I am using window 10 and it does not work on my computer with 128 GB of RamDariusz wrote: ↑Sun Jan 15, 2023 1:45 pm wget https://github.com/vshcherbyna/igel/rel ... 2-51ba2968 -O ./network_file
--2023-01-15 13:44:37-- https://github.com/vshcherbyna/igel/rel ... 2-51ba2968
Translacja github.com (github.com)... 140.82.121.4
Łączenie się z github.com (github.com)|140.82.121.4|:443... połączono.
Żądanie HTTP wysłano, oczekiwanie na odpowiedź... 404 Not Found
2023-01-15 13:44:38 BŁĄD 404: Not Found.
Can you fix this? Thanks.
Introducing Igel chess engine
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Igel 3.4.0 at https://github.com/vshcherbyna/igel/releases/tag/3.4.0 (official executable binaries for Windows and IGN-3 net).
Hello there,
I am really sorry to disrupt the testing community having released Igel 3.3.0 just 2 weeks ago, but ... When debugging some unrelated issue I discovered a really serious bug in Igel's handling of nnue accumulator for null moves. This bug is present since August 2020 and results in Igel having wrong evaluations which is especially noticible in long time control in early and mid games when nnue eval is dominant compared to lazy (HCE) eval.
When the fix was applied to master branch (Igel 3.3.0) I saw a massive ~25 elo increase at LTC: http://chess.grantnet.us/test/31014/.
When I applied this fix to my dev version (upcoming Igel 3.4.0) which features fully NNUE eval I saw huge elo gains ranging from 75 to 90 elo in LTC against Igel 3.3.0: http://chess.grantnet.us/test/31024/
I obviously see a valid reason to interrupt my dev cycle and release whatever Igel state I currently have even though it may not feature the strongest Igel network released in 3.4.0 (HalfKav2_hm).
Disclaimer: Keep in mind that these are indicative numbers and elo gain against other engines may vary.
Igel 3.4.0 is yet another milestone in Igel's development as I removed all HCE code and the eval is purely NNUE.
What's new:
- fixing major bug in accumulator handling for null moves
- avoid heap objects (std::vector) in search function to reduce heap fragementation
- switching to pure nnue evaluation
- new network architecture HalfKav2_hm
- new network ign-3-debc71a4
Regression run against Igel 3.3.0 on Long Time Control (60+0.6)
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ELO | 75.10 +- 5.38 (95%)
CONF | 60.0+0.60s Threads=1 Hash=64MB
GAMES | N: 8480 W: 3133 L: 1328 D: 4019-
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Hi Voffka,
Any signs of neon for a Raspberry Pi compile.
Al
Any signs of neon for a Raspberry Pi compile.
Al
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It's very nice to find such bugs! Congratulations! 
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How much does Igel 3.40 costvoffka wrote: ↑Mon Jan 30, 2023 9:38 pm
Igel 3.4.0 at https://github.com/vshcherbyna/igel/releases/tag/3.4.0 (official executable binaries for Windows and IGN-3 net).
Hello there,
I am really sorry to disrupt the testing community having released Igel 3.3.0 just 2 weeks ago, but ... When debugging some unrelated issue I discovered a really serious bug in Igel's handling of nnue accumulator for null moves. This bug is present since August 2020 and results in Igel having wrong evaluations which is especially noticible in long time control in early and mid games when nnue eval is dominant compared to lazy (HCE) eval.
When the fix was applied to master branch (Igel 3.3.0) I saw a massive ~25 elo increase at LTC: http://chess.grantnet.us/test/31014/.
When I applied this fix to my dev version (upcoming Igel 3.4.0) which features fully NNUE eval I saw huge elo gains ranging from 75 to 90 elo in LTC against Igel 3.3.0: http://chess.grantnet.us/test/31024/
I obviously see a valid reason to interrupt my dev cycle and release whatever Igel state I currently have even though it may not feature the strongest Igel network released in 3.4.0 (HalfKav2_hm).
Disclaimer: Keep in mind that these are indicative numbers and elo gain against other engines may vary.
Igel 3.4.0 is yet another milestone in Igel's development as I removed all HCE code and the eval is purely NNUE.
What's new:
- fixing major bug in accumulator handling for null moves
- avoid heap objects (std::vector) in search function to reduce heap fragmentation
- switching to pure nnue evaluation
- new network architecture HalfKav2_hm
- new network ign-3-debc71a4
Regression run against Igel 3.3.0 on Long Time Control (60+0.6)
Code: Select all
ELO | 75.10 +- 5.38 (95%) CONF | 60.0+0.60s Threads=1 Hash=64MB GAMES | N: 8480 W: 3133 L: 1328 D: 4019
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Hi Chessqueen,
Igel is a free and open source project. Anyone can use it for free.
Some people help to support Igel development (mainly data generation) by donating via PayPal. I appreciate any help to support Igel, and the details are on the bottom page at project page - https://github.com/vshcherbyna/igel
Igel is a free and open source project. Anyone can use it for free.
Some people help to support Igel development (mainly data generation) by donating via PayPal. I appreciate any help to support Igel, and the details are on the bottom page at project page - https://github.com/vshcherbyna/igel
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Hi Scally,
I'd like to make sure I try various improvement ideas for network architecture and accumulator performance and once that part of the code stabilizes I will look into adding support for neon. it is going to be expensive to add it now as I cannot easily debug ARM and that part of the code is under active development.
In the end it is a matter of priorities and I don't have that much free time to work on several big topics in Igel in parallel. I'd like to add FRC support next when I have time.
I have it on my todo list, but I am not actively working towards it.
I'd like to make sure I try various improvement ideas for network architecture and accumulator performance and once that part of the code stabilizes I will look into adding support for neon. it is going to be expensive to add it now as I cannot easily debug ARM and that part of the code is under active development.
In the end it is a matter of priorities and I don't have that much free time to work on several big topics in Igel in parallel. I'd like to add FRC support next when I have time.
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For some reason Igel does not work for me with arena3.5.1
I have not the same problem with other gui's.
I wonder if the problem is the fact that igel quit after getting some command that it does not understand unlike other engines like stockfish that respond with an error message but the engine does not stop.
I have not the same problem with other gui's.
I wonder if the problem is the fact that igel quit after getting some command that it does not understand unlike other engines like stockfish that respond with an error message but the engine does not stop.
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Hi Uri,
Make sure you set the communication protocol type explicitely to UCI instead of Autodetect.Uri Blass wrote: ↑Tue Jan 31, 2023 6:32 pm For some reason Igel does not work for me with arena3.5.1
I have not the same problem with other gui's.
I wonder if the problem is the fact that igel quit after getting some command that it does not understand unlike other engines like stockfish that respond with an error message but the engine does not stop.
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Chessqueen
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I did and it still does not work under Arena 3.5.1voffka wrote: ↑Tue Jan 31, 2023 6:43 pm Hi Uri,
Make sure you set the communication protocol type explicitely to UCI instead of Autodetect.Uri Blass wrote: ↑Tue Jan 31, 2023 6:32 pm For some reason Igel does not work for me with arena3.5.1
I have not the same problem with other gui's.
I wonder if the problem is the fact that igel quit after getting some command that it does not understand unlike other engines like stockfish that respond with an error message but the engine does not stop.