Commercial Release of Ethereal 13.00 (NNUE) for AVX2 Systems

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Re: Commercial Release of Ethereal 13.00 (NNUE) for AVX2 Systems

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Chessqueen wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 9:40 pm
AlexChess wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 6:48 pm Right, I have also completely disabled opening books. Eg if you use strongly tuned Goi 6.3 or others up to 30 moves, also if the same for all engines, the ranking results are completely fake :)

Also the idea to use only 1 CPU isn't so bad :lol:

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That would be a close result, between these two gladiators, can you match them at least 100 games :roll:
Update! Acepoint has just compiled Ethereal 13.00 github for Silicon mac M1 native. Now I can use 8 CPUs instead than 1 (up to 10 mN/s at starting position), against Igel 3.0.5 ARM64 NEON, so the challenge will be fair :)

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Re: Commercial Release of Ethereal 13.00 (NNUE) for AVX2 Systems

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AlexChess wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:09 pm
Chessqueen wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 9:40 pm
AlexChess wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 6:48 pm Right, I have also completely disabled opening books. Eg if you use strongly tuned Goi 6.3 or others up to 30 moves, also if the same for all engines, the ranking results are completely fake :)

Also the idea to use only 1 CPU isn't so bad :lol:

Image
That would be a close result, between these two gladiators, can you match them at least 100 games :roll:
Update! Acepoint has just compiled Ethereal 13.00 github for Silicon mac M1 native. Now I can use 8 CPUs instead than 1 (up to 10 mN/s at starting position), against Igel 3.0.5 ARM64 NEON, so the challenge will be fair :)

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Re: Commercial Release of Ethereal 13.00 (NNUE) for AVX2 Systems

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Graham Banks wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 1:52 am
AlexChess wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:09 pm
Chessqueen wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 9:40 pm
AlexChess wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 6:48 pm Right, I have also completely disabled opening books. Eg if you use strongly tuned Goi 6.3 or others up to 30 moves, also if the same for all engines, the ranking results are completely fake :)

Also the idea to use only 1 CPU isn't so bad :lol:

Image
That would be a close result, between these two gladiators, can you match them at least 100 games :roll:
Update! Acepoint has just compiled Ethereal 13.00 github for Silicon mac M1 native. Now I can use 8 CPUs instead than 1 (up to 10 mN/s at starting position), against Igel 3.0.5 ARM64 NEON, so the challenge will be fair :)

Regards, AlexChess
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Re: Commercial Release of Ethereal 13.00 (NNUE) for AVX2 Systems

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AndrewGrant wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 9:10 pm
pohl4711 wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 7:33 pm
pohl4711 wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 7:57 am
I just received Ethereal 13.00 for free from A.Grant (thanks!). Testrun started. Result, if all works correctly, on wednesday on my website.
Bad news:
My main test-machine (my Ryzen 3900 Notebook) is out of order (screen is dead) (good news: ongoing guarantee). Tomorrow I will contact the XMG-company. I hope, the repair wont take very long. I will report here, if there are any news.

The Ethereal 13 testrun was not finished. I will restart this run immediately, when the machine is back and running, again. Sorry for the delay to A.Grant, who gave me a free version of Ethereal 13.00 nnue (much appreciated).
No rush. Depending on the rating list, I have a good guess as to the elo changes. CCRL maybe +60 as their list is a bit top-heavy compressed, FGRL maybe the full +120 as it plays against the entire field. Thanks for testing :)
Good news: My broken main test-machine (my Ryzen 3900 Notebook) is repaired.
Testrun of Ethereal 13.00 nnue avx2 restarted. Result on Wednesday or Thursday, if all works correct, now.
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Any progress with paypal payments ?!
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Re: Commercial Release of Ethereal 13.00 (NNUE) for AVX2 Systems

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pohl4711 wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 3:21 pm
AndrewGrant wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 9:10 pm
pohl4711 wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 7:33 pm
pohl4711 wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 7:57 am
I just received Ethereal 13.00 for free from A.Grant (thanks!). Testrun started. Result, if all works correctly, on wednesday on my website.
Bad news:
My main test-machine (my Ryzen 3900 Notebook) is out of order (screen is dead) (good news: ongoing guarantee). Tomorrow I will contact the XMG-company. I hope, the repair wont take very long. I will report here, if there are any news.

The Ethereal 13 testrun was not finished. I will restart this run immediately, when the machine is back and running, again. Sorry for the delay to A.Grant, who gave me a free version of Ethereal 13.00 nnue (much appreciated).
No rush. Depending on the rating list, I have a good guess as to the elo changes. CCRL maybe +60 as their list is a bit top-heavy compressed, FGRL maybe the full +120 as it plays against the entire field. Thanks for testing :)
Good news: My broken main test-machine (my Ryzen 3900 Notebook) is repaired.
Testrun of Ethereal 13.00 nnue avx2 restarted. Result on Wednesday or Thursday, if all works correct, now.

Ethereal 12.95 is only about 35 rating point lower than Ethereal 13. NNUE why is it NOT participating in TCEC ? https://tcec-chess.com/
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Re: Commercial Release of Ethereal 13.00 (NNUE) for AVX2 Systems

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Chessqueen wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 5:19 pm Ethereal 12.95 is only about 35 rating point lower than Ethereal 13. NNUE why is it NOT participating in TCEC ? https://tcec-chess.com/
1. Can you PLEASE explain why you ALWAYS write 'NOT' instead of 'not'? This is just annoying
2. If you would really follow TCEC instead of just posting its links here for a thousand times you would know that Ethereal 12.95 IS Ethereal 13 besides some cosmetical changes.

Troll or fool?
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Re: Commercial Release of Ethereal 13.00 (NNUE) for AVX2 Systems

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RubiChess wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 6:37 pm
Chessqueen wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 5:19 pm Ethereal 12.95 is only about 35 rating point lower than Ethereal 13. NNUE why is it NOT participating in TCEC ? https://tcec-chess.com/
1. Can you PLEASE explain why you ALWAYS write 'NOT' instead of 'not'? This is just annoying

not :lol:
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mclane wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 5:12 pm Any progress with paypal payments ?!
I bought Ethereal 13 NNUE directly from Andrew using PayPal. Everything went smoothly.

Maybe, PM him for specific instrructions.
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Re: Commercial Release of Ethereal 13.00 (NNUE) for AVX2 Systems

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New Stockfish NNUE nets ara trained on Leela games. Isn't it time to give up a conservative stance on Ethereal NNUE nets.