Details about Leela Chalange in Jerusalem

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Re: Details about Leela Chalange in Jerusalem

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some analysis of game 14 last game of the pieceodds bot(other rook odds gasmes are played with the rook odds bot)

[pgn][Event "casual classical game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/BXBrdCuh"]
[Date "2025.11.29"]
[Round "?"]
[White "LeelaPieceOdds"]
[Black "jeruchess"]
[Result "1-0"]
[BlackElo "2400"]
[WhiteElo "2200"]
[TimeControl "5400+30"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/1NBQKBNR w Kkq - 0 1"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "99"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "human"]

1. e4 d5 2. exd5 Nf6 3. d4 c6 4. c3 Bf5 5. Nd2 Qxd5 6. Ngf3 e6 7. Nh4 Bg4
8. Qc2 Be7 (8. .. c5) (8. .. Qxa2) 9. Bc4 Qd8 10. h3 Bh5 11. g4 Bg6 12.
Nxg6 hxg6 13. Nf3 Qd6 14. g5 Nd5 15. O-O Nd7 (15. .. b5 16. Be2 Rxh3) 16.
h4 O-O-O (16. .. e5) 17. Re1 Rh5? (17. .. e5 18. dxe5 Qe6 19. Re4 Qh3 20.
Bf1 Qxf3 21. Be2 Qh3 22. Bg4 Qxh4 23. Bxd7+ Rxd7 24. Rxh4 Rxh4) (17. .. Qc7
{with the idea Bd6=f4 is better}) 18. Qe4 Rdh8 19. Bb3 N7f6 (19. .. e5) 20.
gxf6 gxf6 21. c4 Nc7? (21. .. f5 22. Qe5 (22. Qd3 Nf4) 22. .. Qxe5) 22. Bf4
Qd7 23. d5 e5 (23. .. cxd5) 24. Bg3 Qf5 (24. .. cxd5) 25. Qe2 Bc5 (25. ..
g5) 26. Kg2 Qd7 (26. .. g5) 27. Ba4 g5 (27. .. b5) 28. dxc6 bxc6 29. Qe4
gxh4 30. Nxh4 Qd4 (30. .. Qe6) 31. Qxd4 Bxd4 32. Nf3 Bxb2 (32. .. c5) 33.
Rb1 Ba3 34. Bxc6 Bc5 (34. .. Ne6) 35. Nd2 Ne6 (35. .. Rg8) 36. Ne4 Kc7?
{(-2.08 ? -0.78) Mistake. R5h6 was best.} (36. .. R5h6 37. Bd5 Be7 38. Rb7
Nc7 39. Rxa7 Rd8 40. Bxf7 Rd4 41. f3 Rh7 42. Bg6) (36. .. Nf4+ 37. Kf3 Kc7)
37. Bd5 Bd4 (37. .. Be7 38. Rb7+ Kd8 39. Rxa7 Nc7 40. Nc3 Bc5 41. Rb7 Bd4
42. Ne4 f5 43. Nd6 {is another way for equality}) 38. Rb7+ Kd8 39. Nd6 Nc7
40. Bf3 R5h7 41. Bg4 Ne6?! {Inaccuracy. Bc5 was best.} (41. .. Bc5 42. Ne4
Bd4 43. Nd6 Bc5) 42. Nxf7+ Rxf7 43. Rxf7 Re8? {a losing move . Nc5 was
best.} (43. .. Nc5 44. Rxa7) 44. Rxf6 Kd7 (44. .. Nc5 45. Rc6) 45. Rh6 Kd6
46. Kf3 Bc3 47. Ke4 a5 48. c5+ Kxc5 49. Bxe6 Rd8 50. Bxe5 {. Black resigns}
1-0
[/pgn]
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Re: Details about Leela Chalange in Jerusalem

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analysis of game 15
Hunan decided to repeat moves so a fast draw.

[pgn][Event "casual classical game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/abstxHfM"]
[Date "2025.11.29"]
[Round "?"]
[White "LeelaRookOdds"]
[Black "Messithegoat2024"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[BlackElo "2400"]
[WhiteElo "2000"]
[TimeControl "5400+30"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/1NBQKBNR w Kkq - 0 1"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "22"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "human"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. e3 d5 3. Bd3 e6 4. f4 c5 5. c3 Bd6 6. Nh3 b6 7. Nd2 a5 8. Bb5+
Bd7 9. Bd3 Bc8 10. Qa4+ Bd7 11. Qd1 Bc8 {The game is a draw.} (11. .. Bc6
{was a better move}) 1/2-1/2
[/pgn]
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Re: Details about Leela Chalange in Jerusalem

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Uri Blass wrote: Thu Dec 11, 2025 9:03 am analysis of game 15
Hunan decided to repeat moves so a fast draw.

[pgn][Event "casual classical game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/abstxHfM"]
[Date "2025.11.29"]
[Round "?"]
[White "LeelaRookOdds"]
[Black "Messithegoat2024"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[BlackElo "2400"]
[WhiteElo "2000"]
[TimeControl "5400+30"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/1NBQKBNR w Kkq - 0 1"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "22"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "human"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. e3 d5 3. Bd3 e6 4. f4 c5 5. c3 Bd6 6. Nh3 b6 7. Nd2 a5 8. Bb5+
Bd7 9. Bd3 Bc8 10. Qa4+ Bd7 11. Qd1 Bc8 {The game is a draw.} (11. .. Bc6
{was a better move}) 1/2-1/2
[/pgn]

Leela needs a contempt factor: she should not have allowed this draw!
Human chess is partly about tactics and strategy, but mostly about memory
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Re: Details about Leela Chalange in Jerusalem

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towforce wrote: Thu Dec 11, 2025 12:36 pm
Uri Blass wrote: Thu Dec 11, 2025 9:03 am analysis of game 15
Hunan decided to repeat moves so a fast draw.

[pgn][Event "casual classical game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/abstxHfM"]
[Date "2025.11.29"]
[Round "?"]
[White "LeelaRookOdds"]
[Black "Messithegoat2024"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[BlackElo "2400"]
[WhiteElo "2000"]
[TimeControl "5400+30"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/1NBQKBNR w Kkq - 0 1"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "22"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "human"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. e3 d5 3. Bd3 e6 4. f4 c5 5. c3 Bd6 6. Nh3 b6 7. Nd2 a5 8. Bb5+
Bd7 9. Bd3 Bc8 10. Qa4+ Bd7 11. Qd1 Bc8 {The game is a draw.} (11. .. Bc6
{was a better move}) 1/2-1/2
[/pgn]

Leela needs a contempt factor: she should not have allowed this draw!
I suspect that there is some bug because in the next game even part of the old engines do not allow repetition and leela also allowed a fast repetition. I will post that game in the next post
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Re: Details about Leela Chalange in Jerusalem

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game 16 again Leela allowed a fast repetition.

[pgn][Event "casual classical game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/ed2Cc3DE"]
[Date "2025.11.29"]
[Round "?"]
[White "LeelaRookOdds"]
[Black "Dana_kochavi"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[BlackElo "2400"]
[WhiteElo "2200"]
[TimeControl "5400+30"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/1NBQKBNR w Kkq - 0 1"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "48"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "human"]

1. c4 Nf6 2. Nc3 g6 3. d4 d6 4. e4 Bg7 5. Be2 O-O 6. g4 c5 7. d5 b5 8. g5
Nfd7 (8. .. Nh5) 9. Nxb5 Ba6 (9. .. a6) 10. Na3 Qb6 11. b3 e6 (11. .. Bc8)
12. h4 exd5 13. exd5 Re8 (13. .. Bc8) 14. Kf1 Nf8 15. Bd2 Bc8 16. h5 Bf5
17. Nf3 Bg4 18. Ng1 Bf5 19. Nf3 Bg4 20. h6 Bh8 21. Rh4 Bf5 22. Rh1 Bg4 23.
Rh4 Bf5 (23. .. Bxf3) 24. Rh1 (24. Nc2) 24. .. Bg4?? {The game is a draw.}
(24. .. a6 25. Nh4 Bc8 26. f4 Ra7 27. Bd3 Rae7 28. f5 Nbd7 29. Nc2 Ne5 30.
Bc3) (24. .. Na6) 1/2-1/2
[/pgn]


last iteration by some engine with no NN suggest different moves than 24.Rh1 that is a repetition but not third repetition because the opponent does not have to repeat and can play 24..Na6

[d]rn2rnkb/p4p1p/1q1p2pP/2pP1bP1/2P4R/NP3N2/P2BBP2/3Q1K2 w - - 7 24

Wasp450-x64-modern:

33/47 27:59 14,255,474k 8,486k -4.36 Nf3-h2 Nb8-d7 Be2-g4 Bf5xg4 Rh4xg4 f7-f6 Nh2-f3 f6-f5 Rg4-g3 Nd7-e5 Nf3-h2 Ne5-f7 f2-f4 Nf8-d7 Nh2-f3 Bh8-d4 Na3-b5 Re8-e4 Qd1-c2 a7-a6 Nb5-c3 Re4-e7 Kf1-g2 Ra8-e8 Kg2-h1 Qb6-c7 Rg3-g2 Bd4-e3 Rg2-e2 Be3xd2 Re2xe7 Re8xe7 Qc2xd2
33/47 23:59 12,176,927k 8,461k -4.30 Bd2-f4 Nb8-a6 Na3-b5 Ra8-d8 Bf4-d2 Na6-c7 Nb5-c3 Qb6-a6 Qd1-c1 Nf8-d7 Bd2-e3 Re8-e7 a2-a3 Rd8-b8 Be2-d1 Nd7-e5 Nf3xe5 Bh8xe5 Kf1-g1 Be5-d4 Be3xd4 c5xd4 Rh4xd4 Re7-e1+ Kg1-g2 Rb8-e8 Rd4-h4 Re8-e5 Qc1-d2 Qa6-a5 Rh4-h1 Re1xh1 Kg2xh1 Qa5xa3
33/47 22:42 11,509,206k 8,449k -4.26 Na3-c2 Nb8-d7 Nc2-e3 Bf5-e4 Nf3-h2 Qb6-d8 Rh4-g4 Bh8-d4 Ne3-c2 Be4xc2 Qd1xc2 Qd8-e7 Be2-d1 f7-f5 Rg4-h4 Nd7-e5 Kf1-g1 Nf8-d7 Kg1-g2 a7-a5 a2-a4 Ra8-a7 Bd2-f4 Ra7-b7 Qc2-d2 Re8-b8 Nh2-f1 Ne5-f7 Nf1-g3 Nd7-e5 Ng3-e2 Rb7-b4 Ne2xd4 c5xd4
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
34/48 38:54 19,960,993k 8,552k -4.39 Na3-b5 a7-a6 Nb5-a3 Nb8-d7 Rh4-h2 Nd7-e5 Nf3-h4 Bf5-d3 Be2xd3 Ne5xd3 Na3-b1 Bh8-e5 Rh2-g2 Nd3-f4 Rg2-g4 Nf4-h5 Nb1-c3 Nf8-d7 Nh4-f3 f7-f5 Rg4-h4 Qb6-d8 Nc3-e2 Qd8-e7 Rh4-h1 Be5-d4 Rh1-h4 Bd4-b2 Ne2-f4 Nh5xf4 Bd2xf4 Bb2-d4 b3-b4 Ra8-c8 Nf3xd4 c5xd4
34/47 32:43 16,715,090k 8,513k -4.44 Na3-c2 Nb8-d7 Nc2-e3 Bf5-e4 Rh4-h3 Qb6-d8 Ne3-g4 Be4-f5 Rh3-g3 Bf5xg4 Rg3xg4 Nd7-e5 Nf3xe5 Bh8xe5 f2-f4 Be5-d4 Kf1-g2 Nf8-d7 Rg4-g3 Ra8-b8 Be2-d3 a7-a5 a2-a4 f7-f5 Bd3-c2 Re8-e7 Rg3-h3 Qd8-b6 Rh3-h4 Rb8-e8 Bc2-d3 Nd7-f8 Rh4-h3 Nf8-d7
34/47 32:01 16,353,153k 8,510k -4.29 Bd2-f4 Nb8-a6 Na3-b5 Ra8-d8 Bf4-d2 Na6-c7 Nb5-c3 Qb6-a6 Qd1-c1 Nf8-d7 Bd2-e3 Re8-e7 a2-a3 Rd8-b8 Be2-d1 Nd7-e5 Nf3xe5 Bh8xe5 Kf1-g2 Be5-h8 a3-a4 Bf5-d3 Kg2-g1 Qa6-b6 Kg1-g2 Re7-e8 Qc1-d2 Bd3-f5 Nc3-e2 Re8-e4 Ne2-f4 Qb6-b4 Qd2xb4 Rb8xb4
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35/49 50:25 25,949,929k 8,578k -4.44 Na3-c2 Nb8-d7 Nc2-e3 Bf5-e4 Rh4-h3 Qb6-d8 Ne3-g4 Be4-f5 Rh3-g3 Bf5xg4 Rg3xg4 Nd7-e5 Nf3xe5 Bh8xe5 Be2-d3 Be5-d4 Rg4-g3 Nf8-d7 f2-f4 f7-f5 Rg3-h3 Re8-e7 Kf1-g2 Qd8-b6 Rh3-h2 Ra8-e8 Rh2-h1 Qb6-a6 a2-a4 Qa6-b6 a4-a5 Qb6-b7 Kg2-g3 Kg8-f7 Qd1-c2
35/49 47:13 24,287,235k 8,572k -4.32 Na3-b5 a7-a6 Nb5-a3 Nb8-d7 Rh4-h2 Nd7-e5 Nf3-h4 Bf5-d3 Be2xd3 Ne5xd3 Na3-b1 Bh8-e5 Rh2-h3 Nd3-f4 Bd2xf4 Be5xf4 Qd1-g4 Bf4-e5 Nh4-f3 Qb6-a5 a2-a4 Qa5-d8 Nb1-d2 Nf8-d7 Kf1-g2 f7-f5 g5xf6/ep Nd7xf6 Qg4-g5 Kg8-f8 Rh3-h4 Ra8-b8 Nf3xe5 Re8xe5 Qg5-f4
35/49 44:41 22,982,243k 8,570k -4.41 Bd2-f4 Nb8-a6 Na3-b5 Ra8-d8 Bf4-d2 Na6-c7 Nb5-c3 Qb6-a6 Qd1-c1 Nf8-d7 Bd2-e3 Re8-e7 Be2-d1 Nd7-e5 Nf3xe5 Re7xe5 Kf1-g2 Re5-e7 Bd1-f3 Rd8-e8 Rh4-h1 Bh8-e5 Qc1-d2 Qa6-a5 Nc3-e2 Qa5xd2 Be3xd2 Be5-b2 Ne2-g3 Bf5-d3 Bd2-e3 f7-f5 g5xf6/ep Bb2xf6 Rh1-d1
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36/53 1:32:45 47,860,993k 8,599k -4.60 Na3-b5 a7-a6 Nb5-a3 Nb8-d7 Rh4-h2 Nd7-e5 Nf3-h4 Bf5-d3 Be2xd3 Ne5xd3 Na3-b1 Bh8-e5 Rh2-h3 Nd3-f4 Bd2xf4 Be5xf4 Qd1-g4 Bf4-e5 Nh4-f3 Qb6-a5 a2-a4 Qa5-d8 Nb1-d2 Nf8-d7 Kf1-g2 f7-f5 Qg4-h4 Be5-c3 Rh3-h1 Bc3xd2 Nf3xd2 Re8-e2 Nd2-f1 Kg8-f7 Nf1-g3 Re2-d2
36/50 1:05:51 33,849,588k 8,566k -4.48 Na3-c2 Nb8-d7 Nc2-e3 Bf5-e4 Rh4-h3 Qb6-d8 Ne3-g4 Be4-f5 Nf3-h4 Bf5xg4 Be2xg4 Nd7-e5 Bg4-e2 f7-f6 g5xf6 Bh8xf6 Nh4-f3 Ne5xf3 Be2xf3 Bf6-d4 Bf3-g4 Qd8-f6 Qd1-f3 Qf6xf3 Rh3xf3 Ra8-b8 Bd2-g5 Rb8-b6 Bg5-d2 Re8-e4 Rf3-f4 Re4xf4 Bd2xf4 Kg8-f7 Kf1-g2 Rb6-a6
36/50 57:18 29,468,303k 8,571k -4.37 Bd2-f4 Nb8-a6 Na3-b5 Ra8-d8 Bf4-d2 Na6-c7 Nb5-c3 Qb6-a6 Qd1-c1 Nf8-d7 Nf3-e1 Rd8-b8 Ne1-f3 Re8-e7 Be2-d1 Nc7-e8 a2-a4 Qa6-b7 Nf3-e1 Nd7-e5 Kf1-g2 Ne5-d3 Ne1xd3 Bf5xd3 Bd2-e3 Bd3-f5 Kg2-g1 Bh8-e5 Nc3-e2 a7-a5 Ne2-g3 Be5xg3 f2xg3 Re7-e5 Be3-d2 Qb7-b6
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37/55 3:05:21 95,794,691k 8,614k -4.67 Rh4-h1 Nb8-a6 Nf3-h4 Bf5-d7 Na3-b1 Re8-e7 Nb1-c3 Na6-b4 Kf1-g1 Ra8-e8 Be2-f1 Qb6-a6 a2-a4 Qa6-b6 Qd1-c1 a7-a6 Rh1-h2 Bh8-d4 Nh4-f3 Bd7-f5 a4-a5 Qb6-b8 Nf3xd4 c5xd4 Nc3-a4 Nb4-d3 Bf1xd3 Bf5xd3 Na4-b6 Re7-e4 f2-f3 Re4-e2 Rh2xe2 Re8xe2 b3-b4 Bd3-f5 Qc1-d1
37/55 2:36:37 80,887,768k 8,607k -4.65 Na3-c2 Nb8-d7 Nc2-e3 Bf5-e4 Rh4-h3 Qb6-d8 Ne3-g4 Be4-f5 Rh3-g3 Bf5xg4 Rg3xg4 Nd7-e5 Nf3xe5 Bh8xe5 Be2-d3 Be5-d4 Rg4-g3 Nf8-d7 f2-f4 f7-f6 f4-f5 Nd7-e5 Bd3-c2 f6xg5 Bd2xg5 Qd8-d7 Kf1-g2 Re8-f8 Qd1-f1 Kg8-h8 f5-f6 Ne5-g4 Rg3-f3 Ng4-f2 Bg5-d2 Nf2-e4 Bc2xe4 Qd7-g4+ Kg2-h1 Qg4xe4
37/53 1:42:34 52,955,390k 8,604k -4.38 Bd2-f4 Nb8-a6 Na3-b5 Ra8-d8 Bf4-d2 Na6-c7 Nb5-c3 Qb6-a6 Qd1-c1 Nf8-d7 Be2-d1 Nd7-e5 Nf3-e1 Qa6-c8 Bd1-c2 Ne5-g4 Qc1-b1 Bf5xc2 Qb1xc2 Bh8-d4 Ne1-f3 f7-f5 Qc2-b2 Bd4-h8 Qb2-c2 Re8-e7 Nc3-e2 Rd8-e8 Ne2-g3 Nc7-a6 Qc2-b1 Bh8-d4 Nf3xd4 c5xd4 Qb1-d3 Qc8-c5 Kf1-g1
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38/55 3:24:47 105,982,106k 8,625k -4.56 Na3-c2 Nb8-d7 Nc2-e3 Bf5-e4 Rh4-h3 Qb6-d8 Ne3-g4 Be4-f5 Rh3-g3 Bf5xg4 Rg3xg4 Nd7-e5 Rg4-g3 Ne5xf3 Be2xf3 Bh8-e5 Rg3-h3 Be5-d4 Bf3-g4 Qd8-e7 Qd1-f3 Nf8-d7 Qf3-f4 Qe7-e5 Qf4-f3 Ra8-d8 Kf1-g2 Qe5-e7 Qf3-f4 Qe7-e4+ Qf4xe4 Re8xe4 Bg4-f3 Re4-e7 Bd2-a5 Rd8-c8 Ba5-d2 Nd7-e5 Bf3-e2
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Re: Details about Leela Chalange in Jerusalem

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Larry Kaufman explained about the last draw:

"remember it is using a mixed knight odds and rook odds net, so it may still take a draw if down between knight and rook"

Note that it is not iclear if it is llogical decision to allow repetition when the advantage is between a knight and a rook because otherwise it is possible that Leela is going to play some worse move to avoid repetition against a strong player when the strong player even did not mean to make a repetition and the weak move may help the strong player to win.
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Re: Details about Leela Chalange in Jerusalem

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Tיhe explanation of larry is simply that the net fror the rookOdds bot and the knight odd bots is the same in the last year and improvement in the LeelaRookOdds and LeelaKnightOdds were only in the search
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Re: Details about Leela Chalange in Jerusalem

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game 17

[pgn][Event "casual classical game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/cMMxF0qB"]
[Date "2025.11.29"]
[Round "?"]
[White "LeelaRookOdds"]
[Black "BishopBoss08"]
[Result "1-0"]
[BlackElo "2000"]
[WhiteElo "2400"]
[TimeControl "5400+30"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/1NBQKBNR w Kkq - 0 1"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "81"]
[WhiteType "human"]
[BlackType "human"]

1. c4 e6 2. d3 d5 3. Qc2 Nf6 4. Nf3 Nc6 5. a3 a5 6. d4 Be7 7. Nc3 dxc4 8.
e3 Bd6 9. Bxc4 e5 10. d5 Ne7 11. h3 c6 12. dxc6 bxc6 13. e4 Ba6 14. Bxa6
Rxa6 15. O-O Ra8 16. Bg5 Ng6 17. Bxf6 gxf6 18. Nd1 O-O 19. Ne3 Re8 20. Rd1
Qc7 21. Nh2 Rad8? (21. .. h5 {is better to preven tthe next move of white})
22. Nhg4 Re6? (22. .. Kh8 {it is better to accept the loss of the pawn f6
and now it is hard to find moves for black}) 23. Nh6+ Kg7? {losing a tempo
andf it is better togo directly to f8 and not to go to that quare next
move.} (23. .. Kf8) 24. Nef5+ Kf8 {only winning move} (24. .. Kh8? 25. Rd3
{black almost cannot move and can get at most a draw with correct play} Nf4
(25. .. Be7? 26. Nxf7+) (25. .. Rf8 26. Qd2 Bc5 27. Rd7) 26. Rd2 Rf8 27.
Qd1) 25. Rf1 Qb6 26. h4 Bc5 27. Kh2 Red6? (27. .. Qb5 {was best} 28. h5 Nf4
29. Rd1 Ree8 (29. .. Rxd1 30. Qxd1 Qd3 31. Qg4 Ng6) 30. b4 axb4 31. Rb1
Ba7) 28. Nxd6 Rxd6 29. b4 axb4 30. axb4 Bxb4 31. Qb3 Nh8? {obvious
positional mistake. Qb7 was best.} (31. .. Qb7) 32. h5 Bc5?! {Inaccuracy.
Ba5 was best.} (32. .. Ba5) 33. Qh3 Qc7? {Mistake. Ng6 was best.} (33. ..
Ng6 34. Rb1 Qc7 35. Ra1 Rd8 36. Rc1 Bd4 37. hxg6 hxg6) 34. Rc1 Bb6 35. Nf5
Rd8? {the losing move Kg8 was best.} (35. .. Kg8) 36. Qh4 Rd6 37. Ra1 Qd8
38. Nxd6 (38. Ra6 {was clearly winning}) 38. .. Qxd6 39. Ra8+ Bd8 40. Qg4
c5 (40. .. Qc7 {with a clear advantage for white not sure if winning}) 41.
Qc8 {. Black resigns} 1-0
[/pgn]
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Re: Details about Leela Chalange in Jerusalem

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game 18:

[pgn][Event "casual classical game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/BFIEQkWa"]
[Date "2025.11.29"]
[Round "?"]
[White "LeelaRookOdds"]
[Black "IgorBugMate"]
[Result "1-0"]
[BlackElo "2000"]
[WhiteElo "2000"]
[TimeControl "5400+30"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/1NBQKBNR w Kkq - 0 1"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "65"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]

1. f4?? {(0.15 ? -5.42) Blunder. e4 was best.} (1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4
cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nc6 5. Nc3 g6) 1. .. d5 2. Nf3 e6 3. d3 f5 4. e3 Nf6 5. h3 c5
6. g4 fxg4 7. hxg4 Nxg4 8. Ng5 Nf6? {it is better to be more active} (8. ..
h5) (8. .. e5 9. Nxh7? exf4 10. Nf6+? Qxf6 11. Rxh8 fxe3) 9. Qe2 Nc6 10. e4
dxe4 11. dxe4 Nd4 (11. .. Bd7) 12. Qg2 Bd7 13. c3 Qa5 14. Nd2 Nc2+ 15. Kf2
c4?! {Inaccuracy. O-O-O was best.} (15. .. O-O-O {a sacrifice but it seems
black get a strong attack} 16. Nf7 c4 (16. .. Qc7)) 16. Nxc4 Qc5+ 17. Kg3
b5 18. Ne5 Ne3 19. Qf3 Nxf1+ 20. Rxf1 Be7 21. Nxd7 Nxd7 22. Nxe6 Qc6 23. f5
Bf6 (23. .. Ne5 24. Qe2 Kf7) 24. Bf4 Rc8 (24. .. Ne5) 25. Rd1 Ne5 (25. ..
Nc5) 26. Bxe5 (26. Qe2 {is more complex alternative} Qc4) 26. .. Bxe5+
27. Kg2 Ke7?? {Rf8 was winning.} (27. .. Rf8 28. Qg4 (28. Rd5 Qxe6 29. fxe6
Rxf3 30. Kxf3 Bf6 31. Rxb5 Rc6 32. e5 Bd8) 28. .. Rf7 29. Rd5 Bf6) 28. Rd5
Bf6 29. e5 Rhd8?? {Blunder. Rhe8 was enough for a draw with correct play by both sides. now white is
winning.} (29. .. Rhe8 30. exf6+ Kxf6 31. Qe4 Kf7 32. Qe5 Rxe6 33. fxe6+
Qxe6 34. Rxb5 Qxe5 35. Rxe5) 30. exf6+ gxf6 31. Nxd8 Rxd8 32. Re5+ Kd7 33.
Re7+ {. Black resigns} 1-0
[/pgn]
Uri Blass
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Re: Details about Leela Chalange in Jerusalem

Post by Uri Blass »

game 19
I think Leela gave the human a draw too fast and there was no simple ddrawfor the human in case of moves like 46. Bd5

[pgn][Event "casual classical game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/SxftFixP"]
[Date "2025.11.29"]
[Round "?"]
[White "LeelaRookOdds"]
[Black "shmulikhagadol"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[BlackElo "2400"]
[WhiteElo "2400"]
[TimeControl "5400+30"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/1NBQKBNR w Kkq - 0 1"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "100"]
[WhiteType "human"]
[BlackType "human"]

1. e4 d6 2. d4 e5 3. d5 Nf6 4. Nc3 c6 5. h3 Be7 6. g4 h6 7. Nge2 Na6 8. Ng3
cxd5 9. exd5 Bd7 10. Bd2 Qb6 11. b3 Rc8 12. a3 Rxc3 13. Bxc3 Qc5 14. Bd2
Qxd5 (14. .. Nxd5 15. b4 (15. Bg2 Nf4 16. Bxb7 Bc6 17. Bxc6+ Qxc6) 15. ..
Qd4 16. Bg2 Qc4) 15. c4 Qc6 16. Be2 Nc5 17. O-O h5 18. g5 Bxh3 19. Bf3 e4
20. Bh1 Ng4 21. Re1 O-O (21. .. d5 22. cxd5 Qd6 23. Bxe4 (23. b4? Nxf2) 23.
.. Nxe4 24. Rxe4 Qxd5) (21. .. Nxf2 22. Kxf2 Nd3+ 23. Kg1 Bg4 24. Qb1 Nxe1
25. Qxe1 Qb6+ 26. Qf2) 22. Nxe4 Nxe4 23. Rxe4 Qc5 (23. .. d5 24. cxd5 Qc7
25. Bf4 Bd6) 24. Qf3 Bxg5 25. Bb4 Qb6 26. Qg3 h4 27. Qf3 Nf6 28. Qxh3 Nxe4?
(28. .. a5 29. Bc3 (29. Be1 Nxe4 30. Bxe4 Re8 31. Qd3 d5 32. Qxd5 Qxb3) 29.
.. Nxe4 30. Bxe4 Qxb3) 29. Bxe4 Qd4 30. Bxb7 Qf6? (30. .. a5 31. Bc3 (31.
Bxa5 31. .. Qa7 32. Qf5 Qxb7 33. Qxg5 Qxb3) (31. Be1 Qd1) 31. .. Qd1+ 32.
Kg2 Qxb3) 31. Bc6 Qg6 32. Kf1 Be7 33. Qf3 Kh8 (33. .. Bg5) 34. Bd5 f5 35.
Qe3 (35. Bd2) 35. .. Bg5 36. Qh3 Be7 37. Qe3 Bg5 38. Qh3 Be7?? {Blunder.
Qh6 was best.} 39. Qd3?? {Blunder. Qe3 was best.} (39. Qe3) 39. .. Qg5 40.
Bd2 f4?! {Inaccuracy. Qh5 was best.} (40. .. Qh5 41. Bf3 Qg6) 41. Qf3 g6
42. b4 Qf5 {Black offers draw} 43. Be4 Qe6 44. Bd5 Qf5 45. Be4 Qe6 46. Kg2?
{Mistake. Bd5 was best.} (46. Bd5 Qd7 47. Qe4 Kg7 48. Be6 d5 49. cxd5 Qc7)
46. .. Kg7 47. Bd5 Qf5 48. Be4 Qe6 49. Bd5 Qf5 50. Be4 Qe6?? {The game is a
draw.} (50. .. Qg5+ 51. Kh1) 1/2-1/2
[/pgn]