The Mystic And The Cosmos

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The Mystic And The Cosmos

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THE MYSTIC AND THE COSMOS

Intel i5 Quad
ChessGUI
256mb hash each
3-4-5 piece tablebases
Ponder off
GBSelect2019.cgb book
40 moves in 25 minutes repeating (adapted for the CCRL)
2 cycles 26 rounds
All engines 64-bit where available


Participants

Schooner 2.2 64-bit
Arasan 22.2 64-bit
Seer 2.0.1 64-bit
Toga III 0.3.12 64-bit
Wasp 4.50 64-bit
Halogen 10 64-bit
Nirvanachess 2.5 64-bit
Winter 0.9 64-bit
Orion 0.8 64-bit
Roc 1.7 64-bit
Lc0 0.27.0 w703810 64-bit
Clover 2.2 64-bit
Marvin 5.0.0 64-bit
Combusken 1.4.0 64-bit


Games and standings will be available after every four rounds from the following link:
http://kirill-kryukov.com/chess/discuss ... =7&t=13008

If you install TLCV (Tom's Live Chess Viewer) on your computer, you can watch the games live move by move. You'll also be able to chat to others following the tournament in the chatroom there.
http://kirill-kryukov.com/chess/discuss ... p?id=42959
Host - GrahamCCRL.dyndns.org Port - 16053

Linux users can use Livius:
https://github.com/kmar/livius

There is also a Livius windows version.
It has live pv boards as a nice addition.
http://www.crabaware.com/livius/
gbanksnz at gmail.com
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Re: The Mystic And The Cosmos

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THE MYSTIC AND THE COSMOS

Intel i5 Quad
ChessGUI
256mb hash each
3-4-5 piece tablebases
Ponder off
GBSelect2019.cgb book
40 moves in 25 minutes repeating (adapted for the CCRL)
2 cycles 26 rounds
All engines 64-bit where available


Standings after Round 4

3.0 - Combusken 1.4.0 64-bit
3.0 - Clover 2.3.1 64-bit
2.5 - Seer 2.0.1 64-bit
2.5 - Halogen 10 64-bit
2.5 - Arasan 22.2 64-bit
2.0 - Schooner 2.2 64-bit
2.0 - Roc 1.7 64-bit
2.0 - Marvin 5.0.0 64-bit
2.0 - Lc0 0.27.0 w703810 64-bit
1.5 - Wasp 4.50 64-bit
1.5 - Orion 0.8 64-bit
1.5 - Nirvanachess 2.5 64-bit
1.5 - Winter 0.9 64-bit
0.5 - Toga III 0.3.12 64-bit


Games and standings will be available after every four rounds from the following link:
http://kirill-kryukov.com/chess/discuss ... =7&t=13008

If you install TLCV (Tom's Live Chess Viewer) on your computer, you can watch the games live move by move. You'll also be able to chat to others following the tournament in the chatroom there.
http://kirill-kryukov.com/chess/discuss ... p?id=42959
Host - GrahamCCRL.dyndns.org Port - 16053

Linux users can use Livius:
https://github.com/kmar/livius

There is also a Livius windows version.
It has live pv boards as a nice addition.
http://www.crabaware.com/livius/
gbanksnz at gmail.com
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Re: The Mystic And The Cosmos

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The avx2 binary is much stronger than the BMI one. Hopefully you didn’t use that one? I may have to remove them from the release.
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Re: The Mystic And The Cosmos

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dkappe wrote: Fri May 21, 2021 3:13 am The avx2 binary is much stronger than the BMI one. Hopefully you didn’t use that one? I may have to remove them from the release.
Popcount only for all of them.
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Re: The Mystic And The Cosmos

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dkappe wrote: Fri May 21, 2021 3:13 am The avx2 binary is much stronger than the BMI one. Hopefully you didn’t use that one? I may have to remove them from the release.
I think Graham's hardware doesn't support AVX instructions so that's not really an option. I believe he's using my core2 binary, unless I'm mistaken, which relies on SSE instructions for some limited acceleration and is probably a fair bit faster than a truly generic binary (though basically every CPU in the last ~2 decades supports SSE afaik). Does your BMI binary rely on SSE instructions?
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Re: The Mystic And The Cosmos

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connor_mcmonigle wrote: Fri May 21, 2021 6:57 am
dkappe wrote: Fri May 21, 2021 3:13 am The avx2 binary is much stronger than the BMI one. Hopefully you didn’t use that one? I may have to remove them from the release.
I think Graham's hardware doesn't support AVX instructions so that's not really an option. I believe he's using my core2 binary, unless I'm mistaken, which relies on SSE instructions for some limited acceleration and is probably a fair bit faster than a truly generic binary (though basically every CPU in the last ~2 decades supports SSE afaik). Does your BMI binary rely on SSE instructions?
There’s also a sse binary. The basic binary doesn’t even use popcnt. I suspect this will be a long tournament for toga III.
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Re: The Mystic And The Cosmos

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dkappe wrote: Fri May 21, 2021 8:16 am
connor_mcmonigle wrote: Fri May 21, 2021 6:57 am
dkappe wrote: Fri May 21, 2021 3:13 am The avx2 binary is much stronger than the BMI one. Hopefully you didn’t use that one? I may have to remove them from the release.
I think Graham's hardware doesn't support AVX instructions so that's not really an option. I believe he's using my core2 binary, unless I'm mistaken, which relies on SSE instructions for some limited acceleration and is probably a fair bit faster than a truly generic binary (though basically every CPU in the last ~2 decades supports SSE afaik). Does your BMI binary rely on SSE instructions?
There’s also a sse binary. The basic binary doesn’t even use popcnt. I suspect this will be a long tournament for toga III.
Ahh. That's unfortunate. Not distributing a basic binary might make some sense then.
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Re: The Mystic And The Cosmos

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dkappe wrote: Fri May 21, 2021 8:16 am
connor_mcmonigle wrote: Fri May 21, 2021 6:57 am
dkappe wrote: Fri May 21, 2021 3:13 am The avx2 binary is much stronger than the BMI one. Hopefully you didn’t use that one? I may have to remove them from the release.
I think Graham's hardware doesn't support AVX instructions so that's not really an option. I believe he's using my core2 binary, unless I'm mistaken, which relies on SSE instructions for some limited acceleration and is probably a fair bit faster than a truly generic binary (though basically every CPU in the last ~2 decades supports SSE afaik). Does your BMI binary rely on SSE instructions?
There’s also a sse binary. The basic binary doesn’t even use popcnt. I suspect this will be a long tournament for toga III.
I'm using the SSE binary.
I think that engines should be released with non-popcount, popcount, and bmi2 exes at least.
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Re: The Mystic And The Cosmos

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THE MYSTIC AND THE COSMOS

Intel i5 Quad
ChessGUI
256mb hash each
3-4-5 piece tablebases
Ponder off
GBSelect2019.cgb book
40 moves in 25 minutes repeating (adapted for the CCRL)
2 cycles 26 rounds
All engines 64-bit where available


Standings after Round 8

5.5 - Halogen 10 64-bit
5.0 - Clover 2.3.1 64-bit
4.5 - Marvin 5.0.0 64-bit
4.5 - Schooner 2.2 64-bit
4.5 - Wasp 4.50 64-bit
4.0 - Arasan 22.2 64-bit
4.0 - Seer 2.0.1 64-bit
4.0 - Nirvanachess 2.5 64-bit
4.0 - Winter 0.9 64-bit
3.5 - Roc 1.7 64-bit
3.5 - Lc0 0.27.0 w703810 64-bit
3.5 - Combusken 1.4.0 64-bit
3.0 - Orion 0.8 64-bit
2.5 - Toga III 0.3.12 64-bit


Games and standings will be available after every four rounds from the following link:
http://kirill-kryukov.com/chess/discuss ... =7&t=13008

If you install TLCV (Tom's Live Chess Viewer) on your computer, you can watch the games live move by move. You'll also be able to chat to others following the tournament in the chatroom there.
http://kirill-kryukov.com/chess/discuss ... p?id=42959
Host - GrahamCCRL.dyndns.org Port - 16053

Linux users can use Livius:
https://github.com/kmar/livius

There is also a Livius windows version.
It has live pv boards as a nice addition.
http://www.crabaware.com/livius/
gbanksnz at gmail.com
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Re: The Mystic And The Cosmos

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THE MYSTIC AND THE COSMOS

Intel i5 Quad
ChessGUI
256mb hash each
3-4-5 piece tablebases
Ponder off
GBSelect2019.cgb book
40 moves in 25 minutes repeating (adapted for the CCRL)
2 cycles 26 rounds
All engines 64-bit where available


Standings after Round 12

8.0 - Halogen 10 64-bit
7.5 - Schooner 2.2 64-bit
7.5 - Marvin 5.0.0 64-bit
7.0 - Lc0 0.27.0 w703810 64-bit
6.5 - Winter 0.9 64-bit
6.5 - Arasan 22.2 64-bit
6.5 - Clover 2.3.1 64-bit
6.0 - Roc 1.7 64-bit
5.5 - Seer 2.0.1 64-bit
5.5 - Wasp 4.50 64-bit
5.5 - Nirvanachess 2.5 64-bit
4.5 - Combusken 1.4.0 64-bit
4.0 - Orion 0.8 64-bit
3.5 - Toga III 0.3.12 64-bit


Games and standings will be available after every four rounds from the following link:
http://kirill-kryukov.com/chess/discuss ... =7&t=13008

If you install TLCV (Tom's Live Chess Viewer) on your computer, you can watch the games live move by move. You'll also be able to chat to others following the tournament in the chatroom there.
http://kirill-kryukov.com/chess/discuss ... p?id=42959
Host - GrahamCCRL.dyndns.org Port - 16053

Linux users can use Livius:
https://github.com/kmar/livius

There is also a Livius windows version.
It has live pv boards as a nice addition.
http://www.crabaware.com/livius/
gbanksnz at gmail.com