Of course there are many players on ICS and FICS that are computer programs, but how many server players are dedicated chess computers?
The obvious starting point is having a dedicated unit that has some sort of PC interface. From there one would need some driver software that would connect the machine to a chess server client like xboard running on a local box.
Other than the Novag Citrine and its close cousins, are there any other currently produced dedicated units that have a PC interface?
I wonder if the folks at ICC would pony up a free account for someone with a dedicated unit. It seems to me that this would be a net benefit as it would draw interest from the potential purchaser crowd.
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Re: Dedicated chess computers on the servers
Currently produced?sje wrote:Other than the Novag Citrine and its close cousins, are there any other currently produced dedicated units that have a PC interface?
no
there were several computers from the past that tinkered with the idea of PC connections but not really to play online
here is a combined dedicated computer and PC
it is very rare and was called the "Bridge between the PC and the Dedicated
it ran Richard Langs Genius 3 Program
the Mephisto Wonder Machine
i do not own this very rare bird:
http://www.schachcomputer.at/wundermaschine2.jpg
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Re: Dedicated chess computers on the servers
Years ago, a Novag Sapphire and Sapphire 2 ran on FICS and ICC.
It used to beat NoonianChess and I often wondered how they put it
on ICC. I was guessing software that worked with ICC and had an
Auto232 interface.
I noticed (minutes ago) that the Novag Sapphire II has a telephone type
plug in it. Don't know what its for yet.
It used to beat NoonianChess and I often wondered how they put it
on ICC. I was guessing software that worked with ICC and had an
Auto232 interface.
I noticed (minutes ago) that the Novag Sapphire II has a telephone type
plug in it. Don't know what its for yet.
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Re: Dedicated chess computers on the servers
you can make the Star Diamond/sapphire running as UCI engines ...
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Reverse engineering dedicated chess computers
It seems to me that none of the dedicated units had any custom chips, so it shouldn't be too difficult to reverse engineer a unit's functionality. The exception is if a single CPU/ROM chip is being used and the mask has been set to disallow ROM probing. Otherwise, single modern desktop could emulate a dozen dedicated units without a problem.
So, even units without a serial port could still be run on the servers.
So, even units without a serial port could still be run on the servers.
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Re: Dedicated chess computers on the servers
yesmclane wrote:you can make the Star Diamond/sapphire running as UCI engines ...
but Charles mentioned the Citrine and its "Cousins" so i took this to mean all Novag computers with the PC Interface(Super Vip ,Sapphire I and II,Star Sapphire Star Diamond..etc etc)
also neither The Sd or SS are currently available which i take to mean still being sold as new
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Re: Dedicated chess computers on the servers
oops make that ...Steve MentionedSteve B wrote: yes but Charles mentioned
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Re: Dedicated chess computers on the servers
I ran SapphireII on FICS. (Wow, almost exactly ten years ago... my how the time flies...) It achieved about 2000 at blitz, 2050 standard, and 2200 lightning. Blitz was lower than one would expect, because it kept getting stomped by real computers (crafty clones at the time).CRoberson wrote:Years ago, a Novag Sapphire and Sapphire 2 ran on FICS and ICC.
I noticed (minutes ago) that the Novag Sapphire II has a telephone type
plug in it. Don't know what its for yet.
The plug exposes an RS-232 interface (specs here). I bought the Novag Distributor and wrote a custom shim between the serial port/Novag protocol and WinBoard engine protocol. I haven't used a PC for a while, so to play it online again I'd need to get a USB-serial adapter and recode the shim for OS X + XBoard. (Are there any Cocoa native FICS interfaces for the Mac?)
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Re: Dedicated chess computers on the servers
This probably isn't what you're looking for, but I think it's interesting that this account ran on a Linksys WRT54G router (on FICS). 

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Finger of Sjeng:
Last disconnected: Sun Nov 28, 18:53 CST 2004
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Blitz 2026 265.3 3933 1489 364 5786 2251 (12-Jul-2001)
Standard 2243 246.7 842 288 52 1182 2246 (19-Sep-2004)
Lightning 2024 267.9 345 270 38 653 2493 (14-Jan-2002)
Bughouse 1604 350.0 417 502 2 921 1942 (26-Nov-2000)
Crazyhouse 2274 350.0 2775 1310 11 4096 2530 (29-Jun-2001)
Suicide 2579 346.9 852 190 31 1073 2642 (17-Jul-2002)
1: Deep Sjeng MIPS 0.2 (Jun 9 2004)
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3: Running on a Linksys WRT54G v2 wireless router. It has the same knowledge as the full Deep Sjeng, but this hardware is very slow.
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5: Older versions of Sjeng are freely available on http://www.sjeng.org
6: Deep Sjeng is a commercial product from Lokasoft: http://lokasoft.nl/uk/deepsjengintro.htm
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Re: Dedicated chess computers on the servers
Now, that is amazing. You were the one doing that and you live in Portland. At the time, I lived in Hillsboro - just up the road from you.IanO wrote:I ran SapphireII on FICS. (Wow, almost exactly ten years ago... my how the time flies...) It achieved about 2000 at blitz, 2050 standard, and 2200 lightning. Blitz was lower than one would expect, because it kept getting stomped by real computers (crafty clones at the time).CRoberson wrote:Years ago, a Novag Sapphire and Sapphire 2 ran on FICS and ICC.
I noticed (minutes ago) that the Novag Sapphire II has a telephone type
plug in it. Don't know what its for yet.
The plug exposes an RS-232 interface (specs here). I bought the Novag Distributor and wrote a custom shim between the serial port/Novag protocol and WinBoard engine protocol. I haven't used a PC for a while, so to play it online again I'd need to get a USB-serial adapter and recode the shim for OS X + XBoard. (Are there any Cocoa native FICS interfaces for the Mac?)
Ian