My test for Kayra 1.0 v6 bmi2

[AlexChess]

PS: the result of my new test on Sunday. I'm invited to the largest festival of traditional carols in southern Moldova. Last year it was canceled by covid ..... this year no one can stop it .....

No one, but maybe some Omigron clones. And FYI, Omikron clones aren't SF clones you could test

+1 (for the largest festival of traditional carols in southern Moldova )

[AlexChess]

Mehmet opened my mind: maybe tournaments are not the better way to judge the strength of an engine. Too many variables: ELO error margins, hardware, book openings, tablebases, time controls. Stockfish 14.1 ELO goes from 3500 up to to 3900 according to main rating lists. I complete this SuperBlitz and follow your, but from now I switch to Vinvin EPD tests (like I was doing 30 years ago with LTCII / Pierre Nolot - Europe Echecs Tests for electronic chessboards ) adding the results of all missing engines. Much faster and impartial and after the test I can simply trash not GPLv3 & MIT compliant engines

PS: I really don't like this members war. Trust me, I'm interested only in chess engines, not in spreading flames or offend others

[mehmet123]

Mehmet opened my mind: maybe tournaments are not the better way to judge the strength of an engine. Too many variables: ELO error margins, hardware, book openings, tablebases, time controls. Stockfish 14.1 ELO goes from 3500 up to to 3900 according to main rating lists. I complete this SuperBlitz and follow your, but from now I switch to Vinvin EPD tests (like I was doing 30 years ago with LTCII / Pierre Nolot - Europe Echecs Tests for electronic chessboards ) adding the results of all missing engines. Much faster and impartial and after the test I can simply trash not GPLv3 & MIT compliant engines

PS: I really don't like this members war. Trust me, I'm interested only in chess engines, not in spreading flames or offend others

Alex, I'm sorry I won't be able to join you again
The success of a chess engine in solving more chess problems does not necessarily indicate that it is a very powerful chess engine. An engine can be optimizded to be more successful at solving problems, but often this leads to a weakening of the engine's power. The Houdini engine is one of the best examples of this. When the tactical mode option was activated in Houdini, this engine was also unrivaled in solving problems at the time, but Houdini 6 playing with tactical mode was much weaker (-21 elo for CCRL) than the standard engine.

[Eduard]

Currently on Playchess:

[AlexChess]

Mehmet opened my mind: maybe tournaments are not the better way to judge the strength of an engine. Too many variables: ELO error margins, hardware, book openings, tablebases, time controls. Stockfish 14.1 ELO goes from 3500 up to to 3900 according to main rating lists. I complete this SuperBlitz and follow your, but from now I switch to Vinvin EPD tests (like I was doing 30 years ago with LTCII / Pierre Nolot - Europe Echecs Tests for electronic chessboards ) adding the results of all missing engines. Much faster and impartial and after the test I can simply trash not GPLv3 & MIT compliant engines

PS: I really don't like this members war. Trust me, I'm interested only in chess engines, not in spreading flames or offend others

Alex, I'm sorry I won't be able to join you again
The success of a chess engine in solving more chess problems does not necessarily indicate that it is a very powerful chess engine. An engine can be optimizded to be more successful at solving problems, but often this leads to a weakening of the engine's power. The Houdini engine is one of the best examples of this. When the tactical mode option was activated in Houdini, this engine was also unrivaled in solving problems at the time, but Houdini 6 playing with tactical mode was much weaker (-21 elo for CCRL) than the standard engine.

So I will continue both (also because I want to use BSG Tournament Management now that is very complete and stable)
At the beginning I was not using opening books, avoiding to influence the engine behaviour with libraries up to 50 moves like Goixxx.bin. The first moves were almost always the same (especially on games between SF derivatives) Now the problem is the total number of games to have reliables ranking and ELO. While most ratings lists test them choosing only a few number of opponents, I'm trying to test togheter all TOP engines 3100-3700 ELO, but it takes a lot of time playing only 1 game every +- 10 minutes... Others are playing multiple games together each with (also mixed ) 1-8 CPUs matches on powerful Ryzen 9 or Core I9 PCs, but I think that this leads to not reliable results, too... Very difficult to choose the best method

[AlexChess]

Currently on Playchess:

Thank you Eduard

[Eduard]

My Kayra.abk (ZIP) for Arena GUI.

I don't know the best book settings, arena experts should be able to find that out, thanks!

Download:
https://filehorst.de/d/erzEgGDw

Book depth = 80 halfmoves

[tcusr]

Download:
https://filehorst.de/d/egFrDjsy

THANK YOU ! SUPER !

Using the .pgn Kayra matches collection you can made (easy) an opening book in .abk format under Arena GUI. Here is a short tutorial:

https://www.chess2u.com/t4215-how-to-ma ... p-tutorial

This book can be used like GUI book for all engines in matches/tournaments in Arena GUI !

I'm wondering why, if some original authors here know so well Stockfish code, their engine Is still 300 ELO worse, while with (supposed) random changes Keyra 1.0 v6 is so strong according to most testers ...Mehmet and Sylwy you are welcome on BanksiaGui forum to test all SF derivatives that you likes, skipping boring critics.
https://banksiagui.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=19

Best regards, Alex

non sei un programmatore vero?

[Sylwy]

PS: the result of my new test on Sunday. I'm invited to the largest festival of traditional carols in southern Moldova. Last year it was canceled by covid ..... this year no one can stop it .....

No one, but maybe some Omigron clones. And FYI, Omikron clones aren't SF clones you could test

+1 (for the largest festival of traditional carols in southern Moldova )

+10............. THANK YOU !.........0

[Sylwy]

My Kayra.abk (ZIP) for Arena GUI.

I don't know the best book settings, arena experts should be able to find that out, thanks!

Download:
https://filehorst.de/d/erzEgGDw

Book depth = 80 halfmoves

WOW ! FINE ! THANK YOU, AGAIN !