CCRL rating lists updated (15th January 2010)

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CCRL rating lists updated (15th January 2010)

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The latest CCRL Rating Lists and Statistics are available for viewing from the following links:
http://computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/4040.live/ (40/40)
http://www.computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/404.live/ (40/4)
http://www.computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/404FRC/ (FRC 40/4)

Please note that the three lists are updated separately to each other.
The links given in each update report will give you the currently up to date lists.

The links to the various rating lists can be found just beneath the default Best Versions list (as in this screenshot).

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Currently active testers are Graham Banks, Shaun Brewer, Aser Huerga, Kirill Kryukov, Dom Leste, Denis Mendoza, Cody Rowland, Wassim Saeed, Charles Smith and Gabor Szots.

Be aware that in the early stages of testing, an engine's rating can often fluctuate a lot.
It is strongly advised to look at the many other rating lists available in order to get a more accurate overall picture of an engine's rating relative to others.

The LOS (likelihood of superiority) stats to the right hand side of each rating list tell you the likelihood in percentage terms of each engine being superior to the engine directly below them.

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Re: CCRL rating lists updated (15th January 2010)

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Interesting info as usual Graham.

I wonder why CCRL shows so little interest in testing StockFish 1.6 at 40/40 so far. Or maybe you forgot to update the list?

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Re: CCRL rating lists updated (15th January 2010)

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Carlos777 wrote:Interesting info as usual Graham.

I wonder why CCRL shows so little interest in testing StockFish 1.6 at 40/40 so far. Or maybe you forgot to update the list?

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In which category Carlos?
64-bit, 32-bit, 4CPU, 2CPU, 1CPU?

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Re: CCRL rating lists updated (15th January 2010)

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I can't see any here:

http://computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/4040.live/

Only SF 1.5.1 results. I hope I have not offended you in any way. It was not my intention btw.

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Re: CCRL rating lists updated (15th January 2010)

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Carlos777 wrote:I can't see any here:

http://computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/4040.live/

Only SF 1.5.1 results. I hope I have not offended you in any way. It was not my intention btw.

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I don't know what is the latest version is. However it is improving
daily and diff versions come out quite often.

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Re: CCRL rating lists updated (15th January 2010)

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Carlos777 wrote:I can't see any here:

http://computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/4040.live/

Only SF 1.5.1 results. I hope I have not offended you in any way. It was not my intention btw.

Best,
Carlos
Hi Carlos,

Of course you haven't offended me. It was a fair enough question. :)
Stockfish 1.6.2 is being tested, but the 64-bit 4CPU version doesn't yet have enough games to appear in the default best versions list.
However, if you click on any of the specific categories listed, you'll certainly see the results to date.

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Re: CCRL rating lists updated (15th January 2010)

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Ok. I am looking at the Complete list and yes, you are right Graham. There are many versions of SF1.6 w32, x64 with 1, 2 and 4 cpu tested.

This version is the one being tested more:

Stockfish 1.6.2 32-bit 3024 +31 −31 62.5% −76.7 48.6% 319

I don't want to start a war here :D because I like both testing groups :wink: , but my point was that CEGT has tested SF 1.6 more and faster, I am not sure why is that, maybe they have more resources. I mean SF 1.6 was released on Xmas.

CEGT:

4 Stockfish 1.6 x64 4CPU 3127 16 16 1022 64.8% 3021 42.1%
8 Stockfish 1.6 x64 2CPU 3065 20 20 650 58.2% 3008 45.8%
14 Stockfish 1.6 x64 1CPU 3034 20 20 634 58.6% 2974 43.7%

OTOH, one thing that I like of CCRL is the way you sort the results by OS (w32, x64) and number of CPUs. This is very useful information.

Thank you guys for your hard work (CCRL and CEGT.)

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Carlos
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Re: CCRL rating lists updated (15th January 2010)

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Just to highlight

Stockfish 1.6 & 1.6s version comparisons at the 40/4 time control.

Results

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Re: CCRL rating lists updated (15th January 2010)

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Carlos777 wrote:Interesting info as usual Graham.

I wonder why CCRL shows so little interest in testing StockFish 1.6 at 40/40 so far. Or maybe you forgot to update the list?

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Carlos
Hi Carlos.

there will be a lot more Stockfish 1.6 games in the next 40/40 update :)

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Re: CCRL rating lists updated (15th January 2010)

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Carlos777 wrote:CEGT has tested SF 1.6 more and faster, I am not sure why is that, maybe they have more resources. I mean SF 1.6 was released on Xmas.
I think it's mainly because you can run twice as many games using a 40/20 time control.
Also, I think you'll find we tend to spread our resources over testing a wider range of engines.
These comments are not intended as a criticism of CEGT. They do a great job.

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