Chessqueen wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2023 12:50 pm
GM Niemann is NOT the only chess Player that cheated before, GM Gary Kasparov cheated playing versus 17 years old Judit Polgar, but he was being recorded , here is the Youtube Video when Gary Moved his Knight to a different and illegal square ==>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6xxZTNOF_c
OK, I got it. I forgot we are in a community with programmers and the special interest in AI. You are a hoax, a Chatbot. A good one, but repeating the same irrelevant phrases again and again, and ignoring the posts from a day ago discovered you.
OK, well done! But now, tell us who created you
Alexander Schmidt wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2023 5:10 pm
if Kasparov once let go of a knight is of no interest to anyone here.
Collingwood wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 7:51 amNiemann lost with the White pieces against a 2442-elo IM. I don't know but would like to know how common it is for a (non-cheating) 2700+ GM to lose with White against a sub-2450 IM.
In the Uralsk Open, Niemann lost with the Black pieces against a 2366-elo FM.
(True, he also had wins against 2602- and 2603-elo GMs.)
In the World Junior Champs (which most of the star juniors skipped) currently being played, Niemann lost with the White pieces against 13-year old 2480-elo IM Andy Woodward.
He does seem to lose far more frequently to opponents he vastly outrates than other players. (It seems to happen at least once a tournament.) Therefore it would not be surprising if his elo continues to drop. (It's currently 2667.)
If Hans Niemann is rich and I mean really rich then it's quite possible that he bought and read many many chess books written by top players and if this is really true then I'm not surprised that he can beat Magnus Carlsen.
Uri wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2023 6:56 pm
If Hans Niemann is rich and I mean really rich then it's quite possible that he bought and read many many chess books written by top players and if this is really true then I'm not surprised that he can beat Magnus Carlsen.
I have heard many a top young player say that they do not read chess books. Heck, many who write them are just out to do what other top players do with their IM/GM titles...make a buck or two. Effort is what makes a top player, not reading books or watching videos.
Uri wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2023 6:56 pm
If Hans Niemann is rich and I mean really rich then it's quite possible that he bought and read many many chess books written by top players and if this is really true then I'm not surprised that he can beat Magnus Carlsen.
I have heard many a top young player say that they do not read chess books. Heck, many who write them are just out to do what other top players do with their IM/GM titles...make a buck or two. Effort is what makes a top player, not reading books or watching videos.
The question is what do you mean by chess books.
There is a lot of material that you can buy in order to train that also include videos in chessable.
It is not a phsyical book but it has many chess positions to train about them.
The main problem of most chess players is that they have not the talent to memorize a lot of material.
Uri wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2023 6:56 pm
If Hans Niemann is rich and I mean really rich then it's quite possible that he bought and read many many chess books written by top players and if this is really true then I'm not surprised that he can beat Magnus Carlsen.
I have heard many a top young player say that they do not read chess books. Heck, many who write them are just out to do what other top players do with their IM/GM titles...make a buck or two. Effort is what makes a top player, not reading books or watching videos.
The question is what do you mean by chess books.
There is a lot of material that you can buy in order to train that also include videos in chessable.
It is not a phsyical book but it has many chess positions to train about them.
The main problem of most chess players is that they have not the talent to memorize a lot of material.
That is certainly true - books these day included 'e-books' or 'videos', etc. They have been a dime a dozen for decades now in one form or another.
We will probably have to 'agree to disagree' on this one - or at least one point. I don't think "The main problem of most chess players is that they have not the talent to memorize a lot of chess material"...but rather that in regards to getting "really good" (and by that I am thinking IM/GM/SuperGM) 'most' young players don't lack for material...they lack focus/motivation and work ethic...'effort' is how I described that earlier.
Money can come into play of course...take the family of Mishra, it was insane what they spent on that boy. But I think that is more an exception than anything else.
Collingwood wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 7:51 amNiemann lost with the White pieces against a 2442-elo IM.
Collingwood wrote: ↑Mon Aug 21, 2023 11:18 am
In the Uralsk Open, Niemann lost with the Black pieces against a 2366-elo FM.
(True, he also had wins against 2602- and 2603-elo GMs.)
Collingwood wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2023 10:54 am
In the World Junior Champs (which most of the star juniors skipped) currently being played, Niemann lost with the White pieces against 13-year old 2480-elo IM Andy Woodward.
In the last round, Niemann lost with the White pieces against Nesterov.
Nesterov is a 2575-elo GM, so perhaps this loss is much less noteworthy than the others. But it does add to the feeling that perhaps Niemann's playing strength is closer to 2600 elo than 2700.
