Discussion of computer chess matches and engine tournaments.
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Houdini
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Post by Houdini Wed Dec 05, 2012 10:39 pm
IWB wrote: You are welcome, but it is not just me, several people donated some money to make this happen!
Big thanks to you, Clemens and all the people that donated for organizing and broadcasting the match.
Probably nobody expected that the 6-game match would be decided in 4 games
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Robert
IWB
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Post by IWB Wed Dec 05, 2012 10:39 pm
Somehow the game was finished automaticaly but I think it doesn't matter:
Lion
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Post by Lion Wed Dec 05, 2012 10:54 pm
Will there still be a game 5 and 6 ?
IWB
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Post by IWB Wed Dec 05, 2012 10:56 pm
Hi Robert,
Houdini wrote:
Big thanks to you, Clemens and all the people that donated for organizing and broadcasting the match.
Probably nobody expected that the 6-game match would be decided in 4 games
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Robert
Of course I had certain expectaitions but for sure I did not expect 3.5 out of 4 for ANY engine. I expected a lot of long and boring draws - it was far from that!
I am still very curious about the last two games as they will cover my favorite opening (which is unusual for comp chess) but I can already conclude that Houdini won convincingly this little tourney.
Bye
Ingo
IWB
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Post by IWB Wed Dec 05, 2012 10:58 pm
Lion wrote: Will there still be a game 5 and 6 ?
Asking me they will be played!
Same conditions, different opening. When? I don't know yet. It might be some time as all participant have to have some time left again. (3 parties to coordinate ...)
Bye
Ingo
enhorning
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Post by enhorning Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:34 pm
I will try to do a live webtransmission via browser of the game.
Thank you very much for the webtransmission! It was a very exciting game to watch. And thanks to Ingo and company for arranging it all!
Laskos
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Post by Laskos Thu Dec 06, 2012 1:25 am
IWB wrote: Somehow the game was finished automaticaly but I think it doesn't matter:
Mate in 18 Rybka, Mate in 33 Houdini.
Dr.Wael Deeb
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Post by Dr.Wael Deeb Thu Dec 06, 2012 8:39 am
Lavir wrote: Somebody should call it the Rybka Blind Cluster
Seriously, wanting to play 46. Kb1?? is terrible .
Fully agreed......
All in all,it's playing style seems to be rather passive on the long run.....
No sign of whatever of the aggressive style we're used to watch when Deep Rybka is in action........
Dr.D
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Lion
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Post by Lion Thu Dec 06, 2012 10:18 am
I have to say also that I am supprised...
I used to play centaur vs the Cluster and dont remember it playing in that way...
Maybe computer chess has evolved a lot during these last 2 Years and only now when matching Houdini 3 vs the cluster we see how much so.
rgds
Lavir
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Post by Lavir Thu Dec 06, 2012 10:44 am
Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:
No sign of whatever of the aggressive style we're used to watch when Deep Rybka is in action........
It can either be this is because Lucas did remove every form of contempt from the Cluster for fear of losing, but this actually do worse because it will play more passively (and against Houdini playing passively = death).
The same happens (either if less) if you put the contempt to 0 for Houdini; it will not play risky lines, sure, but it is counterproductive because it plays more passive than usual (and Houdini is all in all an engine that hungers for activity).
This is just an hypothesis, naturally, it can either be instead that the Rybka software in the cluster is a little upgraded (downgraded in this case) and it plays more passively.
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