Rebel 14

[Steve Maughan]

Thanks Ed — it looks like a fun engine!

[Rebel]

I'm happy with this release but there are a few things I don't understand.

1. Was there ever a Rebel 13? If not, why was it skipped?

Yes and no see - http://rebel13.nl/rebel13/rebel%2013.html

2. Is what you have done the same what Albert Silver did with Fat Fritz 2, that is, take the search of an other engine and replace its evaluation with your own?

Brrrr.... what a comparison, which engine did Albert use, Fritz, Stockfish? I used my own and the discount is 500%.

[Gabor Szots]

2. Is what you have done the same what Albert Silver did with Fat Fritz 2, that is, take the search of an other engine and replace its evaluation with your own?

Brrrr.... what a comparison, which engine did Albert use, Fritz, Stockfish? I used my own and the discount is 500%.

What am I missing? Don't you write you have taken Fruit 2.1 as your starting point and later replaced its evaluation with that of Benjamin? I thought the search of Fruit has been kept.

[AlexChess]

Thank you Ed !!!

Best regards,
Alex

[hafni]

Congrats for the new release.

Best regards

[Rebel]

2. Is what you have done the same what Albert Silver did with Fat Fritz 2, that is, take the search of an other engine and replace its evaluation with your own?

Brrrr.... what a comparison, which engine did Albert use, Fritz, Stockfish? I used my own and the discount is 500%.

What am I missing? Don't you write you have taken Fruit 2.1 as your starting point and later replaced its evaluation with that of Benjamin? I thought the search of Fruit has been kept.

Yep, that's what the page states.

[Wilson]

I've received a private message:

Are you a seer?

because of the "Is Rebel a derivative?" thread I opened months ago but I meant "ProDeo" and not "Rebel" that time

and guess what, you really made Rebel a derivative engine!

so Rebel 14 is:
Fruit 2.1 +
Pawel Koziol's improved Fruit search +
Chris Witington's nnue probing code +
nnue net based on Benjamin's games

you have not written what trainer was used
you have developed your own trainer? has Chris Wittington developed a trainer? was nodchip/stockfish pytorch trainer used?

if the latter then, just like Andrew would say, "boring"

last time you asked me where was my sense of humor
I hope you have not lost yours

[CMCanavessi]

Does it play FRC?

[dkappe]

you have not written what trainer was used
you have developed your own trainer? has Chris Wittington developed a trainer? was nodchip/stockfish pytorch trainer used?

if the latter then, just like Andrew would say, "boring"

You’re right. The search and the trainer are boring. The net is the interesting part.

[JohnW]

Anyone try this in the Arena gui? I can't get the engine to make a move. Seems to work fine in Fritz 17 though..