in other GUIs, I'm not sure whether this is a bug or intended by you!?
That's why I've switched to installing the engines via *.bat files.

yes, I automatically append quotes to each arg line that contains whitespace, maybe I should instead rely on the user to put
double quotes where needed, so while this is technically a feature it feels like a bug so I'll remove this behavior
in one of the upcoming builds