World Chess Championship (Game 10)

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Re: World Chess Championship (Game 10)

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Anil wrote:
S.Taylor wrote:
AdminX wrote:[Event "World Chess Championship 2008"]
[Site "Bonn"]
[Date "2008.10.27"]
[Round "10"]
[White "Kramnik, Vladimir"]
[Black "Anand, Viswanathan"]
[Result "*"]
[WhiteElo "2772"]
[BlackElo "2783"]
[PlyCount "44"]
[EventDate "2008.10.27"]
[EventCountry "GER"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. Nf3 c5 5. g3 cxd4 6. Nxd4 O-O 7. Bg2 d5 8.
cxd5 Nxd5 9. Qb3 Qa5 10. Bd2 Nc6 11. Nxc6 bxc6 12. O-O Bxc3 13. bxc3 Ba6 14.
Rfd1 Qc5 15. e4 Bc4 16. Qa4 Nb6 17. Qb4 Qh5 18. Re1 c5 19. Qa5 Rfc8 20. Be3 Be2
21. Bf4 e5 22. Be3 Bg4 *

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Kramnik is a bit messed up already. His novelty wasn't a good one it seems. Now Q-b5-f1 and h3 or f3?
If f3 then simply Bxf3! Why give a pawn away?
change my "and" to "then".
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Re: World Chess Championship (Game 10)

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Anil wrote:
S.Taylor wrote:
AdminX wrote:[Event "World Chess Championship 2008"]
[Site "Bonn"]
[Date "2008.10.27"]
[Round "10"]
[White "Kramnik, Vladimir"]
[Black "Anand, Viswanathan"]
[Result "*"]
[WhiteElo "2772"]
[BlackElo "2783"]
[PlyCount "44"]
[EventDate "2008.10.27"]
[EventCountry "GER"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. Nf3 c5 5. g3 cxd4 6. Nxd4 O-O 7. Bg2 d5 8.
cxd5 Nxd5 9. Qb3 Qa5 10. Bd2 Nc6 11. Nxc6 bxc6 12. O-O Bxc3 13. bxc3 Ba6 14.
Rfd1 Qc5 15. e4 Bc4 16. Qa4 Nb6 17. Qb4 Qh5 18. Re1 c5 19. Qa5 Rfc8 20. Be3 Be2
21. Bf4 e5 22. Be3 Bg4 *

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Kramnik is a bit messed up already. His novelty wasn't a good one it seems. Now Q-b5-f1 and h3 or f3?
If f3 then simply Bxf3! Why give a pawn away?
Not if the queen is sitting on f1 as in his example. Still I think it is a bit early for Kramnik to be playing defensive here.
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Re: World Chess Championship (Game 10)

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rlsuth wrote:
S.Taylor wrote:
Kramnik is a bit messed up already. His novelty wasn't a good one it seems. Now Q-b5-f1 and h3 or f3?

How about he just takes the pawn with Bxc5?
23..Nc4 24. Qb5..Nd2 or Be6=
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Re: World Chess Championship (Game 10)

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S.Taylor wrote:
Anil wrote:
S.Taylor wrote:
AdminX wrote:[Event "World Chess Championship 2008"]
[Site "Bonn"]
[Date "2008.10.27"]
[Round "10"]
[White "Kramnik, Vladimir"]
[Black "Anand, Viswanathan"]
[Result "*"]
[WhiteElo "2772"]
[BlackElo "2783"]
[PlyCount "44"]
[EventDate "2008.10.27"]
[EventCountry "GER"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. Nf3 c5 5. g3 cxd4 6. Nxd4 O-O 7. Bg2 d5 8.
cxd5 Nxd5 9. Qb3 Qa5 10. Bd2 Nc6 11. Nxc6 bxc6 12. O-O Bxc3 13. bxc3 Ba6 14.
Rfd1 Qc5 15. e4 Bc4 16. Qa4 Nb6 17. Qb4 Qh5 18. Re1 c5 19. Qa5 Rfc8 20. Be3 Be2
21. Bf4 e5 22. Be3 Bg4 *

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Kramnik is a bit messed up already. His novelty wasn't a good one it seems. Now Q-b5-f1 and h3 or f3?
If f3 then simply Bxf3! Why give a pawn away?
change my "and" to "then".
But, Rybka says then it may lead to a Draw.
23. Qb5 f6 24. Qf1 Qf7 25. f3 Be6 (Score 0.00)
Kramnik has some edge now b'cos of his novelty and Kramnik has to win today to keep fighting.
Last edited by Anil on Mon Oct 27, 2008 5:04 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: World Chess Championship (Game 10)

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Terry McCracken wrote: 23..Nc4 24. Qb5..Nd2 or Be6=

Yes, that reminds me so much of what used to happen to me over the board when I played. :(
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Re: World Chess Championship (Game 10)

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[Event "World Chess Championship 2008"]
[Site "Bonn"]
[Date "2008.10.27"]
[Round "10"]
[White "Kramnik, Vladimir"]
[Black "Anand, Viswanathan"]
[Result "*"]
[WhiteElo "2772"]
[BlackElo "2783"]
[PlyCount "45"]
[EventDate "2008.10.27"]
[EventCountry "GER"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. Nf3 c5 5. g3 cxd4 6. Nxd4 O-O 7. Bg2 d5 8.
cxd5 Nxd5 9. Qb3 Qa5 10. Bd2 Nc6 11. Nxc6 bxc6 12. O-O Bxc3 13. bxc3 Ba6 14.
Rfd1 Qc5 15. e4 Bc4 16. Qa4 Nb6 17. Qb4 Qh5 18. Re1 c5 19. Qa5 Rfc8 20. Be3 Be2
21. Bf4 e5 22. Be3 Bg4 23. Qa6 *

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Re: World Chess Championship (Game 10)

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rlsuth wrote:
Terry McCracken wrote: 23..Nc4 24. Qb5..Nd2 or Be6=

Yes, that reminds me so much of what used to happen to me over the board when I played. :(
Happens to all of us, chess isn't easy unless your opponent is weak. :wink:
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Re: World Chess Championship (Game 10)

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As black I don't like the a8 rook. So I like the Rc7 move with the idea of Rac8 to follow at some point however Anand plays ....

[Event "World Chess Championship 2008"]
[Site "Bonn"]
[Date "2008.10.27"]
[Round "10"]
[White "Kramnik, Vladimir"]
[Black "Anand, Viswanathan"]
[Result "*"]
[WhiteElo "2772"]
[BlackElo "2783"]
[PlyCount "46"]
[EventDate "2008.10.27"]
[EventCountry "GER"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. Nf3 c5 5. g3 cxd4 6. Nxd4 O-O 7. Bg2 d5 8.
cxd5 Nxd5 9. Qb3 Qa5 10. Bd2 Nc6 11. Nxc6 bxc6 12. O-O Bxc3 13. bxc3 Ba6 14.
Rfd1 Qc5 15. e4 Bc4 16. Qa4 Nb6 17. Qb4 Qh5 18. Re1 c5 19. Qa5 Rfc8 20. Be3 Be2
21. Bf4 e5 22. Be3 Bg4 23. Qa6 f6 *

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Re: World Chess Championship (Game 10)

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[Event "World Chess Championship 2008"]
[Site "Bonn"]
[Date "2008.10.27"]
[Round "10"]
[White "Kramnik, Vladimir"]
[Black "Anand, Viswanathan"]
[Result "*"]
[WhiteElo "2772"]
[BlackElo "2783"]
[PlyCount "47"]
[EventDate "2008.10.27"]
[EventCountry "GER"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. Nf3 c5 5. g3 cxd4 6. Nxd4 O-O 7. Bg2 d5 8.
cxd5 Nxd5 9. Qb3 Qa5 10. Bd2 Nc6 11. Nxc6 bxc6 12. O-O Bxc3 13. bxc3 Ba6 14.
Rfd1 Qc5 15. e4 Bc4 16. Qa4 Nb6 17. Qb4 Qh5 18. Re1 c5 19. Qa5 Rfc8 20. Be3 Be2
21. Bf4 e5 22. Be3 Bg4 23. Qa6 f6 24. a4 *

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"Good decisions come from experience, and experience comes from bad decisions."
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Re: World Chess Championship (Game 10)

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[Event "World Chess Championship 2008"]
[Site "Bonn"]
[Date "2008.10.27"]
[Round "10"]
[White "Kramnik, Vladimir"]
[Black "Anand, Viswanathan"]
[Result "*"]
[WhiteElo "2772"]
[BlackElo "2783"]
[PlyCount "48"]
[EventDate "2008.10.27"]
[EventCountry "GER"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. Nf3 c5 5. g3 cxd4 6. Nxd4 O-O 7. Bg2 d5 8.
cxd5 Nxd5 9. Qb3 Qa5 10. Bd2 Nc6 11. Nxc6 bxc6 12. O-O Bxc3 13. bxc3 Ba6 14.
Rfd1 Qc5 15. e4 Bc4 16. Qa4 Nb6 17. Qb4 Qh5 18. Re1 c5 19. Qa5 Rfc8 20. Be3 Be2
21. Bf4 e5 22. Be3 Bg4 23. Qa6 f6 24. a4 Qf7 *

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"Good decisions come from experience, and experience comes from bad decisions."
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Ted Summers