I'm still a week away from finishing my 3.0.0 testing.
Introducing Igel chess engine
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Graham Banks
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Re: Introducing Igel chess engine
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voffka
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Re: Igel 3.0.5
Hello Ed,
Thank you for testing Igel. This is on short tc?Rebel wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 6:58 pmSeems about right.voffka wrote: ↑Wed Apr 28, 2021 2:15 am
Igel 3.0.5 at https://github.com/vshcherbyna/igel/releases/tag/3.0.5 (official executable binaries for Windows and IGN net).
This release brings significant improvements in search, time management and evaluation. I accidentally found a strong patch in search which brought around 12 elo in LTC in one shot. Overall strength increase due to search/time management improvements is around 20 elo, strength increase due to new network is 20 elo more. There are also some improvements in SMP mode that were quite good in short time controls: 15 elo, but hard to test on long time control as it will require a lot of computational power.
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No. Engine 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Score Games Perc ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 1 Stockfish 12 xxxx 62.0 79.5 84.5 81.5 86.5 88.5 87.0 569.5 / 700 (81.36%) 2 Komodo Dragon 38.0 xxxx 69.0 81.0 76.5 78.0 77.0 80.0 499.5 / 700 (71.36%) 3 Komodo 14 20.5 31.0 xxxx 62.5 58.0 58.5 62.0 62.0 354.5 / 700 (50.64%) 4 RubiChess 2.1 15.5 19.0 37.5 xxxx 54.0 53.0 56.0 58.0 293.0 / 700 (41.86%) 5 SlowChess 2.5 18.5 23.5 42.0 46.0 xxxx 53.5 46.0 55.5 285.0 / 700 (40.71%) 6 Igel 3.0.5 13.5 22.0 41.5 47.0 46.5 xxxx 49.5 54.5 274.5 / 700 (39.21%) 7 Ethereal 12.75 11.5 23.0 38.0 44.0 54.0 50.5 xxxx 50.5 271.5 / 700 (38.79%) 8 Igel 3.0.0 13.0 20.0 38.0 42.0 44.5 45.5 49.5 xxxx 252.5 / 700 (36.07%)
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voffka
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Re: Introducing Igel chess engine
Hello Graham,

Sorry about that. The elo increase felt worth the releaseGraham Banks wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 11:55 pmI'm still a week away from finishing my 3.0.0 testing.
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voffka
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Re: Introducing Igel chess engine
Hello Alex,
Sure, I will compile soon ARM64 NEON. I am curios if Rubi 2.1 on your list was also an ARM compile or a windows binary running via emulation?
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Graham Banks
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Re: Introducing Igel chess engine
I'll forgive you.voffka wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 12:21 am Hello Graham,
Sorry about that. The elo increase felt worth the releaseGraham Banks wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 11:55 pmI'm still a week away from finishing my 3.0.0 testing.![]()
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voffka
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Re: Introducing Igel chess engine
Hello Alex,
Please check the ARM64 NEON build at https://github.com/vshcherbyna/igel/rel ... _3_0_5.exe. The network is already embedded inside, so nothing to configure.
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Rebel
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Re: Igel 3.0.5
CCRL 40/2.voffka wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 12:20 am Hello Ed,
Thank you for testing Igel. This is on short tc?Rebel wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 6:58 pmSeems about right.voffka wrote: ↑Wed Apr 28, 2021 2:15 am
Igel 3.0.5 at https://github.com/vshcherbyna/igel/releases/tag/3.0.5 (official executable binaries for Windows and IGN net).
This release brings significant improvements in search, time management and evaluation. I accidentally found a strong patch in search which brought around 12 elo in LTC in one shot. Overall strength increase due to search/time management improvements is around 20 elo, strength increase due to new network is 20 elo more. There are also some improvements in SMP mode that were quite good in short time controls: 15 elo, but hard to test on long time control as it will require a lot of computational power.
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No. Engine 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Score Games Perc ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 1 Stockfish 12 xxxx 62.0 79.5 84.5 81.5 86.5 88.5 87.0 569.5 / 700 (81.36%) 2 Komodo Dragon 38.0 xxxx 69.0 81.0 76.5 78.0 77.0 80.0 499.5 / 700 (71.36%) 3 Komodo 14 20.5 31.0 xxxx 62.5 58.0 58.5 62.0 62.0 354.5 / 700 (50.64%) 4 RubiChess 2.1 15.5 19.0 37.5 xxxx 54.0 53.0 56.0 58.0 293.0 / 700 (41.86%) 5 SlowChess 2.5 18.5 23.5 42.0 46.0 xxxx 53.5 46.0 55.5 285.0 / 700 (40.71%) 6 Igel 3.0.5 13.5 22.0 41.5 47.0 46.5 xxxx 49.5 54.5 274.5 / 700 (39.21%) 7 Ethereal 12.75 11.5 23.0 38.0 44.0 54.0 50.5 xxxx 50.5 271.5 / 700 (38.79%) 8 Igel 3.0.0 13.0 20.0 38.0 42.0 44.5 45.5 49.5 xxxx 252.5 / 700 (36.07%)
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AlexChess
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Re: Introducing Igel chess engine
Thank you my chess friend! You will have results of Igel 3.0 5 against all top engines on Windows 10 ARM64 ASAPvoffka wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 1:19 am Hello Alex,
Please check the ARM64 NEON build at https://github.com/vshcherbyna/igel/rel ... _3_0_5.exe. The network is already embedded inside, so nothing to configure.
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Damir
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Re: Introducing Igel chess engine
Thanks for the new engine Volodymyr, but unfortunately I am experiencing time problems with latest version of Igel...
It seems there is no NNUE parameter when I open Igel parameters..
After 32 moves engine stopped responding and lost on time in a 16+0 game....
No Network File in Igel parameter: https://www.solidfiles.com/v/y6RPMGgd674MM
Igel lost on time: https://www.solidfiles.com/v/dN87ZRB3gN7PM
It seems there is no NNUE parameter when I open Igel parameters..
After 32 moves engine stopped responding and lost on time in a 16+0 game....
No Network File in Igel parameter: https://www.solidfiles.com/v/y6RPMGgd674MM
Igel lost on time: https://www.solidfiles.com/v/dN87ZRB3gN7PM
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voffka
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Re: Introducing Igel chess engine
Hello Damir,
Thanks for the feedback. The evaloption is removed in Igel 3.0.0 as it was redundant. Regarding the lost on time - this is worrying, I run probably around 200k games and did not saw this issue, I will closely monitor to see and understand what is going on.Damir wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 11:04 am Thanks for the new engine Volodymyr, but unfortunately I am experiencing time problems with latest version of Igel...
It seems there is no NNUE parameter when I open Igel parameters..
After 32 moves engine stopped responding and lost on time in a 16+0 game....
No Network File in Igel parameter: https://www.solidfiles.com/v/y6RPMGgd674MM
Igel lost on time: https://www.solidfiles.com/v/dN87ZRB3gN7PM
