CEGT - rating lists December 14th 2008

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CEGT - rating lists December 14th 2008

Post by Werner »

Hi all :-),
our updated rating lists are now online and can be found under the attached links.

40 / 120:
The Quad-List was updated last week with

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1 Rybka 3 x64 4CPU 3163 +19 -19 883 games
3 Deep Fritz 11 4CPU 3031 +35 -35 156 games
In our forum or in a another posting you will find a report from Heinz with the latest very good Naum 4 results. This includes games with 40/400 too.
http://cegt.foren-city.de/topic,167,-naum-x64-4cpu.html

40 / 20:
This week we added 2457 games made with 53 engines to our list. See more in our list "Games of the week". In total our 40/20 list is based now on 298.913 games!

New engines:
We have started matches with Naum 4 and we have a new nr. 2 as expected. Congrats to Alex!!

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4 Naum 4 x64 4CPU 3115 +36 -36 200 games (+104)
7 Naum 4 x64 2CPU 3062 +37 -37 200 games (+100)
16 Naum 4 w32 1CPU 3009 +51 -51 101 games (+101)
The other new engines are Deep Sjeng WC 2008 w32 and x64 2CPU:

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36 Deep Sjeng WC 2008 x64 4CPU 2960 +24 -24 418 games (update +18)
28 Deep Sjeng WC 2008 x64 2CPU 2969 +61 -61 78 games (start rating)
61 Deep Sjeng WC 2008 w32 2CPU 2920 +32 -32 266 games (+2 to version 3.0)
updated engines
10 Deep Fritz 11 4CPU 3027 +14 -14 1211 games (-2)
27 Deep Fritz 11 2CPU 2970 +18 -18 751 games (+3)
48 Deep Fritz 11 1CPU 2937 +20 -20 642 games (-3)
41 Shredder WM Edition Bonn 2CPU 2953 +18 -18 823 games (-9)
47 Fruit 2.3.5m x64 2CPU p15 2939 +16 -16 1119 games (+1)
108 Bright 0.4a 2CPU 2866 +20 -20 711 games (+7)
135 Bright 0.4a 1CPU 2832 +30 -30 316 games (+40)

40 / 4:
Blitz List was updated December 9th already with 6889 new games and first Naum 4 games too:

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Naum 4.0 (rating version 3.1 and the difference)
x64-4CPU: 3149 - 500 games (3027, +122)
x64-2CPU: 3065 - 320 games (2974, +91)
x64-1CPU: 2982 - 100 games (2892, +90)

w32-2CPU: 3034 - 150 games (2939, +95)
w32-1CPU: 2960 - 370 games (2866, +94)
The other new engine was Hermann 2.4

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x64-1CPU: 2561 - 300 games ( +33 to w32)
w32-1CPU: 2528 - 500 Partien (2471, +57 to 2.3)
Updated results as usual in our forum. Next update of the list soon on December 16th!

A big „Thank you“ to all testers as usual! :)

links:
40/20: http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/rating.htm
Blitz: http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/blitz.htm
40/120: http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/rating120.htm
Tester: http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/testers/testers.htm
Games of the week: http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/40_40%2 ... on/gow.JPG
Elo-comparison: http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/Replay/ ... arison.htm

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Re: CEGT - rating lists December 14th 2008

Post by Norm Pollock »

Hi Werner,

Looking over the new games I found two problems. In the first game, White's 32nd move (32. Rxa4+) is illegal:

[Event "CEGT Quad 40/120 repeated"]
[Site "CEGT"]
[Date "2008.12.08"]
[Round "20"]
[White "Deep Fritz 11 4CPU"]
[Black "Zappa Mexico x64 4CPU"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "D20"]
[PlyCount "64"]
[EventDate "2008.??.??"]

1. d4 d5 2. c4 dxc4 3. e4 e5 4. Nf3 exd4 5. Bxc4 Bb4+ 6. Nbd2 Nc6 7. Qb3 Qf6 8.
O-O Nge7 9. e5 Qf5 10. Bd3 Qe6 11. Bc4 Qf5 12. Bd3 Qe6 13. Nc4 a5 14. a3 a4 15.
Qc2 Bc5 16. Ng5 Qd5 17. Be4 Bf5 18. Bxf5 Nxf5 19. Qxf5 Qxc4 20. e6 f6 21. Nxh7
Ne7 22. Qh5+ Kd8 23. Bf4 Qd5 24. Qf7 Qe4 25. Rfc1 Ra5 26. Bxc7+ Kxc7 27. Rxc5+
Rxc5 28. Qxe7+ Kb6 29. Nf8 Rb5 30. Kh1 Qf4 31. Qd8+ Ka7 32. Rxa4+ Ra5 1-0

In the second game, White's 29th move (29. Rxa8) is illegal:

[Event "CEGT Quad 40/120 repeated"]
[Site "CEGT"]
[Date "2008.12.08"]
[Round "10"]
[White "Deep Fritz 11 4CPU"]
[Black "Rybka 2.3.2a x64 4CPU"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "A70"]
[PlyCount "58"]
[EventDate "2008.??.??"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 c5 3. d5 e6 4. Nc3 exd5 5. cxd5 d6 6. e4 g6 7. Bd3 Bg7 8. h3
O-O 9. Nf3 a6 10. a4 Nbd7 11. a5 Qe7 12. O-O Ne5 13. Nxe5 Qxe5 14. Be3 Re8 15.
Re1 Bd7 16. Qd2 Qe7 17. Bg5 Qd8 18. Re3 h6 19. Bf4 Bb5 20. Be2 Bxe2 21. Rxe2
Kh7 22. Rd1 Qb8 23. Bg3 b5 24. axb6 Qxb6 25. Qc2 Nd7 26. Qa4 Qd8 27. Kh2 Bd4
28. Ra1 Kg7 29. Rxa8 Qxa8 1-0

-Norm
Spock

Re: CEGT - rating lists December 14th 2008

Post by Spock »

Very interesting indeed...

You may or may not recall my post 3 weeks ago on 23rd November
http://www.talkchess.com/forum/viewtopi ... 35&t=25011

We have had a few Quad Deep Fritz 11 illegal moves - maybe 6 games or so. The difference is that they are automatically identified and excluded during processing, so you would never see them.

After we had those, I did download and check the 500 or so CEGT 40/20 games (or was it blitz I checked, 90% sure it was 40/20) and there were no problems with them. Which leads me to believe that this problem, whatever it is, only occurs at longer time controls - our 40/40 and CEGT 40/120 being examples. I wonder if anyone else has had issues ?
Heinz Van Kempen

Re: CEGT - rating lists December 14th 2008

Post by Heinz Van Kempen »

Hi Ray and Norm :) ,

I did not check all DF 11 games up to now. This games will be removed of course.

What I experienced before with DF 10 GUI used for this matches was a incorrect result output when games were decided quickly with tablebases, although this happened rarely.

So the DF 10 GUI proves to be a bit buggy.

Best Regards
Heinz