Amazing results of LeelaKnightOdds-Dev

[Uri Blass]

I suspect that even I have chances to do better than losing 33.5-1.5 against LeelaQueenOdds with black at 1+1

I lost against it 8.5-0.5 at 3+2 after the upgrade and later lost 9.5-2.5 at 5+3 but I believe I can do clearly better than it and my problem was lack of experience.

I do not want to try 1+1 against Leela Queen odds because it means that even if I get 5% against it I lose rating points and I wonder if playing against the piece odds is basically the same except the fact that games are unrated or maybe the piece odds does not play or play in a different way than the queen odds bot.

Edit:I see the piece oddalready won a queen odds game with white

https://lichess.org/3lVxjv75

I find that I need a few games to get used to playing against Leela at queen odds, but then I can win nearly every game (11.5 out of the last 12, the draw relating to stalemate tricks) with a ten second increment (and the required one minute basetime). I don't repeat openings or win by memory, but I learn how to avoid tricks, how to simplify, how to stay out of danger, and even when things go badly I can usually find a way to return material and reach a won endgame. This might even be enough for top place on the list, we'll see. I think this is actually useful experience for regular chess (at least quick chess), it's better than playing Carlsen in blitz (with or without odds). Now that I've shown the way, I expect others to pass me, I'm sure that many GMs and some IMs and FMs can run up the score with 5 seconds increment (as Orichess88 has done at 2' plus 3") and pass me that way. Maybe with enough practice I could start to score heavily with just 5 seconds increment, but I rather doubt it. As for the 1'1" series, I'm sure the GM could make many more draws if that was his goal, but most GMs will have the attitude that they "should" win at queen odds, even in bullet, and so will go all out to win every game, with the result we observed. As for the piece odds bot, currently it uses the queen odds net and book, although that could change if a net is trained for other large odds. My experience so far with it is that at 5'3", I am a big favorite at rook plus knight, but a big underdog at two minor pieces. Assuming that I am roughly at FM level now at age 77, this suggests that only players of IM level (regardless of actual title) or better can score well at 5'3" with odds of two minor pieces. That sounds about right to me.

No place for
Without a doubt, LeelaQueenOdds is an extraordinary machine that gives us a lot of joy and fun playing chess. The achievements of LeelaQueenOdds are incredible to me, they are a fantasy, I love watching LeelaQueenOdds' games, it features high-level players, I marvel at watching the bullet games of 1 minute without increment and 1+1, they are true works of art, LeelaQueenOdds It enhances the dynamics and power of the stones exponentially and geometrically to levels never seen before.

...more and more powerful players are seen against LeelaQueenOdds... on this occasion it is a super player with 3168 bulet elo in Lichess who falls at the feet of the Queen.

[pgn][Event "Casual bullet game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/pkXvKRYN"]
[Date "2024.12.03"]
[White "LeelaQueenOdds"]
[Black "catask"]
[Result "1-0"]
[UTCDate "2024.12.03"]
[UTCTime "19:36:07"]
[WhiteElo "2000"]
[BlackElo "3168"]
[WhiteTitle "BOT"]
[Variant "From Position"]
[TimeControl "60+0"]
[ECO "?"]
[Opening "?"]
[Termination "Normal"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNB1KBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[Annotator "lichess.org"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. g4 g6 3. h4 Nxg4 4. h5 Nf6 5. hxg6 fxg6 6. Nc3 Bg7 7. e4 d6 8. Bg5 h6 9. Bd2 c6 10. O-O-O b5 11. Bd3 b4 12. Nce2 Ba6 13. e5 dxe5 14. Bxg6+ Kf8 15. dxe5 Nd5 16. Nd4 Qc8 17. Bf5 Qe8 18. Ne6+ Kg8 19. Nf3 { Black resigns. } 1-0[/pgn]

Yes, he scored just one draw in six 1'0" bullet games with LeelaQueenOdds. I happen to know who he is, but I can't reveal his identity, other than to say that he is indeed a very strong GM on the top fifty FIDE classical rating list. It is becoming pretty obvious that no human, not even Magnus or Hikaru, would win a 1'0" bullet match from LeelaQueenOdds (Leela playing White of course). You might actually have a better percent score than anyone in the world so far at 1'0" games, though only your games where you played Black can count for such a comparison as that is how almost all of these games have been played. Anyone trying to check this out should search for games from Nov 2 on, since that is the day the Leela queen odds net went live.

I think that the conclusion that no human can win bullet 1'0 match from LeelaQueenOdds when Leela has white has no basis.
You cannot get conclusions based on fide rating or even bullet rating because being better in bullet in queen odd conditions is not equivalent to being better in bullet.

I see no reason to assume that magnus or hikaru are the best in these conditions.

[Father]

I suspect that even I have chances to do better than losing 33.5-1.5 against LeelaQueenOdds with black at 1+1

I lost against it 8.5-0.5 at 3+2 after the upgrade and later lost 9.5-2.5 at 5+3 but I believe I can do clearly better than it and my problem was lack of experience.

I do not want to try 1+1 against Leela Queen odds because it means that even if I get 5% against it I lose rating points and I wonder if playing against the piece odds is basically the same except the fact that games are unrated or maybe the piece odds does not play or play in a different way than the queen odds bot.

Edit:I see the piece oddalready won a queen odds game with white

https://lichess.org/3lVxjv75

I find that I need a few games to get used to playing against Leela at queen odds, but then I can win nearly every game (11.5 out of the last 12, the draw relating to stalemate tricks) with a ten second increment (and the required one minute basetime). I don't repeat openings or win by memory, but I learn how to avoid tricks, how to simplify, how to stay out of danger, and even when things go badly I can usually find a way to return material and reach a won endgame. This might even be enough for top place on the list, we'll see. I think this is actually useful experience for regular chess (at least quick chess), it's better than playing Carlsen in blitz (with or without odds). Now that I've shown the way, I expect others to pass me, I'm sure that many GMs and some IMs and FMs can run up the score with 5 seconds increment (as Orichess88 has done at 2' plus 3") and pass me that way. Maybe with enough practice I could start to score heavily with just 5 seconds increment, but I rather doubt it. As for the 1'1" series, I'm sure the GM could make many more draws if that was his goal, but most GMs will have the attitude that they "should" win at queen odds, even in bullet, and so will go all out to win every game, with the result we observed. As for the piece odds bot, currently it uses the queen odds net and book, although that could change if a net is trained for other large odds. My experience so far with it is that at 5'3", I am a big favorite at rook plus knight, but a big underdog at two minor pieces. Assuming that I am roughly at FM level now at age 77, this suggests that only players of IM level (regardless of actual title) or better can score well at 5'3" with odds of two minor pieces. That sounds about right to me.

No place for
Without a doubt, LeelaQueenOdds is an extraordinary machine that gives us a lot of joy and fun playing chess. The achievements of LeelaQueenOdds are incredible to me, they are a fantasy, I love watching LeelaQueenOdds' games, it features high-level players, I marvel at watching the bullet games of 1 minute without increment and 1+1, they are true works of art, LeelaQueenOdds It enhances the dynamics and power of the stones exponentially and geometrically to levels never seen before.

...more and more powerful players are seen against LeelaQueenOdds... on this occasion it is a super player with 3168 bulet elo in Lichess who falls at the feet of the Queen.

[pgn][Event "Casual bullet game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/pkXvKRYN"]
[Date "2024.12.03"]
[White "LeelaQueenOdds"]
[Black "catask"]
[Result "1-0"]
[UTCDate "2024.12.03"]
[UTCTime "19:36:07"]
[WhiteElo "2000"]
[BlackElo "3168"]
[WhiteTitle "BOT"]
[Variant "From Position"]
[TimeControl "60+0"]
[ECO "?"]
[Opening "?"]
[Termination "Normal"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNB1KBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[Annotator "lichess.org"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. g4 g6 3. h4 Nxg4 4. h5 Nf6 5. hxg6 fxg6 6. Nc3 Bg7 7. e4 d6 8. Bg5 h6 9. Bd2 c6 10. O-O-O b5 11. Bd3 b4 12. Nce2 Ba6 13. e5 dxe5 14. Bxg6+ Kf8 15. dxe5 Nd5 16. Nd4 Qc8 17. Bf5 Qe8 18. Ne6+ Kg8 19. Nf3 { Black resigns. } 1-0[/pgn]

Yes, he scored just one draw in six 1'0" bullet games with LeelaQueenOdds. I happen to know who he is, but I can't reveal his identity, other than to say that he is indeed a very strong GM on the top fifty FIDE classical rating list. It is becoming pretty obvious that no human, not even Magnus or Hikaru, would win a 1'0" bullet match from LeelaQueenOdds (Leela playing White of course). You might actually have a better percent score than anyone in the world so far at 1'0" games, though only your games where you played Black can count for such a comparison as that is how almost all of these games have been played. Anyone trying to check this out should search for games from Nov 2 on, since that is the day the Leela queen odds net went live.

Mr. Larry Kaufman. Thank you for your message. Can you even imagine what a "simple computer street fighter" like me may be feeling in the heart, fighting alongside the best in the world at my side? I can explain it: Today I realized that the thousands of hours I have spent fighting computers in the last 40 years of my life were not in vain. I always dreamed of being able to play against a GM, but I never had the opportunity, so I spent my life replacing my dreams of being a champion, becoming a chess computer hunter. Today you have allowed me to compete, and I am forever grateful for that. Have you analyzed anything special in the history of my games? I had to wait 1551 bullet games until I could open a window. The window of "hope", I have beaten the computer in checkmate, in the last of my bullet games. I am waiting for the elos update, since I only have 1396 games accounted for. I know how to play against computers at all time control levels, both with white tiles and black tiles. I hope to continue... I just hope so. I know that everything will depend on the Will of my programmer. Maybe Nakamura, Carlen, and others from the world's elite, one day and I hope it will be soon, will give me the opportunity to be happy playing alongside them against chess computers. I simply ask you to "let me be", expose my playing style, my experience, my knowledge and my love for chess. Again Mr. Larry Kaufman: Thank you.

[Father]

I suspect that even I have chances to do better than losing 33.5-1.5 against LeelaQueenOdds with black at 1+1

I lost against it 8.5-0.5 at 3+2 after the upgrade and later lost 9.5-2.5 at 5+3 but I believe I can do clearly better than it and my problem was lack of experience.

I do not want to try 1+1 against Leela Queen odds because it means that even if I get 5% against it I lose rating points and I wonder if playing against the piece odds is basically the same except the fact that games are unrated or maybe the piece odds does not play or play in a different way than the queen odds bot.

Edit:I see the piece oddalready won a queen odds game with white

https://lichess.org/3lVxjv75

...The words that I am going to present below are not a concept, much less a scientific concept, they are my opinion: "No human being is in a position to win a bullet tournament 1-0 against LeelaQueenOdds by playing the human with the chips black."


I find that I need a few games to get used to playing against Leela at queen odds, but then I can win nearly every game (11.5 out of the last 12, the draw relating to stalemate tricks) with a ten second increment (and the required one minute basetime). I don't repeat openings or win by memory, but I learn how to avoid tricks, how to simplify, how to stay out of danger, and even when things go badly I can usually find a way to return material and reach a won endgame. This might even be enough for top place on the list, we'll see. I think this is actually useful experience for regular chess (at least quick chess), it's better than playing Carlsen in blitz (with or without odds). Now that I've shown the way, I expect others to pass me, I'm sure that many GMs and some IMs and FMs can run up the score with 5 seconds increment (as Orichess88 has done at 2' plus 3") and pass me that way. Maybe with enough practice I could start to score heavily with just 5 seconds increment, but I rather doubt it. As for the 1'1" series, I'm sure the GM could make many more draws if that was his goal, but most GMs will have the attitude that they "should" win at queen odds, even in bullet, and so will go all out to win every game, with the result we observed. As for the piece odds bot, currently it uses the queen odds net and book, although that could change if a net is trained for other large odds. My experience so far with it is that at 5'3", I am a big favorite at rook plus knight, but a big underdog at two minor pieces. Assuming that I am roughly at FM level now at age 77, this suggests that only players of IM level (regardless of actual title) or better can score well at 5'3" with odds of two minor pieces. That sounds about right to me.

No place for
Without a doubt, LeelaQueenOdds is an extraordinary machine that gives us a lot of joy and fun playing chess. The achievements of LeelaQueenOdds are incredible to me, they are a fantasy, I love watching LeelaQueenOdds' games, it features high-level players, I marvel at watching the bullet games of 1 minute without increment and 1+1, they are true works of art, LeelaQueenOdds It enhances the dynamics and power of the stones exponentially and geometrically to levels never seen before.

...more and more powerful players are seen against LeelaQueenOdds... on this occasion it is a super player with 3168 bulet elo in Lichess who falls at the feet of the Queen.

[pgn][Event "Casual bullet game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/pkXvKRYN"]
[Date "2024.12.03"]
[White "LeelaQueenOdds"]
[Black "catask"]
[Result "1-0"]
[UTCDate "2024.12.03"]
[UTCTime "19:36:07"]
[WhiteElo "2000"]
[BlackElo "3168"]
[WhiteTitle "BOT"]
[Variant "From Position"]
[TimeControl "60+0"]
[ECO "?"]
[Opening "?"]
[Termination "Normal"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNB1KBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[Annotator "lichess.org"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. g4 g6 3. h4 Nxg4 4. h5 Nf6 5. hxg6 fxg6 6. Nc3 Bg7 7. e4 d6 8. Bg5 h6 9. Bd2 c6 10. O-O-O b5 11. Bd3 b4 12. Nce2 Ba6 13. e5 dxe5 14. Bxg6+ Kf8 15. dxe5 Nd5 16. Nd4 Qc8 17. Bf5 Qe8 18. Ne6+ Kg8 19. Nf3 { Black resigns. } 1-0[/pgn]

Yes, he scored just one draw in six 1'0" bullet games with LeelaQueenOdds. I happen to know who he is, but I can't reveal his identity, other than to say that he is indeed a very strong GM on the top fifty FIDE classical rating list. It is becoming pretty obvious that no human, not even Magnus or Hikaru, would win a 1'0" bullet match from LeelaQueenOdds (Leela playing White of course). You might actually have a better percent score than anyone in the world so far at 1'0" games, though only your games where you played Black can count for such a comparison as that is how almost all of these games have been played. Anyone trying to check this out should search for games from Nov 2 on, since that is the day the Leela queen odds net went live.

I think that the conclusion that no human can win bullet 1'0 match from LeelaQueenOdds when Leela has white has no basis.
You cannot get conclusions based on fide rating or even bullet rating because being better in bullet in queen odd conditions is not equivalent to being better in bullet.

I see no reason to assume that magnus or hikaru are the best in these conditions.

[Father]

I suspect that even I have chances to do better than losing 33.5-1.5 against LeelaQueenOdds with black at 1+1

I lost against it 8.5-0.5 at 3+2 after the upgrade and later lost 9.5-2.5 at 5+3 but I believe I can do clearly better than it and my problem was lack of experience.

I do not want to try 1+1 against Leela Queen odds because it means that even if I get 5% against it I lose rating points and I wonder if playing against the piece odds is basically the same except the fact that games are unrated or maybe the piece odds does not play or play in a different way than the queen odds bot.

Edit:I see the piece oddalready won a queen odds game with white

https://lichess.org/3lVxjv75

I find that I need a few games to get used to playing against Leela at queen odds, but then I can win nearly every game (11.5 out of the last 12, the draw relating to stalemate tricks) with a ten second increment (and the required one minute basetime). I don't repeat openings or win by memory, but I learn how to avoid tricks, how to simplify, how to stay out of danger, and even when things go badly I can usually find a way to return material and reach a won endgame. This might even be enough for top place on the list, we'll see. I think this is actually useful experience for regular chess (at least quick chess), it's better than playing Carlsen in blitz (with or without odds). Now that I've shown the way, I expect others to pass me, I'm sure that many GMs and some IMs and FMs can run up the score with 5 seconds increment (as Orichess88 has done at 2' plus 3") and pass me that way. Maybe with enough practice I could start to score heavily with just 5 seconds increment, but I rather doubt it. As for the 1'1" series, I'm sure the GM could make many more draws if that was his goal, but most GMs will have the attitude that they "should" win at queen odds, even in bullet, and so will go all out to win every game, with the result we observed. As for the piece odds bot, currently it uses the queen odds net and book, although that could change if a net is trained for other large odds. My experience so far with it is that at 5'3", I am a big favorite at rook plus knight, but a big underdog at two minor pieces. Assuming that I am roughly at FM level now at age 77, this suggests that only players of IM level (regardless of actual title) or better can score well at 5'3" with odds of two minor pieces. That sounds about right to me.

No place for
Without a doubt, LeelaQueenOdds is an extraordinary machine that gives us a lot of joy and fun playing chess. The achievements of LeelaQueenOdds are incredible to me, they are a fantasy, I love watching LeelaQueenOdds' games, it features high-level players, I marvel at watching the bullet games of 1 minute without increment and 1+1, they are true works of art, LeelaQueenOdds It enhances the dynamics and power of the stones exponentially and geometrically to levels never seen before.

...more and more powerful players are seen against LeelaQueenOdds... on this occasion it is a super player with 3168 bulet elo in Lichess who falls at the feet of the Queen.

[pgn][Event "Casual bullet game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/pkXvKRYN"]
[Date "2024.12.03"]
[White "LeelaQueenOdds"]
[Black "catask"]
[Result "1-0"]
[UTCDate "2024.12.03"]
[UTCTime "19:36:07"]
[WhiteElo "2000"]
[BlackElo "3168"]
[WhiteTitle "BOT"]
[Variant "From Position"]
[TimeControl "60+0"]
[ECO "?"]
[Opening "?"]
[Termination "Normal"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNB1KBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[Annotator "lichess.org"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. g4 g6 3. h4 Nxg4 4. h5 Nf6 5. hxg6 fxg6 6. Nc3 Bg7 7. e4 d6 8. Bg5 h6 9. Bd2 c6 10. O-O-O b5 11. Bd3 b4 12. Nce2 Ba6 13. e5 dxe5 14. Bxg6+ Kf8 15. dxe5 Nd5 16. Nd4 Qc8 17. Bf5 Qe8 18. Ne6+ Kg8 19. Nf3 { Black resigns. } 1-0[/pgn]

Yes, he scored just one draw in six 1'0" bullet games with LeelaQueenOdds. I happen to know who he is, but I can't reveal his identity, other than to say that he is indeed a very strong GM on the top fifty FIDE classical rating list. It is becoming pretty obvious that no human, not even Magnus or Hikaru, would win a 1'0" bullet match from LeelaQueenOdds (Leela playing White of course). You might actually have a better percent score than anyone in the world so far at 1'0" games, though only your games where you played Black can count for such a comparison as that is how almost all of these games have been played. Anyone trying to check this out should search for games from Nov 2 on, since that is the day the Leela queen odds net went live.

I think that the conclusion that no human can win bullet 1'0 match from LeelaQueenOdds when Leela has white has no basis.
You cannot get conclusions based on fide rating or even bullet rating because being better in bullet in queen odd conditions is not equivalent to being better in bullet.

I see no reason to assume that magnus or hikaru are the best in these conditions.

...The words that I am going to present below are not a concept, much less a scientific concept, they are my opinion: "No human being is in a position to win a bullet tournament 1-0 against LeelaQueenOdds by playing the human with the chips black."

[Father]

I suspect that even I have chances to do better than losing 33.5-1.5 against LeelaQueenOdds with black at 1+1

I lost against it 8.5-0.5 at 3+2 after the upgrade and later lost 9.5-2.5 at 5+3 but I believe I can do clearly better than it and my problem was lack of experience.

I do not want to try 1+1 against Leela Queen odds because it means that even if I get 5% against it I lose rating points and I wonder if playing against the piece odds is basically the same except the fact that games are unrated or maybe the piece odds does not play or play in a different way than the queen odds bot.

Edit:I see the piece oddalready won a queen odds game with white

https://lichess.org/3lVxjv75

I find that I need a few games to get used to playing against Leela at queen odds, but then I can win nearly every game (11.5 out of the last 12, the draw relating to stalemate tricks) with a ten second increment (and the required one minute basetime). I don't repeat openings or win by memory, but I learn how to avoid tricks, how to simplify, how to stay out of danger, and even when things go badly I can usually find a way to return material and reach a won endgame. This might even be enough for top place on the list, we'll see. I think this is actually useful experience for regular chess (at least quick chess), it's better than playing Carlsen in blitz (with or without odds). Now that I've shown the way, I expect others to pass me, I'm sure that many GMs and some IMs and FMs can run up the score with 5 seconds increment (as Orichess88 has done at 2' plus 3") and pass me that way. Maybe with enough practice I could start to score heavily with just 5 seconds increment, but I rather doubt it. As for the 1'1" series, I'm sure the GM could make many more draws if that was his goal, but most GMs will have the attitude that they "should" win at queen odds, even in bullet, and so will go all out to win every game, with the result we observed. As for the piece odds bot, currently it uses the queen odds net and book, although that could change if a net is trained for other large odds. My experience so far with it is that at 5'3", I am a big favorite at rook plus knight, but a big underdog at two minor pieces. Assuming that I am roughly at FM level now at age 77, this suggests that only players of IM level (regardless of actual title) or better can score well at 5'3" with odds of two minor pieces. That sounds about right to me.

No place for
Without a doubt, LeelaQueenOdds is an extraordinary machine that gives us a lot of joy and fun playing chess. The achievements of LeelaQueenOdds are incredible to me, they are a fantasy, I love watching LeelaQueenOdds' games, it features high-level players, I marvel at watching the bullet games of 1 minute without increment and 1+1, they are true works of art, LeelaQueenOdds It enhances the dynamics and power of the stones exponentially and geometrically to levels never seen before.

...more and more powerful players are seen against LeelaQueenOdds... on this occasion it is a super player with 3168 bulet elo in Lichess who falls at the feet of the Queen.

[pgn][Event "Casual bullet game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/pkXvKRYN"]
[Date "2024.12.03"]
[White "LeelaQueenOdds"]
[Black "catask"]
[Result "1-0"]
[UTCDate "2024.12.03"]
[UTCTime "19:36:07"]
[WhiteElo "2000"]
[BlackElo "3168"]
[WhiteTitle "BOT"]
[Variant "From Position"]
[TimeControl "60+0"]
[ECO "?"]
[Opening "?"]
[Termination "Normal"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNB1KBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[Annotator "lichess.org"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. g4 g6 3. h4 Nxg4 4. h5 Nf6 5. hxg6 fxg6 6. Nc3 Bg7 7. e4 d6 8. Bg5 h6 9. Bd2 c6 10. O-O-O b5 11. Bd3 b4 12. Nce2 Ba6 13. e5 dxe5 14. Bxg6+ Kf8 15. dxe5 Nd5 16. Nd4 Qc8 17. Bf5 Qe8 18. Ne6+ Kg8 19. Nf3 { Black resigns. } 1-0[/pgn]

Yes, he scored just one draw in six 1'0" bullet games with LeelaQueenOdds. I happen to know who he is, but I can't reveal his identity, other than to say that he is indeed a very strong GM on the top fifty FIDE classical rating list. It is becoming pretty obvious that no human, not even Magnus or Hikaru, would win a 1'0" bullet match from LeelaQueenOdds (Leela playing White of course). You might actually have a better percent score than anyone in the world so far at 1'0" games, though only your games where you played Black can count for such a comparison as that is how almost all of these games have been played. Anyone trying to check this out should search for games from Nov 2 on, since that is the day the Leela queen odds net went live.

I think that the conclusion that no human can win bullet 1'0 match from LeelaQueenOdds when Leela has white has no basis.
You cannot get conclusions based on fide rating or even bullet rating because being better in bullet in queen odd conditions is not equivalent to being better in bullet.

I see no reason to assume that magnus or hikaru are the best in these conditions.

...The words that I am going to present below are not a concept, much less a scientific concept, they are my opinion: "No human being is in a position to win a bullet tournament 1-0 against LeelaQueenOdds by playing the human with the chips black."

** the human playing or driving the black chess pieces.

[Father]

It seems that fixing the bug change the table and now this is the table(I do not complain about reduction in the place of me that is logical but how it is possible that Catecan went down to 2291.9?)

I thought that even with dividing K by 2 considering the fact that he played so many games his rating should not go down by a lot because it already converged to his performance against the bot.
The only case when his rating should go down by a lot is the case that he improved significantly in the last games so the rating still did not converge to be close to the right rating.

Even I went down only by 30 elo or something like that and I could see 2246 or something close earlier after part of the update so I guess it was my rating before fixing the bug.

LeelaQueenOdds as white 1+0 (Reference) 2895.2
LeelaQueenOdds as black 1+0 (Reference) 2795.2
LeelaQueenOdds as white 1+1 (Reference) 2634.5
LeelaQueenOdds as white 3+0 (Reference) 2619.5
LeelaQueenOdds as black 1+1 (Reference) 2534.5
1 Orichess88 2524.5 73
LeelaQueenOdds as black 3+0 (Reference) 2519.5
2 Master_Unknown 2514.6 92
LeelaQueenOdds as white 3+2 (Reference) 2450.0
3 Ushkothebear 2443.7 184
4 Hissha 2398.4 94
5 Omnivor 2396.8 30
LeelaQueenOdds as white 5+3 (Reference) 2353.7
LeelaQueenOdds as black 3+2 (Reference) 2350.0
6 Respectful_Dave 2299.6 74
7 itore 2297.1 43
8 Catecan 2291.9 1288
LeelaQueenOdds as black 5+3 (Reference) 2253.7
9 Sakali 2251.1 146
10 Spreek 2229.8 45
11 sfy2011 2223.6 25
12 SilverMitt 2223.1 26
LeelaQueenOdds as white 10+5 (Reference) 2220.3
13 uriblass 2216.4 182
14 nn1133 2205.6 6346

Catecan went down because its recent performance is better than its older performance, all it has to do is maintain this performance and it will continue to rise.

I see the leader has 73 games in the table but search found only 65 games

https://lichess.org/@/Orichess88/search ... order=desc

What is the reason for the difference?

The bug likely occurs during the download of new games to update the leaderboard. Despite a check in the code to ensure only new games are added, it seems some are being added regardless. I will investigate how to fix it

LeelaQueenOdds Leaderboard - Top 100

About this Leaderboard

How do I earn points? You can gain or lose points only by playing LeelaQueenOdds
How is the rating computed? It's based on the same method as the FIDE rating adjustment, using:
K = 40 for the first 30 games
K = 20 up to 150 games
K = 10 for subsequent games
Play at your best Time Control: This leaderboard adjusts ratings based on Time Control
How is Leela's rating computed? A statistical model based on LeelaQueenOdds games normalizes Lichess blitz ratings and time control with the score expected by Elo
Play for the Win: Draws have the 'K' factor halved
Starting rating: Lichess rating - 200, with a maximum starting rating of 1800
Update: In these early stages, the leaderboard is updated occasionally but daily
Github: https://github.com/Marcogio9/LeelaQueenOdds-Leaderboard
No Player Rating Games
LeelaQueenOdds as white 1+0 (Reference) 2895.2
LeelaQueenOdds as black 1+0 (Reference) 2795.2
LeelaQueenOdds as white 1+1 (Reference) 2634.5
LeelaQueenOdds as white 3+0 (Reference) 2619.5
LeelaQueenOdds as black 1+1 (Reference) 2534.5
LeelaQueenOdds as black 3+0 (Reference) 2519.5
1 Orichess88 2514.5 73
2 Master_Unknown 2504.6 92
3 Hissha 2499.3 119
LeelaQueenOdds as white 3+2 (Reference) 2450.0
4 Ushkothebear 2415.1 268
5 Omnivor 2386.8 30
6 Catecan 2375.5 1551
LeelaQueenOdds as white 5+3 (Reference) 2353.7
LeelaQueenOdds as black 3+2 (Reference) 2350.0
7 Feofanov_Vladimir 2310.5 86
8 Respectful_Dave 2307.0 75
9 itore 2287.1 43
10 Bonitta 2266.5 33
LeelaQueenOdds as black 5+3 (Reference) 2253.7
11 Sakali 2246.6 162
12 AxelBoldt 2244.3 338
LeelaQueenOdds as white 10+5 (Reference) 2220.3
13 Spreek 2219.8 45
14 uriblass 2216.3 185
15 sfy2011 2213.6 25
16 SilverMitt 2213.1 26
17 Ajktulm 2206.8 293
18 nn1133 2195.6 6346
19 iWannaSeeYouSmile 2189.8 73
20 elputoano 2177.9 232
21 wael96 2151.0 53
22 edgebottle 2144.5 360
23 Forgive1219 2134.7 189
24 TheLlamaLord 2133.7 22
25 lyxsgdzt 2130.1 66
LeelaQueenOdds as white 15+10 (Reference) 2127.3
26 mapascual 2120.3 42
LeelaQueenOdds as black 10+5 (Reference) 2120.3
27 Jagen 2114.5 56
28 xHadyx 2104.4 169
29 WhiteRabbit00735 2091.1 145
30 chess66666 2088.4 204
31 ricky8632200 2066.4 83
32 MathTennisCoding 2054.0 25
33 RhinoTank 2049.4 38
34 Punypawn315 2044.9 19
35 wireless78 2044.4 21
36 ycw77092 2042.4 16
LeelaQueenOdds as black 15+10 (Reference) 2027.3
37 Give_You_Up 2027.2 37
38 SerbianPigeon 2026.6 23
39 Ready2live 2025.1 77
40 vital303 2020.9 351
41 Shakkileijona 2019.8 119
42 Superhond 2012.4 30
43 GambitSlonia2 2012.0 38
44 egor42 2012.0 12
45 Liouville1 2010.6 39
46 coachpotato11 2008.3 16
47 jzm 2006.3 15
48 RockyHolyfield 2004.7 20
49 QuCaNi 1993.0 21
50 maciej_rurami 1990.0 22
51 KentGoulding 1983.7 291
52 Chrisinc 1981.4 20
53 MGod123 1975.8 66
54 Pereval 1975.4 64
55 weirdexperiment 1972.4 53
56 ChaseTheMace 1970.8 58
57 Kacparov 1970.7 41
58 The_Pizza_Pazer 1968.5 13
59 raftsiam 1968.0 41
60 Brunetticus 1966.0 434
61 ericfromlux 1964.2 240
62 MrGaye 1963.0 11
63 box_boxed 1958.7 47
64 Monchi 1956.7 14
65 OjaiJoao 1955.7 5
66 megaserg86 1953.0 272
67 susiedent 1951.6 14
68 XulIyU 1948.2 36
69 XuYL_1a 1947.5 24
70 Nechto37 1943.4 113
71 CommonElk 1940.8 36
72 darkhorse_98 1940.6 19
73 Nudibranchs 1934.6 11
74 ActorXu 1925.3 64
75 desperado64 1920.0 41
76 ranibow_ghost 1918.7 16
77 Gryphos1 1917.9 84
78 junglegame 1916.3 11
79 fuyukara 1914.0 30
80 Andrey_Kirillov 1912.4 4
81 wencun 1910.6 50
82 PedalExtremities 1909.9 125
83 TrainingAccount04 1906.8 8
84 j_h_n 1906.6 94
85 veni_vidi_vici2007 1905.1 39
86 WW-1219 1897.9 27
87 Ehudgol 1892.1 27
88 JConcorde 1890.5 41
89 Rawnsdale 1889.0 25
90 legionofboom 1886.6 21
91 Fearsamuel 1885.9 7
92 shhmrhSX 1884.7 23
93 loneachess 1883.6 9
94 FuegoAbrumador 1883.6 63
95 piscatorox 1881.0 3
96 Gvierous-Lady 1879.7 93
97 qihunanxia0705 1875.4 339
98 Grigory_Rasshivalin 1874.7 14
99 jos3000 1873.9 23
100 itay121 1873.7 23

[Father]

It seems that fixing the bug change the table and now this is the table(I do not complain about reduction in the place of me that is logical but how it is possible that Catecan went down to 2291.9?)

I thought that even with dividing K by 2 considering the fact that he played so many games his rating should not go down by a lot because it already converged to his performance against the bot.
The only case when his rating should go down by a lot is the case that he improved significantly in the last games so the rating still did not converge to be close to the right rating.

Even I went down only by 30 elo or something like that and I could see 2246 or something close earlier after part of the update so I guess it was my rating before fixing the bug.

LeelaQueenOdds as white 1+0 (Reference) 2895.2
LeelaQueenOdds as black 1+0 (Reference) 2795.2
LeelaQueenOdds as white 1+1 (Reference) 2634.5
LeelaQueenOdds as white 3+0 (Reference) 2619.5
LeelaQueenOdds as black 1+1 (Reference) 2534.5
1 Orichess88 2524.5 73
LeelaQueenOdds as black 3+0 (Reference) 2519.5
2 Master_Unknown 2514.6 92
LeelaQueenOdds as white 3+2 (Reference) 2450.0
3 Ushkothebear 2443.7 184
4 Hissha 2398.4 94
5 Omnivor 2396.8 30
LeelaQueenOdds as white 5+3 (Reference) 2353.7
LeelaQueenOdds as black 3+2 (Reference) 2350.0
6 Respectful_Dave 2299.6 74
7 itore 2297.1 43
8 Catecan 2291.9 1288
LeelaQueenOdds as black 5+3 (Reference) 2253.7
9 Sakali 2251.1 146
10 Spreek 2229.8 45
11 sfy2011 2223.6 25
12 SilverMitt 2223.1 26
LeelaQueenOdds as white 10+5 (Reference) 2220.3
13 uriblass 2216.4 182
14 nn1133 2205.6 6346

Catecan went down because its recent performance is better than its older performance, all it has to do is maintain this performance and it will continue to rise.

I see the leader has 73 games in the table but search found only 65 games

https://lichess.org/@/Orichess88/search ... order=desc

What is the reason for the difference?

The bug likely occurs during the download of new games to update the leaderboard. Despite a check in the code to ensure only new games are added, it seems some are being added regardless. I will investigate how to fix it

LeelaQueenOdds Leaderboard - Top 100

About this Leaderboard

How do I earn points? You can gain or lose points only by playing LeelaQueenOdds
How is the rating computed? It's based on the same method as the FIDE rating adjustment, using:
K = 40 for the first 30 games
K = 20 up to 150 games
K = 10 for subsequent games
Play at your best Time Control: This leaderboard adjusts ratings based on Time Control
How is Leela's rating computed? A statistical model based on LeelaQueenOdds games normalizes Lichess blitz ratings and time control with the score expected by Elo
Play for the Win: Draws have the 'K' factor halved
Starting rating: Lichess rating - 200, with a maximum starting rating of 1800
Update: In these early stages, the leaderboard is updated occasionally but daily
Github: https://github.com/Marcogio9/LeelaQueenOdds-Leaderboard
No Player Rating Games
LeelaQueenOdds as white 1+0 (Reference) 2895.2
LeelaQueenOdds as black 1+0 (Reference) 2795.2
LeelaQueenOdds as white 1+1 (Reference) 2634.5
LeelaQueenOdds as white 3+0 (Reference) 2619.5
LeelaQueenOdds as black 1+1 (Reference) 2534.5
LeelaQueenOdds as black 3+0 (Reference) 2519.5
1 Orichess88 2514.5 73
2 Master_Unknown 2504.6 92
3 Hissha 2499.3 119
LeelaQueenOdds as white 3+2 (Reference) 2450.0
4 Ushkothebear 2415.1 268
5 Omnivor 2386.8 30
6 Catecan 2375.5 1551
LeelaQueenOdds as white 5+3 (Reference) 2353.7
LeelaQueenOdds as black 3+2 (Reference) 2350.0
7 Feofanov_Vladimir 2310.5 86
8 Respectful_Dave 2307.0 75
9 itore 2287.1 43
10 Bonitta 2266.5 33
LeelaQueenOdds as black 5+3 (Reference) 2253.7
11 Sakali 2246.6 162
12 AxelBoldt 2244.3 338
LeelaQueenOdds as white 10+5 (Reference) 2220.3
13 Spreek 2219.8 45
14 uriblass 2216.3 185
15 sfy2011 2213.6 25
16 SilverMitt 2213.1 26
17 Ajktulm 2206.8 293
18 nn1133 2195.6 6346
19 iWannaSeeYouSmile 2189.8 73
20 elputoano 2177.9 232
21 wael96 2151.0 53
22 edgebottle 2144.5 360
23 Forgive1219 2134.7 189
24 TheLlamaLord 2133.7 22
25 lyxsgdzt 2130.1 66
LeelaQueenOdds as white 15+10 (Reference) 2127.3
26 mapascual 2120.3 42
LeelaQueenOdds as black 10+5 (Reference) 2120.3
27 Jagen 2114.5 56
28 xHadyx 2104.4 169
29 WhiteRabbit00735 2091.1 145
30 chess66666 2088.4 204
31 ricky8632200 2066.4 83
32 MathTennisCoding 2054.0 25
33 RhinoTank 2049.4 38
34 Punypawn315 2044.9 19
35 wireless78 2044.4 21
36 ycw77092 2042.4 16
LeelaQueenOdds as black 15+10 (Reference) 2027.3
37 Give_You_Up 2027.2 37
38 SerbianPigeon 2026.6 23
39 Ready2live 2025.1 77
40 vital303 2020.9 351
41 Shakkileijona 2019.8 119
42 Superhond 2012.4 30
43 GambitSlonia2 2012.0 38
44 egor42 2012.0 12
45 Liouville1 2010.6 39
46 coachpotato11 2008.3 16
47 jzm 2006.3 15
48 RockyHolyfield 2004.7 20
49 QuCaNi 1993.0 21
50 maciej_rurami 1990.0 22
51 KentGoulding 1983.7 291
52 Chrisinc 1981.4 20
53 MGod123 1975.8 66
54 Pereval 1975.4 64
55 weirdexperiment 1972.4 53
56 ChaseTheMace 1970.8 58
57 Kacparov 1970.7 41
58 The_Pizza_Pazer 1968.5 13
59 raftsiam 1968.0 41
60 Brunetticus 1966.0 434
61 ericfromlux 1964.2 240
62 MrGaye 1963.0 11
63 box_boxed 1958.7 47
64 Monchi 1956.7 14
65 OjaiJoao 1955.7 5
66 megaserg86 1953.0 272
67 susiedent 1951.6 14
68 XulIyU 1948.2 36
69 XuYL_1a 1947.5 24
70 Nechto37 1943.4 113
71 CommonElk 1940.8 36
72 darkhorse_98 1940.6 19
73 Nudibranchs 1934.6 11
74 ActorXu 1925.3 64
75 desperado64 1920.0 41
76 ranibow_ghost 1918.7 16
77 Gryphos1 1917.9 84
78 junglegame 1916.3 11
79 fuyukara 1914.0 30
80 Andrey_Kirillov 1912.4 4
81 wencun 1910.6 50
82 PedalExtremities 1909.9 125
83 TrainingAccount04 1906.8 8
84 j_h_n 1906.6 94
85 veni_vidi_vici2007 1905.1 39
86 WW-1219 1897.9 27
87 Ehudgol 1892.1 27
88 JConcorde 1890.5 41
89 Rawnsdale 1889.0 25
90 legionofboom 1886.6 21
91 Fearsamuel 1885.9 7
92 shhmrhSX 1884.7 23
93 loneachess 1883.6 9
94 FuegoAbrumador 1883.6 63
95 piscatorox 1881.0 3
96 Gvierous-Lady 1879.7 93
97 qihunanxia0705 1875.4 339
98 Grigory_Rasshivalin 1874.7 14
99 jos3000 1873.9 23
100 itay121 1873.7 23

Good morning everyone. A new day of life has been given to us, and the stars sun and moon are in the heavens, accompanied by the stars. Today I would like to congratulate "Hissha" for his brilliance in the Top 100 list of the standings, of the best humans. Congratulations to all the members of the table, and to all the players who face the computer who are not on the table, they are all stars of the firmament.

[Father]

It seems that fixing the bug change the table and now this is the table(I do not complain about reduction in the place of me that is logical but how it is possible that Catecan went down to 2291.9?)

I thought that even with dividing K by 2 considering the fact that he played so many games his rating should not go down by a lot because it already converged to his performance against the bot.
The only case when his rating should go down by a lot is the case that he improved significantly in the last games so the rating still did not converge to be close to the right rating.

Even I went down only by 30 elo or something like that and I could see 2246 or something close earlier after part of the update so I guess it was my rating before fixing the bug.

LeelaQueenOdds as white 1+0 (Reference) 2895.2
LeelaQueenOdds as black 1+0 (Reference) 2795.2
LeelaQueenOdds as white 1+1 (Reference) 2634.5
LeelaQueenOdds as white 3+0 (Reference) 2619.5
LeelaQueenOdds as black 1+1 (Reference) 2534.5
1 Orichess88 2524.5 73
LeelaQueenOdds as black 3+0 (Reference) 2519.5
2 Master_Unknown 2514.6 92
LeelaQueenOdds as white 3+2 (Reference) 2450.0
3 Ushkothebear 2443.7 184
4 Hissha 2398.4 94
5 Omnivor 2396.8 30
LeelaQueenOdds as white 5+3 (Reference) 2353.7
LeelaQueenOdds as black 3+2 (Reference) 2350.0
6 Respectful_Dave 2299.6 74
7 itore 2297.1 43
8 Catecan 2291.9 1288
LeelaQueenOdds as black 5+3 (Reference) 2253.7
9 Sakali 2251.1 146
10 Spreek 2229.8 45
11 sfy2011 2223.6 25
12 SilverMitt 2223.1 26
LeelaQueenOdds as white 10+5 (Reference) 2220.3
13 uriblass 2216.4 182
14 nn1133 2205.6 6346

Catecan went down because its recent performance is better than its older performance, all it has to do is maintain this performance and it will continue to rise.

I see the leader has 73 games in the table but search found only 65 games

https://lichess.org/@/Orichess88/search ... order=desc

What is the reason for the difference?

The bug likely occurs during the download of new games to update the leaderboard. Despite a check in the code to ensure only new games are added, it seems some are being added regardless. I will investigate how to fix it

LeelaQueenOdds Leaderboard - Top 100

About this Leaderboard

How do I earn points? You can gain or lose points only by playing LeelaQueenOdds
How is the rating computed? It's based on the same method as the FIDE rating adjustment, using:
K = 40 for the first 30 games
K = 20 up to 150 games
K = 10 for subsequent games
Play at your best Time Control: This leaderboard adjusts ratings based on Time Control
How is Leela's rating computed? A statistical model based on LeelaQueenOdds games normalizes Lichess blitz ratings and time control with the score expected by Elo
Play for the Win: Draws have the 'K' factor halved
Starting rating: Lichess rating - 200, with a maximum starting rating of 1800
Update: In these early stages, the leaderboard is updated occasionally but daily
Github: https://github.com/Marcogio9/LeelaQueenOdds-Leaderboard
No Player Rating Games
LeelaQueenOdds as white 1+0 (Reference) 2895.2
LeelaQueenOdds as black 1+0 (Reference) 2795.2
LeelaQueenOdds as white 1+1 (Reference) 2634.5
LeelaQueenOdds as white 3+0 (Reference) 2619.5
LeelaQueenOdds as black 1+1 (Reference) 2534.5
LeelaQueenOdds as black 3+0 (Reference) 2519.5
1 Orichess88 2514.5 73
2 Master_Unknown 2504.6 92
3 Hissha 2499.3 119
LeelaQueenOdds as white 3+2 (Reference) 2450.0
4 Ushkothebear 2415.1 268
5 Omnivor 2386.8 30
6 Catecan 2375.5 1551
LeelaQueenOdds as white 5+3 (Reference) 2353.7
LeelaQueenOdds as black 3+2 (Reference) 2350.0
7 Feofanov_Vladimir 2310.5 86
8 Respectful_Dave 2307.0 75
9 itore 2287.1 43
10 Bonitta 2266.5 33
LeelaQueenOdds as black 5+3 (Reference) 2253.7
11 Sakali 2246.6 162
12 AxelBoldt 2244.3 338
LeelaQueenOdds as white 10+5 (Reference) 2220.3
13 Spreek 2219.8 45
14 uriblass 2216.3 185
15 sfy2011 2213.6 25
16 SilverMitt 2213.1 26
17 Ajktulm 2206.8 293
18 nn1133 2195.6 6346
19 iWannaSeeYouSmile 2189.8 73
20 elputoano 2177.9 232
21 wael96 2151.0 53
22 edgebottle 2144.5 360
23 Forgive1219 2134.7 189
24 TheLlamaLord 2133.7 22
25 lyxsgdzt 2130.1 66
LeelaQueenOdds as white 15+10 (Reference) 2127.3
26 mapascual 2120.3 42
LeelaQueenOdds as black 10+5 (Reference) 2120.3
27 Jagen 2114.5 56
28 xHadyx 2104.4 169
29 WhiteRabbit00735 2091.1 145
30 chess66666 2088.4 204
31 ricky8632200 2066.4 83
32 MathTennisCoding 2054.0 25
33 RhinoTank 2049.4 38
34 Punypawn315 2044.9 19
35 wireless78 2044.4 21
36 ycw77092 2042.4 16
LeelaQueenOdds as black 15+10 (Reference) 2027.3
37 Give_You_Up 2027.2 37
38 SerbianPigeon 2026.6 23
39 Ready2live 2025.1 77
40 vital303 2020.9 351
41 Shakkileijona 2019.8 119
42 Superhond 2012.4 30
43 GambitSlonia2 2012.0 38
44 egor42 2012.0 12
45 Liouville1 2010.6 39
46 coachpotato11 2008.3 16
47 jzm 2006.3 15
48 RockyHolyfield 2004.7 20
49 QuCaNi 1993.0 21
50 maciej_rurami 1990.0 22
51 KentGoulding 1983.7 291
52 Chrisinc 1981.4 20
53 MGod123 1975.8 66
54 Pereval 1975.4 64
55 weirdexperiment 1972.4 53
56 ChaseTheMace 1970.8 58
57 Kacparov 1970.7 41
58 The_Pizza_Pazer 1968.5 13
59 raftsiam 1968.0 41
60 Brunetticus 1966.0 434
61 ericfromlux 1964.2 240
62 MrGaye 1963.0 11
63 box_boxed 1958.7 47
64 Monchi 1956.7 14
65 OjaiJoao 1955.7 5
66 megaserg86 1953.0 272
67 susiedent 1951.6 14
68 XulIyU 1948.2 36
69 XuYL_1a 1947.5 24
70 Nechto37 1943.4 113
71 CommonElk 1940.8 36
72 darkhorse_98 1940.6 19
73 Nudibranchs 1934.6 11
74 ActorXu 1925.3 64
75 desperado64 1920.0 41
76 ranibow_ghost 1918.7 16
77 Gryphos1 1917.9 84
78 junglegame 1916.3 11
79 fuyukara 1914.0 30
80 Andrey_Kirillov 1912.4 4
81 wencun 1910.6 50
82 PedalExtremities 1909.9 125
83 TrainingAccount04 1906.8 8
84 j_h_n 1906.6 94
85 veni_vidi_vici2007 1905.1 39
86 WW-1219 1897.9 27
87 Ehudgol 1892.1 27
88 JConcorde 1890.5 41
89 Rawnsdale 1889.0 25
90 legionofboom 1886.6 21
91 Fearsamuel 1885.9 7
92 shhmrhSX 1884.7 23
93 loneachess 1883.6 9
94 FuegoAbrumador 1883.6 63
95 piscatorox 1881.0 3
96 Gvierous-Lady 1879.7 93
97 qihunanxia0705 1875.4 339
98 Grigory_Rasshivalin 1874.7 14
99 jos3000 1873.9 23
100 itay121 1873.7 23

Good morning everyone. A new day of life has been given to us, and the stars sun and moon are in the heavens, accompanied by the stars. Today I would like to congratulate "Hissha" for his brilliance in the Top 100 list of the standings, of the best humans. Congratulations to all the members of the table, and to all the players who face the computer who are not on the table, they are all stars of the firmament.

Another peodigy GM faces LeelaqueenOdds in bullet time of one minute without increment;
GM A-Liang obtains an important number of victories, and the chess board shakes and burns.

[Father]

It seems that fixing the bug change the table and now this is the table(I do not complain about reduction in the place of me that is logical but how it is possible that Catecan went down to 2291.9?)

I thought that even with dividing K by 2 considering the fact that he played so many games his rating should not go down by a lot because it already converged to his performance against the bot.
The only case when his rating should go down by a lot is the case that he improved significantly in the last games so the rating still did not converge to be close to the right rating.

Even I went down only by 30 elo or something like that and I could see 2246 or something close earlier after part of the update so I guess it was my rating before fixing the bug.

LeelaQueenOdds as white 1+0 (Reference) 2895.2
LeelaQueenOdds as black 1+0 (Reference) 2795.2
LeelaQueenOdds as white 1+1 (Reference) 2634.5
LeelaQueenOdds as white 3+0 (Reference) 2619.5
LeelaQueenOdds as black 1+1 (Reference) 2534.5
1 Orichess88 2524.5 73
LeelaQueenOdds as black 3+0 (Reference) 2519.5
2 Master_Unknown 2514.6 92
LeelaQueenOdds as white 3+2 (Reference) 2450.0
3 Ushkothebear 2443.7 184
4 Hissha 2398.4 94
5 Omnivor 2396.8 30
LeelaQueenOdds as white 5+3 (Reference) 2353.7
LeelaQueenOdds as black 3+2 (Reference) 2350.0
6 Respectful_Dave 2299.6 74
7 itore 2297.1 43
8 Catecan 2291.9 1288
LeelaQueenOdds as black 5+3 (Reference) 2253.7
9 Sakali 2251.1 146
10 Spreek 2229.8 45
11 sfy2011 2223.6 25
12 SilverMitt 2223.1 26
LeelaQueenOdds as white 10+5 (Reference) 2220.3
13 uriblass 2216.4 182
14 nn1133 2205.6 6346

Catecan went down because its recent performance is better than its older performance, all it has to do is maintain this performance and it will continue to rise.

I see the leader has 73 games in the table but search found only 65 games

https://lichess.org/@/Orichess88/search ... order=desc

What is the reason for the difference?

The bug likely occurs during the download of new games to update the leaderboard. Despite a check in the code to ensure only new games are added, it seems some are being added regardless. I will investigate how to fix it

LeelaQueenOdds Leaderboard - Top 100

About this Leaderboard

How do I earn points? You can gain or lose points only by playing LeelaQueenOdds
How is the rating computed? It's based on the same method as the FIDE rating adjustment, using:
K = 40 for the first 30 games
K = 20 up to 150 games
K = 10 for subsequent games
Play at your best Time Control: This leaderboard adjusts ratings based on Time Control
How is Leela's rating computed? A statistical model based on LeelaQueenOdds games normalizes Lichess blitz ratings and time control with the score expected by Elo
Play for the Win: Draws have the 'K' factor halved
Starting rating: Lichess rating - 200, with a maximum starting rating of 1800
Update: In these early stages, the leaderboard is updated occasionally but daily
Github: https://github.com/Marcogio9/LeelaQueenOdds-Leaderboard
No Player Rating Games
LeelaQueenOdds as white 1+0 (Reference) 2895.2
LeelaQueenOdds as black 1+0 (Reference) 2795.2
LeelaQueenOdds as white 1+1 (Reference) 2634.5
LeelaQueenOdds as white 3+0 (Reference) 2619.5
LeelaQueenOdds as black 1+1 (Reference) 2534.5
LeelaQueenOdds as black 3+0 (Reference) 2519.5
1 Orichess88 2514.5 73
2 Master_Unknown 2504.6 92
3 Hissha 2499.3 119
LeelaQueenOdds as white 3+2 (Reference) 2450.0
4 Ushkothebear 2415.1 268
5 Omnivor 2386.8 30
6 Catecan 2375.5 1551
LeelaQueenOdds as white 5+3 (Reference) 2353.7
LeelaQueenOdds as black 3+2 (Reference) 2350.0
7 Feofanov_Vladimir 2310.5 86
8 Respectful_Dave 2307.0 75
9 itore 2287.1 43
10 Bonitta 2266.5 33
LeelaQueenOdds as black 5+3 (Reference) 2253.7
11 Sakali 2246.6 162
12 AxelBoldt 2244.3 338
LeelaQueenOdds as white 10+5 (Reference) 2220.3
13 Spreek 2219.8 45
14 uriblass 2216.3 185
15 sfy2011 2213.6 25
16 SilverMitt 2213.1 26
17 Ajktulm 2206.8 293
18 nn1133 2195.6 6346
19 iWannaSeeYouSmile 2189.8 73
20 elputoano 2177.9 232
21 wael96 2151.0 53
22 edgebottle 2144.5 360
23 Forgive1219 2134.7 189
24 TheLlamaLord 2133.7 22
25 lyxsgdzt 2130.1 66
LeelaQueenOdds as white 15+10 (Reference) 2127.3
26 mapascual 2120.3 42
LeelaQueenOdds as black 10+5 (Reference) 2120.3
27 Jagen 2114.5 56
28 xHadyx 2104.4 169
29 WhiteRabbit00735 2091.1 145
30 chess66666 2088.4 204
31 ricky8632200 2066.4 83
32 MathTennisCoding 2054.0 25
33 RhinoTank 2049.4 38
34 Punypawn315 2044.9 19
35 wireless78 2044.4 21
36 ycw77092 2042.4 16
LeelaQueenOdds as black 15+10 (Reference) 2027.3
37 Give_You_Up 2027.2 37
38 SerbianPigeon 2026.6 23
39 Ready2live 2025.1 77
40 vital303 2020.9 351
41 Shakkileijona 2019.8 119
42 Superhond 2012.4 30
43 GambitSlonia2 2012.0 38
44 egor42 2012.0 12
45 Liouville1 2010.6 39
46 coachpotato11 2008.3 16
47 jzm 2006.3 15
48 RockyHolyfield 2004.7 20
49 QuCaNi 1993.0 21
50 maciej_rurami 1990.0 22
51 KentGoulding 1983.7 291
52 Chrisinc 1981.4 20
53 MGod123 1975.8 66
54 Pereval 1975.4 64
55 weirdexperiment 1972.4 53
56 ChaseTheMace 1970.8 58
57 Kacparov 1970.7 41
58 The_Pizza_Pazer 1968.5 13
59 raftsiam 1968.0 41
60 Brunetticus 1966.0 434
61 ericfromlux 1964.2 240
62 MrGaye 1963.0 11
63 box_boxed 1958.7 47
64 Monchi 1956.7 14
65 OjaiJoao 1955.7 5
66 megaserg86 1953.0 272
67 susiedent 1951.6 14
68 XulIyU 1948.2 36
69 XuYL_1a 1947.5 24
70 Nechto37 1943.4 113
71 CommonElk 1940.8 36
72 darkhorse_98 1940.6 19
73 Nudibranchs 1934.6 11
74 ActorXu 1925.3 64
75 desperado64 1920.0 41
76 ranibow_ghost 1918.7 16
77 Gryphos1 1917.9 84
78 junglegame 1916.3 11
79 fuyukara 1914.0 30
80 Andrey_Kirillov 1912.4 4
81 wencun 1910.6 50
82 PedalExtremities 1909.9 125
83 TrainingAccount04 1906.8 8
84 j_h_n 1906.6 94
85 veni_vidi_vici2007 1905.1 39
86 WW-1219 1897.9 27
87 Ehudgol 1892.1 27
88 JConcorde 1890.5 41
89 Rawnsdale 1889.0 25
90 legionofboom 1886.6 21
91 Fearsamuel 1885.9 7
92 shhmrhSX 1884.7 23
93 loneachess 1883.6 9
94 FuegoAbrumador 1883.6 63
95 piscatorox 1881.0 3
96 Gvierous-Lady 1879.7 93
97 qihunanxia0705 1875.4 339
98 Grigory_Rasshivalin 1874.7 14
99 jos3000 1873.9 23
100 itay121 1873.7 23

Good morning everyone. A new day of life has been given to us, and the stars sun and moon are in the heavens, accompanied by the stars. Today I would like to congratulate "Hissha" for his brilliance in the Top 100 list of the standings, of the best humans. Congratulations to all the members of the table, and to all the players who face the computer who are not on the table, they are all stars of the firmament.

Another peodigy GM faces LeelaqueenOdds in bullet time of one minute without increment;
GM A-Liang obtains an important number of victories, and the chess board shakes and burns.

The prodigy GM has a rating of 2640, I wonder what rating LeelaqueenOdds has in bullet time of one minute without increment? The GM even defeated the computer consecutively, I was able to observe 36 matches.
GM A-Liang obtains an important number of victories. I haven't seen anyone else put the computer on the ropes like that before at the 1-0 bullet time level.

[lkaufman]

It seems that fixing the bug change the table and now this is the table(I do not complain about reduction in the place of me that is logical but how it is possible that Catecan went down to 2291.9?)

I thought that even with dividing K by 2 considering the fact that he played so many games his rating should not go down by a lot because it already converged to his performance against the bot.
The only case when his rating should go down by a lot is the case that he improved significantly in the last games so the rating still did not converge to be close to the right rating.

Even I went down only by 30 elo or something like that and I could see 2246 or something close earlier after part of the update so I guess it was my rating before fixing the bug.

LeelaQueenOdds as white 1+0 (Reference) 2895.2
LeelaQueenOdds as black 1+0 (Reference) 2795.2
LeelaQueenOdds as white 1+1 (Reference) 2634.5
LeelaQueenOdds as white 3+0 (Reference) 2619.5
LeelaQueenOdds as black 1+1 (Reference) 2534.5
1 Orichess88 2524.5 73
LeelaQueenOdds as black 3+0 (Reference) 2519.5
2 Master_Unknown 2514.6 92
LeelaQueenOdds as white 3+2 (Reference) 2450.0
3 Ushkothebear 2443.7 184
4 Hissha 2398.4 94
5 Omnivor 2396.8 30
LeelaQueenOdds as white 5+3 (Reference) 2353.7
LeelaQueenOdds as black 3+2 (Reference) 2350.0
6 Respectful_Dave 2299.6 74
7 itore 2297.1 43
8 Catecan 2291.9 1288
LeelaQueenOdds as black 5+3 (Reference) 2253.7
9 Sakali 2251.1 146
10 Spreek 2229.8 45
11 sfy2011 2223.6 25
12 SilverMitt 2223.1 26
LeelaQueenOdds as white 10+5 (Reference) 2220.3
13 uriblass 2216.4 182
14 nn1133 2205.6 6346

Catecan went down because its recent performance is better than its older performance, all it has to do is maintain this performance and it will continue to rise.

I see the leader has 73 games in the table but search found only 65 games

https://lichess.org/@/Orichess88/search ... order=desc

What is the reason for the difference?

The bug likely occurs during the download of new games to update the leaderboard. Despite a check in the code to ensure only new games are added, it seems some are being added regardless. I will investigate how to fix it

LeelaQueenOdds Leaderboard - Top 100

About this Leaderboard

How do I earn points? You can gain or lose points only by playing LeelaQueenOdds
How is the rating computed? It's based on the same method as the FIDE rating adjustment, using:
K = 40 for the first 30 games
K = 20 up to 150 games
K = 10 for subsequent games
Play at your best Time Control: This leaderboard adjusts ratings based on Time Control
How is Leela's rating computed? A statistical model based on LeelaQueenOdds games normalizes Lichess blitz ratings and time control with the score expected by Elo
Play for the Win: Draws have the 'K' factor halved
Starting rating: Lichess rating - 200, with a maximum starting rating of 1800
Update: In these early stages, the leaderboard is updated occasionally but daily
Github: https://github.com/Marcogio9/LeelaQueenOdds-Leaderboard
No Player Rating Games
LeelaQueenOdds as white 1+0 (Reference) 2895.2
LeelaQueenOdds as black 1+0 (Reference) 2795.2
LeelaQueenOdds as white 1+1 (Reference) 2634.5
LeelaQueenOdds as white 3+0 (Reference) 2619.5
LeelaQueenOdds as black 1+1 (Reference) 2534.5
LeelaQueenOdds as black 3+0 (Reference) 2519.5
1 Orichess88 2514.5 73
2 Master_Unknown 2504.6 92
3 Hissha 2499.3 119
LeelaQueenOdds as white 3+2 (Reference) 2450.0
4 Ushkothebear 2415.1 268
5 Omnivor 2386.8 30
6 Catecan 2375.5 1551
LeelaQueenOdds as white 5+3 (Reference) 2353.7
LeelaQueenOdds as black 3+2 (Reference) 2350.0
7 Feofanov_Vladimir 2310.5 86
8 Respectful_Dave 2307.0 75
9 itore 2287.1 43
10 Bonitta 2266.5 33
LeelaQueenOdds as black 5+3 (Reference) 2253.7
11 Sakali 2246.6 162
12 AxelBoldt 2244.3 338
LeelaQueenOdds as white 10+5 (Reference) 2220.3
13 Spreek 2219.8 45
14 uriblass 2216.3 185
15 sfy2011 2213.6 25
16 SilverMitt 2213.1 26
17 Ajktulm 2206.8 293
18 nn1133 2195.6 6346
19 iWannaSeeYouSmile 2189.8 73
20 elputoano 2177.9 232
21 wael96 2151.0 53
22 edgebottle 2144.5 360
23 Forgive1219 2134.7 189
24 TheLlamaLord 2133.7 22
25 lyxsgdzt 2130.1 66
LeelaQueenOdds as white 15+10 (Reference) 2127.3
26 mapascual 2120.3 42
LeelaQueenOdds as black 10+5 (Reference) 2120.3
27 Jagen 2114.5 56
28 xHadyx 2104.4 169
29 WhiteRabbit00735 2091.1 145
30 chess66666 2088.4 204
31 ricky8632200 2066.4 83
32 MathTennisCoding 2054.0 25
33 RhinoTank 2049.4 38
34 Punypawn315 2044.9 19
35 wireless78 2044.4 21
36 ycw77092 2042.4 16
LeelaQueenOdds as black 15+10 (Reference) 2027.3
37 Give_You_Up 2027.2 37
38 SerbianPigeon 2026.6 23
39 Ready2live 2025.1 77
40 vital303 2020.9 351
41 Shakkileijona 2019.8 119
42 Superhond 2012.4 30
43 GambitSlonia2 2012.0 38
44 egor42 2012.0 12
45 Liouville1 2010.6 39
46 coachpotato11 2008.3 16
47 jzm 2006.3 15
48 RockyHolyfield 2004.7 20
49 QuCaNi 1993.0 21
50 maciej_rurami 1990.0 22
51 KentGoulding 1983.7 291
52 Chrisinc 1981.4 20
53 MGod123 1975.8 66
54 Pereval 1975.4 64
55 weirdexperiment 1972.4 53
56 ChaseTheMace 1970.8 58
57 Kacparov 1970.7 41
58 The_Pizza_Pazer 1968.5 13
59 raftsiam 1968.0 41
60 Brunetticus 1966.0 434
61 ericfromlux 1964.2 240
62 MrGaye 1963.0 11
63 box_boxed 1958.7 47
64 Monchi 1956.7 14
65 OjaiJoao 1955.7 5
66 megaserg86 1953.0 272
67 susiedent 1951.6 14
68 XulIyU 1948.2 36
69 XuYL_1a 1947.5 24
70 Nechto37 1943.4 113
71 CommonElk 1940.8 36
72 darkhorse_98 1940.6 19
73 Nudibranchs 1934.6 11
74 ActorXu 1925.3 64
75 desperado64 1920.0 41
76 ranibow_ghost 1918.7 16
77 Gryphos1 1917.9 84
78 junglegame 1916.3 11
79 fuyukara 1914.0 30
80 Andrey_Kirillov 1912.4 4
81 wencun 1910.6 50
82 PedalExtremities 1909.9 125
83 TrainingAccount04 1906.8 8
84 j_h_n 1906.6 94
85 veni_vidi_vici2007 1905.1 39
86 WW-1219 1897.9 27
87 Ehudgol 1892.1 27
88 JConcorde 1890.5 41
89 Rawnsdale 1889.0 25
90 legionofboom 1886.6 21
91 Fearsamuel 1885.9 7
92 shhmrhSX 1884.7 23
93 loneachess 1883.6 9
94 FuegoAbrumador 1883.6 63
95 piscatorox 1881.0 3
96 Gvierous-Lady 1879.7 93
97 qihunanxia0705 1875.4 339
98 Grigory_Rasshivalin 1874.7 14
99 jos3000 1873.9 23
100 itay121 1873.7 23

Good morning everyone. A new day of life has been given to us, and the stars sun and moon are in the heavens, accompanied by the stars. Today I would like to congratulate "Hissha" for his brilliance in the Top 100 list of the standings, of the best humans. Congratulations to all the members of the table, and to all the players who face the computer who are not on the table, they are all stars of the firmament.

Another peodigy GM faces LeelaqueenOdds in bullet time of one minute without increment;
GM A-Liang obtains an important number of victories, and the chess board shakes and burns.

The prodigy GM has a rating of 2640, I wonder what rating LeelaqueenOdds has in bullet time of one minute without increment? The GM even defeated the computer consecutively, I was able to observe 36 matches.
GM A-Liang obtains an important number of victories. I haven't seen anyone else put the computer on the ropes like that before at the 1-0 bullet time level.

You must be looking at some old rating list. GM Awonder Liang is currently rated 2687 FIDE, both on the official list and on the "Live" rating list (his last tournament was a break-even for rating). He recently tied for second in the U.S. Championship, could have been clear second if he settled for a draw in the last round (in a winning position). About 12 years ago, he became the youngest player in the world to defeat a GM in a standard tournament game at age 9 (now the record is 8). The GM in question: me! He is planning to play a Rapid Knight Odds match with LeelaKnightOdds soon, we are just trying to find dates that work for all.