Carlsen withdrawal after loss to Niemann

[Wilhelm]

Boo hoo. I lost. He must have cheated.

Hmm, I hope we didn't get a new Fisher...

So the question is whether Carlsen is the new "Fischer" or whether Niemann is the new "Fisher"! I really don't know.

what a story - ...and yes, I mean Fischer

[colette]

Niemann is rated 2632 at FIDE blitz. Two 2600+ performances at 3+2 blitz in December 2021:
https://ratings.fide.com/calculations.p ... 1&rating=2
I can't really imagine cheating at 3+2 blitz OTB. So I think it's fair to say he can play at a ~2600 level by himself, if nothing else.

[reflectionofpower]

To show you where Carlsen's head is at. First he did not defend his WC title. Then he loses to a player almost 200 ELO points lower than him. Then I see a video either before or after this game with saying, "I have not been motivated for a long time."

In the words of Pat Summitt, "It's harder to stay on top than it is to make the climb, Continue to seek new goals."

What does Carlsen have to strive for? He has been doing this since he was a young child. He has proven his supremacy among his peers and has been the best at it for years. When you are hungry the drive is there because you really want it deep inside but with Carlsen he has accomplished all he could do so now what does he do?

[dkappe]

In the words of Pat Summitt, "It's harder to stay on top than it is to make the climb, Continue to seek new goals."

I thought you were going to go with “survive and advance,” or “Offense sells tickets, defense wins games and rebounding wins championships.” But I guess your quote is more appropriate.

[Robert Flesher]

Something is off:

Or as my dearly departed friend used to say, "Something in the milk ain't clean".

+1

[CornfedForever]

So I know someone post in his defense this quote about Hans by what might be todays premier trainer about Hans:

"I was astonished by his memory. I was astonished by his intuition. Both were off the charts for what I have seen training Shankland, Gelfand, other 2600+, and a few 2700s." - GM Jacob Aagaard

[dkappe]

So I know someone post in his defense this quote about Hans by what might be todays premier trainer about Hans:

"I was astonished by his memory. I was astonished by his intuition. Both were off the charts for what I have seen training Shankland, Gelfand, other 2600+, and a few 2700s." - GM Jacob Aagaard

An antidote to gossip girl Nakamura.

[towforce]

While it's easy to think of ways in which Niemann could have cheated, on reflection, I feel that the evidence isn't strong enough to make that accusation in this case.

I am happy with people on this forum discussing the evidence and the technical ways it could be done (there are plenty), but it seems to me that the evidence isn't strong enough for GMs and officials to start saying things in public.

On the basis of what I've read, if I was a juror, I think I would feel obliged to say "not guilty", because the evidence isn't strong enough. However, if the question was, "Would a GM be able to cheat at slow time controls if they chose to do so?", my answer would be, "Absolutely yes!"

[Chessqueen]

While it's easy to think of ways in which Niemann could have cheated, on reflection, I feel that the evidence isn't strong enough to make that accusation in this case.

I am happy with people on this forum discussing the evidence and the technical ways it could be done (there are plenty), but it seems to me that the evidence isn't strong enough for GMs and officials to start saying things in public.

On the basis of what I've read, if I was a juror, I think I would feel obliged to say "not guilty", because the evidence isn't strong enough. However, if the question was, "Would a GM be able to cheat at slow time controls if they chose to do so?", my answer would be, "Absolutely yes!"

C A S E--C L O S E !

[Chessqueen]

While it's easy to think of ways in which Niemann could have cheated, on reflection, I feel that the evidence isn't strong enough to make that accusation in this case.

I am happy with people on this forum discussing the evidence and the technical ways it could be done (there are plenty), but it seems to me that the evidence isn't strong enough for GMs and officials to start saying things in public.

On the basis of what I've read, if I was a juror, I think I would feel obliged to say "not guilty", because the evidence isn't strong enough. However, if the question was, "Would a GM be able to cheat at slow time controls if they chose to do so?", my answer would be, "Absolutely yes!"

C A S E--C L O S E !, You are a great Judge