Chess is only is for very rich people.
I'm about to become homeless in a few days and sleep on the street with no quality food to eat so of course people like me can't afford a new computer or an expensive graphics card.
Chess Engine Leptir
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Re: Chess Engine Leptir
Ryzen 3900X
3 cores/engine 7500 kns in Startposition
GUI Powerfritz 18
Hash 128 MB
all 3456men Syzygy GUI and Engine
Ponder ON
Timecontrol 120s + 0.1s
EN-Tournament (100 Variants) Download (PGN and CBH): https://pixeldrain.com/u/L8P38FTU
Match Charisma 180323 vs SF dev 140323 finished. Final standing:

Download all games in PGN:
https://pixeldrain.com/u/vWYboXKs
Charisma 180323 seems to be at least as strong as SF developer. In my position test, Charisma cut a better figure. The network used seems to be good. I tested with both networks and the network used was better in position tests. And now this network has also won the match. Not bad. I would also like to point out that Charisma has a different search than Stockfish dev, it's not just a different network.
3 cores/engine 7500 kns in Startposition
GUI Powerfritz 18
Hash 128 MB
all 3456men Syzygy GUI and Engine
Ponder ON
Timecontrol 120s + 0.1s
EN-Tournament (100 Variants) Download (PGN and CBH): https://pixeldrain.com/u/L8P38FTU
Match Charisma 180323 vs SF dev 140323 finished. Final standing:

Download all games in PGN:
https://pixeldrain.com/u/vWYboXKs
Charisma 180323 seems to be at least as strong as SF developer. In my position test, Charisma cut a better figure. The network used seems to be good. I tested with both networks and the network used was better in position tests. And now this network has also won the match. Not bad. I would also like to point out that Charisma has a different search than Stockfish dev, it's not just a different network.
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Re: Chess Engine Leptir
It was just one match that Stockfish lost. Happens every now and then.
The time control was different from Superbullet Tuning.
It was played on 3 cores and not on one core.
It was played with Ponder ON, that's the tournament setting on all servers!
The openings are the ones we play on the servers.
I would like to see something like that.
The time control was different from Superbullet Tuning.
It was played on 3 cores and not on one core.
It was played with Ponder ON, that's the tournament setting on all servers!
The openings are the ones we play on the servers.
I would like to see something like that.
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Re: Chess Engine Leptir
Every day, today, the same picture on PlayChess:

I have set all Proteus SF main accounts and test accounts to ignore. Me and my friends, we fight fairly for points, just like any other honest player. Nevertheless, we have to endure every day that some make themselves important by only defeating their own test accounts like yesterday, and then brag about supposedly having the best engine.


Those are the top two. They only win against their own test accounts, they cannot win against other opponents. They are too weak for that, there are only draws or defeats.
ProteusSF test accounts:
Fourcores, ethereal-14-00, proteussf, chesscombot, and some more.

I have set all Proteus SF main accounts and test accounts to ignore. Me and my friends, we fight fairly for points, just like any other honest player. Nevertheless, we have to endure every day that some make themselves important by only defeating their own test accounts like yesterday, and then brag about supposedly having the best engine.


Those are the top two. They only win against their own test accounts, they cannot win against other opponents. They are too weak for that, there are only draws or defeats.
ProteusSF test accounts:
Fourcores, ethereal-14-00, proteussf, chesscombot, and some more.
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Re: Chess Engine Leptir
It's defInitely NOT accurate. If you want meaningful comparative data go to SPCC, CEGT or CCRLjdart wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 3:16 pm I find it ridiculous that operators of online computer accounts care about getting and keeping a high rating.
For example, there's a high-rated account now on FICS that will not play accounts rated over 2600. It only plays lower rated accounts.
The ratings are meaningless, because accounts are playing against a small pool of players, and can be manipulated by restricting that pool even further. They also are not comparable to FIDE ratings or comparable across servers. It's just a number.

You cannot simply compare a 60$ Raspberry-P3 results with a 1000$ ThreadRipper 128 threads on the same poll. Plus there are frequent crashes and disconnections, at least with my poor hardware and I lose a lot of points.
Since no Stockfish derivative is included on above lists, most of them are on Playchess, but I'm moving to Lichess.org that is better.
I personally use it ONLY for MY test benchmarks relative to MY 3 engines on 2 systems: VIRTUAL 4 cores PC under Parallels 17 Mac M1 <=2 MN/s and Core I5 PC both with similar performances. I test all UCI settings: Bruteforce, MCTS, Positional, Tactical, Contempt and their ELO goes continually up and down. Since also my brothers and cousins play chess, we have multiple accounts. DOT. Instead, I never play with ProteusSF betatesters like mortal_Sin, Caxalinskaya and Larisa1970, so their ELO is absolutely "reliable" if you don't consider that cannot be trusted by default

They are stuck on top not playing 5 0 only because these days I'm playing 60 15 challenges that are very rare but much more meaningful.
Who didn't likes that, can simply ignore me ...There is and easy to set option. But 99% of users there like to play with my engines anyway.
Chess engines and dedicated chess computers fan since 1981
macOS Sequoia 16GB-512GB, Windows 11 & Ubuntu ARM64.
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Re: Chess Engine Leptir
Good boy! Sunrise first again on this afternoon tournament against all best engines even with the worse hardware (2014 Core I5 4 cores) against ThreadRipper 128 threads, Ryzen & Core i7 boosted engines

Due to kind requests, I will stop my 60 15 games only to partecipe to Damir tournaments where nobody can ignore other players
All games for my personal analyser

Due to kind requests, I will stop my 60 15 games only to partecipe to Damir tournaments where nobody can ignore other players



All games for my personal analyser
Chess engines and dedicated chess computers fan since 1981
macOS Sequoia 16GB-512GB, Windows 11 & Ubuntu ARM64.
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Re: Chess Engine Leptir
Yes and? My engine has won more tournaments than yours. Yesterday ProteusSF was bottom of the table in tournament. You pick individual results, great.
Your two main accounts are cheaters. I have pointed this out several times here. If I'm wrong, just say it's wrong. But you can't. You betray all honest players on PlayChess: me and my friends too. We all pay money to play fair games, but you don't play fair. You are currently the only one cheating on the server in engine room. Sad! To be honest, I expected a different character from you than I had met you last year.
Can you only answer with stupid smilies? To justify yourself you only ever post smiles like 5 year old kids do. Are you a child?
Your two main accounts are cheaters. I have pointed this out several times here. If I'm wrong, just say it's wrong. But you can't. You betray all honest players on PlayChess: me and my friends too. We all pay money to play fair games, but you don't play fair. You are currently the only one cheating on the server in engine room. Sad! To be honest, I expected a different character from you than I had met you last year.
Can you only answer with stupid smilies? To justify yourself you only ever post smiles like 5 year old kids do. Are you a child?
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Re: Chess Engine Leptir
New outfit for the ProteusSF test accounts. So that cheating is not obvious, the test accounts have changed the message (Personal Information):


The cheating can now covertly, and no longer verifiably, continue. And without a real name in the info. The accounts prefer to remain anonymous. I understand that. And one more thing: All accounts that do not specify a legitimate e-mail address for the privider of the server (only visible to the provider) cannot leave the rank Pawn (next is Knight etc).


The cheating can now covertly, and no longer verifiably, continue. And without a real name in the info. The accounts prefer to remain anonymous. I understand that. And one more thing: All accounts that do not specify a legitimate e-mail address for the privider of the server (only visible to the provider) cannot leave the rank Pawn (next is Knight etc).