Are humans rated 2775+ as successful against P.C today as they were 8 years ago using the fastest single processor?
Since the SSDF list is calibrated against human-computer results from 2000-2008, and more than 80% of those humans were rated below 2775 anyway, I think it is a mistake to look at the 3000+ SSDF ratings of the top programs and to conclude that those top programs will dominate today's top grandmasters. The battle is not over yet, or is it Rybka 3 can Not give pawn handicap like it does to GM Benjamin to a 2775+ rated player yet.
The war with the machines is already lost,try to accept it
_No one can hit as hard as life.But it ain’t about how hard you can hit.It’s about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward.How much you can take and keep moving forward….
He was playing under yellow chicken conditions....
_No one can hit as hard as life.But it ain’t about how hard you can hit.It’s about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward.How much you can take and keep moving forward….
He was playing under yellow chicken conditions....
There is goes again, you read so fast that you missed my last sentence
Since the SSDF list is calibrated against human-computer results from 2000-2008, and more than 80% of those humans were rated below 2775 anyway, I think it is a mistake to look at the 3000+ SSDF ratings of the top programs and to conclude that those top programs will dominate today's top grandmasters. The battle is not over yet, or is it. Rybka 3 can Not give pawn odd handicap like it does to GM Benjamin to a 2775+ rated player yet.
He was playing under yellow chicken conditions....
GM Milov also played two normal games at 90 + 30 and only 6 games were pawn handicaped with Rybka playing with an Octal computer ( NOT single processor )
PS: Here is GM Milov comments and personal opinion about humans vs computer:
Milov's results were very impressive indeed ... but in no way shape or form was the match a classic chess match. It was a handicap match against a 2700 player and it was extremely difficult for the human. Some time back Kasparov lost to Genius 3 on weak hardware ... the same Genius 3 lost several games against Rybka 3 with a Knight handicap. Ofcourse Kasparov lost in a blitz game and that is not the same ... but while a human time is static ... for computers hardware makes time a very dynamic parameter. An 8 core today probably plays 100 X faster than the Genius 3 that played against Kasparov (if not more).
I realy believe that an 8 core Rybka 3 plays at around a 3200 ELo ... if matched against humans it might be even higher than that. It would be a brave bunch of super GM's that would try to disprove that fact.
M ANSARI wrote:Milov's results were very impressive indeed ... but in no way shape or form was the match a classic chess match. It was a handicap match against a 2700 player and it was extremely difficult for the human.
Not all games were handicaped 2 games out of the eight were normal. First I wrote that no FIDE rated player with a 2775+ and Rybka 3 with a single processor ( Not an 8 core super computer ). But if you take one of the best 5 players which are rated above 2775+ at the same time control 90 + 30 which GM Milov played, you might even see better result for the humans.
PS: Simple logic will tell you that GM Milov played Rybka 3 with 8 core procesors and is rated only 2705, now what do you expect from GM Anand or Kramnik with rybka using a single processors.
Some time back Kasparov lost to Genius 3 on weak hardware ... the same Genius 3 lost several games against Rybka 3 with a Knight handicap. Of course Kasparov lost in a blitz game and that is not the same ... but while a human time is static ... for computers hardware makes time a very dynamic parameter. An 8 core today probably plays 100 X faster than the Genius 3 that played against Kasparov (if not more).
I realy believe that an 8 core Rybka 3 plays at around a 3200 ELo ... if matched against humans it might be even higher than that. It would be a brave bunch of super GM's that would try to disprove that fact.
Rybka 3 can Not give pawn handicap like it does to GM Benjamin to a 2775+ rated player yet.
