PlentyChess vs SF17.1 and neutral book

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Jouni
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PlentyChess vs SF17.1 and neutral book

Post by Jouni »

UHO testing is cheating :) .This was 4 cores 1m + 1s test:

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1   Stockfish 17.1       +5/=192/-3 50.50%  101.0/200
2   PlentyChess 7.0.37   +3/=192/-5 49.50%   99.0/200

Latest Reckless scores worse = 96.5 points.
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Re: PlentyChess vs SF17.1 and neutral book

Post by Ciekce »

Jouni wrote: Sat Jan 31, 2026 9:07 pm UHO testing is cheating
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Re: PlentyChess vs SF17.1 and neutral book

Post by Uri Blass »

Jouni wrote: Sat Jan 31, 2026 9:07 pm UHO testing is cheating :) .This was 4 cores 1m + 1s test:

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1   Stockfish 17.1       +5/=192/-3 50.50%  101.0/200
2   PlentyChess 7.0.37   +3/=192/-5 49.50%   99.0/200

Latest Reckless scores worse = 96.5 points.
In My UHO testing(Queen handicap tournament) Wasp4.50 could beat stockfish and PlentyChess by winning with less moves
4 cores time control 2+2

[pgn][Event "Computer event"]
[Site "Somewhere on Earth"]
[Date "2026.02.02"]
[Time "14:07:27"]
[Round "1"]
[Board "3"]
[White "PlentyChess Alamat 7.0.41.10 SE"]
[Black "Wasp 4.50"]
[Result "0-1"]
[Termination "mate"]
[TimeControl "nodes: 100000000"]
[PlyCount "44"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNB1KBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]

1.Nf3 {-7.0/20 14563 15553191} d5 {-11.7/20 4159 25706081} 2.e3 {-7.2/20 9945 18444036} Nc6 {-11.8/22 4193 26358199}
3.Bb5 {-7.3/18 5865 10904015} e5 {-11.9/20 4228 27560222} 4.Nc3 {-7.3/17 2702 5022269} Bd6 {-12.1/22 5692 37392595}
5.Nxd5 {-7.3/17 3927 7143249} e4 {-14.1/22 4265 27751401} 6.b3 {-7.3/17 8495 15155846} exf3 {-15.8/24 4305 28774873}
7.Bb2 {-7.3/19 5367 9900203} fxg2 {-18.9/23 5804 39657744} 8.Rg1 {-7.0/19 2139 3952476} Qg5 {-19.1/24 4347 29717666}
9.Bxc6+ {-6.9/24 6468 13298813} bxc6 {-20.0/26 4392 31238662} 10.Nxc7+ {-6.8/19 2715 5687409} Bxc7 {-25.4/22 4439 31948480}
11.O-O-O {-6.8/21 3300 6851036} Bxh2 {-28.1/22 4362 31539169} 12.d4 {-6.5/21 8868 17462830} Bxg1 {-37.6/23 4286 36540678}
13.Rxg1 {-7.0/20 4333 9980547} Qh4 {-47.0/21 6870 61250519} 14.d5 {-8.2/22 8917 21087596} Qxf2 {M+10/16 4059 35390478}
15.Bd4 {M-13/33 8191 23306341} Qxg1+ {M+8/15 1481 12215242} 16.Kb2 {M-7/33 2288 8106216} Qf2 {M+7/13 33 62306}
17.d6 {M-6/35 3026 13525757} Bd7 {M+6/11 56 361618} 18.Bxa7 {M-5/41 1043 8412285} Rxa7 {M+5/9 35 131300}
19.a4 {M-4/224 1364 16620795} g1=Q {M+4/7 15 20203} 20.e4 {M-3/249 80 490611} Qd1 {M+3/5 11 8030}
21.Ka3 {M-2/249 10 73341} Qfxc2 {M+2/3 10 775} 22.Kb4 {M-1/249 27 4989} Qxd6# {M+1/1 14 485}
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[/pgn]
[pgn][Event "Computer event"]
[Site "Somewhere on Earth"]
[Date "2026.02.02"]
[Time "14:08:20"]
[Round "1"]
[Board "4"]
[White "Wasp 4.50"]
[Black "PlentyChess Alamat 7.0.41.10 SE"]
[Result "0-1"]
[Termination "mate"]
[TimeControl "nodes: 100000000"]
[PlyCount "72"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNB1KBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]

1.d4 {-11.7/20 6252 32671437} e5 {-7.3/19 4953 9380646} 2.dxe5 {-11.3/23 4140 26076175} Nc6 {-7.2/20 7251 13362461}
3.Nf3 {-11.3/23 4178 24885264} d5 {-7.3/20 5906 10606194} 4.e3 {-11.3/21 5626 34936465} Bg4 {-7.3/20 6023 10810085}
5.Nbd2 {-11.4/22 4217 27026144} Qe7 {-7.3/20 6508 11460842} 6.Bb5 {-11.0/22 4255 27045061} a6 {-7.1/21 11233 20482525}
7.Bxc6+ {-10.9/22 4294 27048664} bxc6 {-7.0/20 2146 4283864} 8.h3 {-11.1/22 5790 36557077} Bf5 {-7.1/21 5215 8967099}
9.O-O {-11.2/22 5790 35883400} Qc5 {-6.7/22 10957 20167095} 10.c3 {-10.7/24 4869 30573070} Qb6 {-6.4/20 10018 18863006}
11.Nd4 {-10.7/23 5668 35441338} Bg6 {-6.3/20 9177 16948064} 12.e4 {-10.7/22 5514 34567021} c5 {-6.2/23 8031 15196386}
13.Ne2 {-11.0/22 5365 34156431} dxe4 {-6.2/22 7739 14603167} 14.Nf4 {-10.8/23 5219 34030411} Bf5 {-6.3/20 3320 6600366}
15.b3 {-10.8/21 5080 32333450} Ne7 {-6.3/20 7050 12872373} 16.Re1 {-11.2/22 4951 32013025} O-O-O {-6.2/19 4145 7681670}
17.Nc4 {-11.3/21 4825 31127458} Qc6 {-6.1/18 5422 10163437} 18.Na5 {-12.0/22 4701 29584315} Qb5 {-6.2/17 3124 5804091}
19.Nc4 {-11.8/23 3431 21974543} g5 {-6.2/19 5820 10929877} 20.Nh5 {-11.6/21 3387 21594018} Qc6 {-6.1/18 4320 7962903}
21.Bxg5 {-11.7/20 4460 29431722} Qg6 {-6.0/17 3243 6064611} 22.Bf6 {-13.4/22 5741 38708182} Qxh5 {-6.6/18 3295 6167854}
23.Bxh8 {-15.9/19 3644 24782023} Bxh3 {-7.4/19 3427 6906669} 24.e6 {-16.4/19 6976 52750036} Bxg2 {-7.4/17 896 1824781}
25.Kxg2 {-20.7/19 4279 33154868} Qg4+ {-7.6/18 1930 3980158} 26.Kh2 {-46.9/18 12504 107339712} Bh6 {M+12/34 1053 2481924}
27.Rxe4 {M-12/15 3320 27673597} Qh5+ {M+10/36 2142 5605617} 28.Rh4 {M-10/16 3258 28620227} Qxh4+ {M+9/36 1412 4107593}
29.Kg1 {M-9/17 353 3019436} Rg8+ {M+8/36 1245 3939380} 30.Kf1 {M-8/15 23 47641} Qh1+ {M+7/38 1971 7664642}
31.Ke2 {M-7/13 11 4359} Qe4+ {M+6/43 1683 11247029} 32.Ne3 {M-6/11 15 25590} Rg2 {M+5/65 1711 20001374}
33.Bd4 {M-5/9 14 15465} cxd4 {M+4/231 1764 11295135} 34.Kf1 {M-4/7 12 2078} Bxe3 {M+3/249 83 1150881}
35.fxe3 {M-3/5 12 1347} Qf3+ {M+2/249 12 75831} 36.Ke1 {M-2/3 12 90} Qe2# {M+1/249 26 49800}
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[pgn][Event "Computer event"]
[Site "Somewhere on Earth"]
[Date "2026.02.02"]
[Time "14:08:46"]
[Round "1"]
[Board "5"]
[White "Wasp 4.50"]
[Black "Stockfish 18"]
[Result "0-1"]
[Termination "mate"]
[TimeControl "nodes: 100000000"]
[PlyCount "140"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNB1KBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]

1.Nf3 {-11.7/21 5668 30371540} d5 {-6.7/26 15552 80289370} 2.d3 {-11.8/21 5548 33613332} e5 {-7.0/27 12930 64771247}
3.Nxe5 {-11.2/22 4157 25638267} Bd6 {-7.0/26 13900 68315889} 4.Nf3 {-11.2/23 4194 26026171} Nc6 {-7.1/24 6422 31336345}
5.e3 {-11.0/21 5647 35138091} Nf6 {-7.0/23 7889 39788908} 6.a3 {-11.0/23 5648 34880434} O-O {-7.1/25 12369 60593427}
7.Nbd2 {-11.0/22 5648 34851439} Re8 {-7.0/23 15628 73321116} 8.Be2 {-11.0/23 5651 34022466} Bd7 {-7.0/25 9760 44296788}
9.O-O {-11.1/20 5652 34673266} a5 {-6.8/26 33342 165969980} 10.b3 {-11.1/22 5653 35228605} Rb8 {-6.7/22 8400 42114317}
11.Bb2 {-10.7/20 4117 25927240} Bg4 {-6.6/20 3118 15549963} 12.h3 {-10.4/21 4259 26815837} Be6 {-6.6/17 1092 5270119}
13.Rfe1 {-10.6/21 5311 33722107} Be7 {-6.5/21 2946 14360749} 14.Red1 {-10.3/22 5169 31973701} Nd7 {-6.6/18 1101 4630171}
15.d4 {-10.4/20 5032 30861701} Nf6 {-6.6/19 2905 13874608} 16.c4 {-10.1/22 4904 30549414} Bd6 {-6.4/19 2158 10447047}
17.Rac1 {-9.9/19 4777 29661512} Na7 {-6.4/19 2027 9733561} 18.c5 {-10.0/19 4660 27946569} Bf8 {-6.3/19 2004 9377936}
19.Ne5 {-10.1/20 4542 28190574} Nd7 {-6.2/19 2000 9728487} 20.Nd3 {-10.0/20 4431 27711006} c6 {-6.2/20 2000 9869618}
21.Nf3 {-10.1/21 4326 25060063} Nf6 {-6.2/19 1437 6953713} 22.Ng5 {-10.2/19 4224 26636027} Ne4 {-6.1/20 2463 11937785}
23.Nxe6 {-10.2/21 3090 19705081} Rxe6 {-6.2/17 871 3864249} 24.Ne5 {-10.2/19 4077 26203015} f6 {-6.3/20 2357 12180283}
25.Nd3 {-10.1/19 3988 25323553} Re8 {-6.2/22 2718 13269254} 26.Re1 {-10.2/19 3898 25159515} g6 {-6.3/17 2124 10322084}
27.Bd1 {-10.4/20 3814 24857547} b5 {-6.2/18 2022 9851032} 28.b4 {-9.9/19 3732 23779463} Nc8 {-6.0/21 2004 9298778}
29.Bg4 {-10.1/20 3656 23282109} h5 {-6.1/18 1999 9736184} 30.Bd1 {-10.6/20 3581 23616598} h4 {-6.0/18 2000 9503760}
31.Bg4 {-10.4/21 3507 23167749} Bh6 {-6.0/18 1776 8627223} 32.bxa5 {-10.8/21 3439 23186837} Qxa5 {-6.0/20 1074 4444522}
33.Bd7 {-10.8/21 3372 21584387} Na7 {-5.9/19 811 3825672} 34.Bxe8 {-9.3/24 2477 17513554} Rxe8 {-6.1/17 600 2813273}
35.Rc2 {-9.4/22 3287 23177476} Nc8 {-6.1/19 1257 5810174} 36.Bc1 {-10.0/23 3225 22808324} Ne7 {-6.2/18 593 2768566}
37.Nb4 {-10.1/22 3168 21822826} Nf5 {-6.1/23 6856 32180885} 38.Rd1 {-9.7/22 3114 21941842} Qc7 {-6.1/19 862 4022178}
39.Na6 {-9.8/24 2290 15384411} Qd7 {-6.2/19 2409 11304999} 40.Nb4 {-10.0/22 2281 15832327} Bf8 {-6.0/22 3450 15907893}
41.Rd3 {-9.4/23 2272 15905708} Ng7 {-6.1/18 1277 5807421} 42.Rb3 {-9.9/21 3018 20468810} Ne6 {-6.1/21 1386 6557189}
43.Nd3 {-10.1/22 2972 19813095} Ra8 {-6.1/19 986 4737209} 44.Rb4 {-10.4/21 2922 19539977} g5 {-6.3/23 4190 20175477}
45.Rb3 {-10.8/21 2876 19310438} Qe8 {-6.4/19 715 3440229} 46.Rb1 {-10.9/19 2831 18939807} Qh5 {-6.3/20 3444 16525621}
47.f3 {-10.3/20 2087 14213372} Ng3 {-6.5/17 256 1268698} 48.Nb4 {-10.9/21 2085 14288390} Qe8 {-6.5/21 3691 17633122}
49.Bb2 {-11.1/22 2081 14265982} Nf5 {-6.5/19 1344 6406981} 50.Rc3 {-10.6/21 2079 14393954} Ng3 {-6.3/19 2836 12886940}
51.Kh2 {-10.9/19 2775 18761238} Qd7 {-6.3/20 1838 8391397} 52.Re1 {-11.0/20 2734 18822594} Re8 {-6.5/18 487 2262941}
53.Rcc1 {-10.8/21 2695 19189696} Nf5 {-6.7/18 916 4362362} 54.Nc2 {-11.9/21 1992 13925817} Qc7+ {-7.8/18 1220 6039676}
55.Kh1 {-14.1/23 2662 18982712} Qg3 {-8.0/17 635 3246508} 56.Rg1 {-16.1/23 2624 18582814} Qf2 {-8.2/18 1574 8171027}
57.Kh2 {-16.7/22 2592 18121139} g4 {-9.3/19 1501 8181948} 58.fxg4 {-20.1/20 3628 25714133} Ng3 {M+14/71 911 4053414}
59.Ne1 {-46.7/21 5945 48056839} Ng5 {M+12/41 1482 5493970} 60.Rc2 {M-14/18 1676 12481371} Nf1+ {M+11/44 1339 4779334}
61.Rxf1 {M-13/19 1691 14122476} Qxf1 {M+10/44 1707 5498022} 62.Bc3 {M-10/19 2065 16285841} Rxe3 {M+9/53 1435 6374496}
63.Bd2 {M-9/17 129 962986} Rxe1 {M+8/59 1560 7934793} 64.Bxe1 {M-8/15 23 57025} Qxe1 {M+7/79 1573 10812359}
65.Ra2 {M-7/13 18 59623} Ne4 {M+6/106 1626 14164128} 66.Re2 {M-6/11 16 51604} Qxe2 {M+5/245 924 13392550}
67.g5 {M-5/9 13 2512} fxg5 {M+4/245 89 1258970} 68.a4 {M-4/7 14 2657} Ng3 {M+3/245 34 170626}
69.axb5 {M-3/5 13 636} Qf1 {M+2/245 31 49784} 70.bxc6 {M-2/3 12 12} Qh1# {M+1/245 26 33334}
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[/pgn]

[pgn][Event "Computer event"]
[Site "Somewhere on Earth"]
[Date "2026.02.02"]
[Time "14:11:44"]
[Round "1"]
[Board "6"]
[White "Stockfish 18"]
[Black "Wasp 4.50"]
[Result "0-1"]
[Termination "mate"]
[TimeControl "nodes: 100000000"]
[PlyCount "60"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNB1KBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]

1.d4 {-6.8/30 41397 204485009} d5 {-11.7/21 4161 25672244} 2.e4 {-6.6/24 9436 47698453} Nc6 {-12.4/22 4193 26845543}
3.Ne2 {-6.9/25 18013 93205336} dxe4 {-12.9/22 5644 36575475} 4.a3 {-7.0/31 32416 161465868} Bg4 {-13.1/24 4228 27558290}
5.d5 {-7.1/26 13519 65356701} Bxe2 {-13.5/24 4268 28101818} 6.Bxe2 {-7.4/21 3820 18699347} Nd4 {-13.7/23 4307 27508576}
7.Bd1 {-7.5/25 11034 54045882} Qxd5 {-13.9/24 4347 27562796} 8.Nd2 {-7.5/20 1318 6326638} e3 {-14.9/24 4391 29362187}
9.fxe3 {-7.1/17 691 3182055} Qxg2 {-15.5/25 4437 29967880} 10.Rf1 {-7.5/21 3747 18269453} Nc6 {-15.3/23 4485 30040769}
11.Rf2 {-7.7/21 3779 18912354} Qg1+ {-16.5/23 4405 29111207} 12.Nf1 {-7.4/17 213 1055874} O-O-O {-17.3/23 5777 39812981}
13.Bf3 {-8.2/22 3785 18570509} Nf6 {-18.8/22 4207 29303007} 14.b3 {-8.3/20 2312 11564020} Ne5 {-20.1/24 4139 31089440}
15.h3 {-9.0/19 2053 10122423} Nxf3+ {-25.2/25 4069 32300585} 16.Rxf3 {-9.3/16 631 3303819} Ne4 {-26.2/25 4003 33475705}
17.Rf4 {-9.8/18 2240 12353978} Qg2 {-26.7/24 3938 34433391} 18.Bd2 {-10.0/17 2940 17439137} Rxd2 {-49.8/21 11887 107902522}
19.Nxd2 {M-11/78 570 2695450} Qxd2+ {M+12/16 3556 28360610} 20.Kf1 {M-10/43 426 1802603} Ng3+ {M+11/17 3507 30144948}
21.Kg1 {M-9/47 526 2537870} Ne2+ {M+10/17 3460 30740495} 22.Kf1 {M-10/46 722 3160611} Nxf4 {M+9/17 3411 29951593}
23.exf4 {M-8/57 840 4936334} e6 {M+8/15 706 6770487} 24.b4 {M-7/60 991 5838246} Bc5 {M+7/13 132 1121402}
25.bxc5 {M-6/103 1054 8743145} Rd8 {M+6/11 31 131300} 26.Rd1 {M-5/245 762 10437934} Qxd1+ {M+5/9 23 63614}
27.Kg2 {M-4/245 151 2432323} Qxc2+ {M+4/7 10 3309} 28.Kg3 {M-3/245 53 538688} Rd3+ {M+3/5 11 3728}
29.Kh4 {M-2/245 20 51190} Qg2 {M+2/3 13 885} 30.a4 {M-1/245 31 4909} Rxh3# {M+1/1 12 225}
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Re: PlentyChess vs SF17.1 and neutral book

Post by Jouni »

Stockfish 18 improves +16 elo even with neutral book:

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1   Stockfish 18         +19  +11/=189/-0 52.75%  105.5/200
2   PlentyChess 7.0.37   -19  +0/=189/-11 47.25%   94.5/200

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